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:{{la|Beecroft Primary School}} (<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Beecroft Primary School|wpReason={{urlencode: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beecroft Primary School (2nd nomination)]]}}&action=delete}} delete]</span>) – <includeonly>([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beecroft Primary School (2nd nomination)|View AfD]])</includeonly><noinclude>([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2008 October 12#{{anchorencode:Beecroft Primary School}}|View log]])</noinclude> |
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Fails [[WP:ORG]] and [[WP:SCHOOLS]] "For elementary and middle schools, reliable secondary sources are usually too limited for notability. An exception is made for schools having a specific, notable distinction or status" [[User:Michellecrisp|Michellecrisp]] ([[User talk:Michellecrisp|talk]]) 08:54, 12 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:'''Delete''' no notability asserted at all. --[[User:Oscarthecat|Oscarthecat]] ([[User talk:Oscarthecat|talk]]) 08:58, 12 October 2008 (UTC) |
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*<small>'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Australia|list of Australia-related deletion discussions]]. </small><small>—[[User:Grahamec|Grahame]] ([[User talk:Grahamec|talk]]) 12:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)</small> |
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*<small>'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Schools|list of Schools-related deletion discussions]]. </small> <small>-- [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 13:39, 12 October 2008 (UTC)</small> |
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:'''delete''' per nom. [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 13:47, 12 October 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' The reason this survived deletion the first time around was that there had been a proposal, at that time, to find that all schools that were "more than 50 years old" should be considered inherently notable. I'm thankful that such a silly proposal never made its way into becoming a rule, since there is nothing particularly special about a school having been in existence prior to 1958. Granted, this is a school that can trace its origins back to 1897; however, it appears to be the elementary school for Beecroft, a suburb of Sydney, Australia, serving the students up to sixth grade in its district. The reason that I say "delete" is that this is no different than most Wikipedia articles about elementary schools. Sometimes these are class projects as part of a lesson about research, and they stay up for about a week until the lesson is over. More often, such articles are a substitute for a school newspaper-- congratulations to Mrs. Marshall's fourth grade class on their high test scores, our football team has done well this year, our students strive to do their very best, etc. -- or for a webpage (in this case, the webpage is at [http://www.beecroft-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/bps_map.pdf]). Wikipedia is not the news, and it especially is not school news. I'm of the opinion that ''every'' school is special, in the same sense that every mom or dad is special; but only those that demonstrate some notability outside of the local area should have their own article. [[User:Mandsford|Mandsford]] ([[User talk:Mandsford|talk]]) 13:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge/Redirect''' to [[Beecroft,_New_South_Wales#Schools]], the locality where the school is already listed. --[[User:Jh12|Jh12]] ([[User talk:Jh12|talk]]) 14:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge''' to [[Beecroft, New South Wales#Schools]], where reliably sourced content can be expanded until a separate article is justified. [[User:DoubleBlue|<font color="darkblue">'''Double'''</font><font color="blue">Blue</font>]] ([[User talk:DoubleBlue|Talk)]] 15:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge/redirect''' to [[Beecroft, New South Wales#Schools]], per normal practice. No need to delete a useful redirect. [[User:TerriersFan|TerriersFan]] ([[User talk:TerriersFan|talk]]) 15