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This does not appear to be a notable sport. It was prodded, but an IP editor removed the prod tag as well as a notability tag (the latter of which I had added). Aleta ^Sing 18:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. —Aleta ^Sing 18:39, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks you, I appreciate your comments. Maybe when the sport has grown some more and it is easier to find references, I will re-post it. --Polishphysicist (talk) 19:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Delete It seriously sounds like a fun way to lose teeth, but just isn't notable at this time, via the WP:notability policy. PHARMBOY (TALK) 00:24, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Keep. As I understand it, rasketball is a pretty popular regional sport. It's not exactly ubiquitous yet, but it is a pretty big deal in Rochester especially, the rest of New York and into Pennsylvania, Ohio, and elsewhere.

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+===[[Rasketball]]===
-{{future film|Punisher: War Zone}}
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-{{for|the comic book series|The Punisher War Zone}}
-{{Infobox Film
-| name           = Punisher: War Zone
-| image          = Punisherwarzoneteaser.jpg
-| caption        = Theatrical poster
-| director       = [[Lexi Alexander]]<ref name="Pun2Det">[http://movies.ign.com/articles/811/811279p1.html Punisher 2 Details]</ref>
-| producer       = [[Avi Arad]]<br>[[Gale Anne Hurd]]
-| writer         = [[Nick Santora]]<ref name="Pun2Det" /><br>Lexi Alexander<br>''(uncredited)''<br>Matt Holloway<br>Arthur Marcum
-| starring       = [[Ray Stevenson (actor)|Ray Stevenson]]<br>[[Dominic West]]<br>[[Julie Benz]]<br>[[Wayne Knight]]<br>[[Dash Mihok]]<br>[[Colin Salmon]]<br>[[Doug Hutchison]]<br>[[T. J. Storm]]<br>[[Mark Camacho]]<br>{{nowrap|[[Keram Malicki-Sánchez]]}}
-| music          = Michael Wandmacher
-| cinematography = Steve Gainer
-| editing        = William Yeh<br>Vincent Tabaillon
-| distributor    = {{nowrap|[[Lionsgate Entertainment]]}}
-| released       = December 5, 2008<ref name="December release"/>
-| runtime        = 107 min.<ref>[http://lionsgatepublicity.com/epk/punisherwarzone/ LG Publicity - Punisher: War Zone]</ref>
-| country        = [[United States]]
-| language       = [[English language|English]]
-| budget         = $20,500,000 [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450314/business]
-| website        = http://www.punisherwarzonemovie.com/
-| amg_id         = 1:410445
-| imdb_id        = 0450314
-}}
+:{{la|Rasketball}} (<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Rasketball|wpReason={{urlencode: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rasketball]]}}&action=delete}} delete]</span>) – <includeonly>([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rasketball|View AfD]])</includeonly><noinclude>([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2008 October 12#{{anchorencode:Rasketball}}|View log]])</noinclude>
-'''''Punisher: War Zone'''''<ref> {{cite news | last=diva |url=http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=6180 | title=Punisher 2 Working Title and Start Date | publisher = Superherohype.com | date =[[2007-08-09]] | accessdate=2007-08-11 }}</ref> is an upcoming [[2008 in film|2008]] [[action film]] based on the [[fictional character|fictional]] [[Marvel Comics]] [[vigilante]] and [[antihero]] the [[Punisher]]. The film is a reboot and has no connections to 2004's ''[[The Punisher (2004 film)|The Punisher]]''. It will be released in [[North America]] by [[Lionsgate Entertainment]] and will be released in other parts of the world by [[Columbia Pictures]]. ''Punisher: War Zone'' is rated R for pervasive strong brutal violence, language and some drug use.
+This does not appear to be a notable sport. It was prodded, but an IP editor removed the prod tag as well as a notability tag (the latter of which I had added). [[User:Aleta|<b><font color="#990066">'''Aleta'''</font></b>]] [[User_Talk:Aleta|<font color="#0095B6"><sup><small>'''Sing'''</small></sup></font>]] 18:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
+*<small>'''Note''':  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Sports|list of Sports-related deletion discussions]].  </small><small>—[[User:Aleta|<b><font color="#990066">'''Aleta'''</font></b>]] [[User_Talk:Aleta|<font color="#0095B6"><sup><small>'''Sing'''</small></sup></font>]] 18:39, 12 October 2008 (UTC)</small>
+Thanks you, I appreciate your comments.  Maybe when the sport has grown some more and it is easier to find references, I will re-post it. --[[User:Polishphysicist|Polishphysicist]] ([[User talk:Polishphysicist|talk]]) 19:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
-==Synopsis==
+*'''Delete''' It seriously sounds like a fun way to lose teeth, but just isn't notable at this time, via the [[WP:notability]] policy.  [[User:Pharmboy|P<small><strong>HARMBOY</strong></small>]] ([[User talk:Pharmboy|<small><strong>TALK</strong></small>]]) 00:24, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
-Waging his one-man war on the world of [[organized crime]], ruthless vigilante anti-hero [[Punisher|Frank Castle]] sets his sights on overeager mob boss [[Jigsaw (Marvel Comics)|Billy Russoti]]. After Russoti is left horribly disfigured by Castle, he sets out for vengeance under his new alias: Jigsaw. With the "Punisher Task Force" hot on his trail and the FBI unable to take Jigsaw in, Frank must stand up to the formidable army that Jigsaw has recruited before more of his evil deeds go unpunished.<ref>[http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=6547 The Punisher: War Zone Synopsis - Superhero Hype!<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>
+*'''Keep'''. As I understand it, rasketball is a pretty popular regional sport. It's not exactly ubiquitous yet, but it is a pretty big deal in Rochester especially, the rest of New York and into Pennsylvania, Ohio, and elsewhere.
-==Cast==
+:10, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
-{| class="wikitable"
-|-
-! Actor
-! Character
-|-
-| [[Ray Stevenson (actor)|Ray Stevenson]]
-| [[Punisher|Frank Castle / The Punisher]]
-|-
-| [[Dominic West]]
-| [[Jigsaw (Marvel Comics)|Billy Russoti / Jigsaw]]<ref name="TrioPaged">[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ib429a97580f60ae29d95ad64fd083514 Trio paged for ‘Punisher’ roles]</ref>
-|-
-| [[Wayne Knight]]
-| [[Microchip (comics)|Linus Lieberman / Microchip]]<ref name="TrioPaged" />
-|-
-| [[Dash Mihok]]
-| Detective Martin Soap
-|-
-| [[Colin Salmon]]
-| Agent Paul Budiansky<ref>[http://www.lexialexander.com/home.html Lexi Alexander Home]</ref>
-|-
-| [[Doug Hutchison]]
-| Looney Bin Jim<ref>[http://www.lexialexander.com/home.html Lexi Alexander Home]</ref><ref name="NewCast">{{cite news | url=http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6315 | title=New Punisher Cast Members Announced | publisher=[[SuperHeroHype.com]] | date=[[2007-09-18]] | accessdate=2007-09-18 }}</ref>
-|-
-| [[T. J. Storm]]
-| Maginty<ref>[http://www.superherohype.com/news/punishernews.php?id=6348 T.J. Storm is Maginty in Punisher - Superhero Hype!]</ref>
-|-
-| [[Julie Benz]]
-| Angela Donatelli<ref>[http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/10422 BD Horror News - Full Cast For Lonsgate's 'Punisher: War Zone']</ref>
-|-
-| [[Keram Malicki-Sánchez]]
-| Ink<ref>[http://www.lexialexander.com/ Lexi Alexander Home]</ref>
-|-
-| [[Mark Camacho]]
-| Pittsy<ref>[http://www.lexialexander.com/ Lexi Alexander Home]</ref>
-|-
-| [[David Vadim]]
-| Cristu Bulat<ref>[http://actingreacting.com/filmography Acting Reacting Filmography]</ref>
-|}
-==Development==
-===2004===
-In February 2004, two months prior to ''[[The Punisher (2004 film)|The Punisher's]]'' theatrical debut, [[Lions Gate Entertainment]] announced the studio's intent to produce a sequel. [[Avi Arad]], chairman and CEO of [[Marvel Studios]], expressed his interest in developing the franchise, saying that the second film would "become the fifth Marvel property to become a sequel."<ref>{{cite news | first=Clint | last=Morris | url=http://www.moviehole.net/news/3292.html | title=Lions Gate starting on The Punisher 2 | publisher=Moviehole.net | date=[[2004-02-27]] | accessdate=2006-08-31 }}</ref>  In March 2004, the director of the first film, [[Jonathan Hensleigh]], said that he was interested in working with [[Thomas Jane]] again for ''The Punisher 2''.<ref>{{cite news | first=Ken | last=P. | url=http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/496/496784p5.html | title=An Interview with Jonathan Hensleigh | publisher=[[IGN]] | date=[[2004-03-05]] | accessdate=2006-08-31 }}</ref> In April 2004, Jane said that the villain for ''The Punisher 2'' would be [[Jigsaw (Marvel Comics)|Jigsaw]].<ref>{{cite news | first=William | last=Keck | url=http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2004-04-13-punisher-premiere_x.htm | title=Rebecca is quiet at 'Punisher' premiere | publisher=[[USA Today]] | date=[[2004-04-13]] | accessdate=2006-09-01 }}</ref> In November 2004, Jane said that the studio was interested in making a sequel based on successful DVD sales of ''The Punisher'' and was developing the preliminary budget for the follow-up.<ref>{{cite news | first=Jonah | last=Weiland | url=http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=4272 | title=Actor Thomas Jane Talks "Bad Planet" and Other Comics Work | publisher=[[Comic Book Resources]] | date=[[2004-11-22]] | accessdate=2006-08-31 }}</ref>
-===2005===
-In March 2005, [[Marvel Studios]] announced a 2006 theatrical release date for ''The Punisher 2''.<ref>{{cite news | url=http://tv.ign.com/articles/594/594490p1.html | title=Marvel Movie Update | publisher=[[IGN]] | date=[[2005-03-08]] | accessdate=2006-08-31 }}</ref> In April 2005, Lions Gate Entertainment's CEO Jon Feltheimer confirmed at LGF's 2005 fiscal 3Q analyst call that the studio had completed its deal to develop ''The Punisher 2''.<ref>{{cite web | url=http://forums.lionsgate.com/showthread.php?t=803 | title=LGF's 2005 Fiscal 3Q Analyst Call | publisher=Lionsgate Forums | date=[[2005-04-05]] | accessdate=2006-08-31 }}</ref> Arad indicated the sequel would be among the "handful of Marvel films" to carry the R rating.<ref>{{cite news | url=http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/articles/2074.asp | title=Arad Reveals New Marvel Movies | publisher=ComicBookMovie.com | date=[[2005-06-21]] | accessdate=2006-09-01 }}</ref> Prior to July 2005, Avi Arad revealed that the script was being rewritten and that the sequel would start filming within the year.<ref>{{cite news | first=Clint | last=Morris | url=http://www.moviehole.net/news/5876.html | title=Arad on everything comic-to-film | publisher=Moviehole.net | date=[[2005-07-01]] | accessdate=2006-08-31 }}</ref> By July 2005, Jane
-had put on an additional 12 pounds of muscle, and was hoping for filming to start in late-2006.<ref>{{cite news | url=http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue430/news.html | title=Jane Beefs Up For ''Punisher 2'' | publisher=[[Sci Fi Wire]] | date=[[2005-07-18]] | accessdate=2006-08-31 }}</ref>
-===2006===
-In March 2006, ''The Punisher 2'' was announced to be produced in Louisiana,<ref>{{cite news | url=http://www.superherohype.com/news/punishernews.php?id=3957 | title=''The Punisher 2'' to Film in Louisiana | publisher=[[Superhero Hype!]] | date=[[2006-03-11]] | accessdate=2006-08-31 }}</ref>  being listed in the domestic charter under Louisiana's Secretary of State.<ref>{{cite web | url=http://www.sec.state.la.us/public/corp_newsletter/NewCorp_20060106.txt | title=New Domestic Filings: 12/24/05 thru 12/30/05 | publisher=Louisiana Secretary of State | date=[[2005-12-23]] | accessdate=2006-08-31 }}</ref>  In August 2006, Marvel Entertainment revealed a new film slate that included ''The Punisher 2'' on its partial list with production still to be determined.<ref>{{cite news | url=http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20060807005366&newsLang=en | title= Marvel Reports Q2 2006 Earnings Per Share of $0.19; Raises 2006 EPS Guidance Range to $0.50 - $0.60, Reflecting Tax Benefit and Impact of Share Repurchases | publisher=[[Business Wire]] | date=[[2006-08-07]] | accessdate=2006-08-31 }}</ref> Thomas Jane said that the writer was halfway through a draft and that he believed filming would begin by February 2007. Jane confirmed that the villain [[Jigsaw (Marvel Comics)|Jigsaw]], first announced in April 2004, would be in the film. Jane also said that director Jonathan Hensleigh would not be returning to direct the sequel.<ref>{{cite news | first=Kiel | last=Phegley |  url=http://www.wizarduniverse.com/movies/other/001346919.cfm | title=Up Close with Thomas Jane | publisher=[[Wizard Entertainment]] | date=[[2006-08-17]] | accessdate=2006-08-31 }}</ref>  In addition, Lions Gate Entertainment, amidst the studios returning to New Orleans following [[Hurricane Katrina]], announced that ''The Punisher 2'' would begin filming within the year.<ref>{{cite news | first=John | last=Horn | url=http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/preview/articles/0818neworleans0818.html | title=Take 2 - Filmmakers trickle back to Katrina-devastated New Orleans | publisher=[[The Arizona Republic]] | date=[[2006-08-18]] | accessdate=2006-08-31 }}</ref>  In October 2006, Thomas Jane said the script was due in a couple of weeks, and that it would be "darker, bloodier and more unfriendly than the first one."<ref>{{cite news | first=Shawn | last=Adler | coauthors=Carroll, Larry | url=http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1542923/10112006/story.jhtml | title=Movie File: 'Harry Potter,' Brad Pitt, Jason Schwartzman & More | publisher=[[MTV]] | date=[[2006-10-12]] | accessdate=2006-10-12 }}</ref>  In December 2006, the screenplay was being rewritten by screenwriter [[Stuart Beattie]].<ref>{{cite news | url=http://superherohype.com/news/punishernews.php?id=5018 | title= New Writer Boards ''The Punisher 2'' | publisher=[[Superhero Hype!]] | date=[[2006-12-18]] | accessdate=2006-12-18 }}</ref>
-===2007===
-It was announced that [[Kurt Sutter]], a writer for ''[[The Shield]]'', was involved with the script for ''The Punisher 2'', but what exactly he was doing was unrevealed.<ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.superherohype.com/news/punishernews.php?id=5457 |title=Kurt Sutter Involved with ''Punisher 2''? |publisher=SuperHeroHype.com |date=[[2006-12-18]] |accessdate=2007-04-29 }}</ref> In an interview with Sutter, he said that he had an enjoyable time writing the script for the sequel and that it was going to be very true to the character.<ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5485 |title= Kurt Sutter Talks ''The Punisher 2'' |publisher=SuperHeroHype.com |date=[[2006-12-18]] |accessdate=2007-04-29 }}</ref> In a separate interview Thomas Jane revealed that a new script had been turned in and everyone was hoping it would work out, as the lack of a good script had been holding up production. He further stated that if everything goes as planned then filming should begin in June or July,<ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5516 |title=Thomas Jane on ''The Punisher 2'' |publisher=SuperHeroHype.com |date=[[2006-12-18]] |accessdate=2007-04-29}}</ref> but shortly afterward, in a letter to ''[[Ain't It Cool News]]'' Jane wrote that he had pulled out of the movie, stating: {{cquote|What I won't do is spend months of my life sweating over a movie that I just don't believe in. I've always loved the Marvel guys, and wish them well. Meanwhile, I'll continue to search for a film that one day might stand with all those films that the fans have asked me to watch.<ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5685 |title=Thomas Jane Pull out of Punisher 2 |publisher=SuperHeroHype.com |date=[[2007-05-15]]}}</ref> <ref> {{cite news |url=http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32673|title=AICN Exclusive: Thomas Jane dropping out of PUNISHER 2?!? |publisher=aintitcool.com |date=Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 6:25pm}}</ref>}}
-In May 2007, director [[John Dahl]] was in talks to direct the movie, but decided to not helm the film, citing a bad script and lack of budget as reasons for passing.<ref>[http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp/aid/4608/tcid/1 Collider.com - Movie, DVD, Music, Video Game, News, Reviews, Interviews]</ref> In June it was announced that [[Lexi Alexander]] would then take over the role as director as a result.<ref>{{cite news | author=Ryan McLelland |title=Punisher 2 Lands A Director |publisher=LatinoReview.com |date=[[2006-06-12]] |url=http://www.latinoreview.com/news.php?id=2165 |accessdate=2007-09-12}}</ref> On July 21, it was announced that actor [[Ray Stevenson (actor)|Ray Stevenson]] would play the Punisher in the sequel to the 2004 film.<ref>[http://latinoreview.com/news.php?id=2452 Exclusive Scoop: We Know Who The New Punisher Is! - Movie News - Latest Movie Reviews and trailers]</ref> Filming was slated to begin in October 2007 in Montreal.<ref>[http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6118 Lionsgate Release Confirms Punisher 2 Details - Superhero Hype!]</ref> In August, a working title for the film, ''The Punisher: Welcome Back Frank'' was announced. On August 28, Lionsgate announced that the new working name for ''The Punisher 2'' would be ''Punisher: War Zone''.<ref>{{cite news | url=http://www.justpressplay.net/movies/punisher-war-zone/news/official-sequel-title-now-punisher-war-zone.html |title=Official Sequel Title Now 'Punisher: War Zone' |publisher=JustPressPlay.net |date=[[2007-08-28]] |accessdate=2007-08-28}}</ref> [[Paddy Considine]] was considered for the role of [[Jigsaw (Marvel Comics)|Jigsaw]] in the film but the offer was retracted.<ref>[http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6302 Superhero Hype!]</ref> In mid-September, the director announced cast members joining Stevenson with [[Dash Mihok]] as Detective Martin Soap, [[Colin Salmon]] as Agent Paul Budiansky and [[Doug Hutchison]] as Loony Bin Jim.<ref name="NewCast" /> It was announced on September 25 via ''[[The Hollywood Reporter]]'', that [[Dominic West]] will star as the main antagonist Jigsaw and [[Wayne Knight]] will play the Punisher's armorer [[Microchip (comics)|Microchip]]. Filming occurred from October 22 until December 14 in Montreal.<ref>[http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=29543 'Punisher: War Zone' Shooting Dates and Crew Details - Story @ Comics2Film.com]</ref> Principal photography for ''Punisher: War Zone'' was completed on December 27.<ref>[http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6638 Lexi Alexander on Shooting Punisher - Superhero Hype!]</ref>
-===2008===
-On February 14, 2008 writer Kurt Sutter officially removed his name from credit arbitration, stating: {{cquote|I took my name off the movie for a few reasons. The obvious reason is because I didn't deserve credit. There was very little of my draft that stayed in the shooting script. The one big one they kept, was the set piece where we see how Russo becomes Jigsaw. It's pretty brutal. Glad they kept that.<ref>[http://sutterink.blogspot.com/2008/02/punisher-warzone-update.html Punisher: War Zone Update]</ref>}} The film was set for September 12, 2008 release, but was pushed back 3 months to December 5, 2008.<ref name="December release">[http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=7025 Punisher Will Enter War Zone 3 Months Later]</ref> A teaser trailer was released on June 12, 2008. On July 25, 2008 Harry Knowles of [[Ain't It Cool News]] wrote an article claiming that Lexi Alexander had been removed as the film's director. <ref>[http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37642]</ref>. A second trailer was revealed to the public at the San Diego ComicCon on the same day. Lexi Alexander did not make an appearance at the convention, which has caused speculation from the fans who attended the film's panel to question whether or not her name has been taken off the film. On August 15, website Latino Review reported that Lionsgate would be editing the film to receive a PG-13 rating. The director of photography, Steve Gainer, later claimed that the movie will be "R" and that Lexi is still on-board the project.<ref>[http://rawstudios.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=55&st=2060&%20amp;gopid=12162&#entry12162]</ref> On October 3, IGN confirmed that Lexi Alexander was not fired from the movie, based on an official statement they received from Lionsgate.<ref>http://movies.ign.com/articles/915/915954p1.html</ref>
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-*[http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/article/?id=16200&sectionId=88 Thomas Jane Interview]
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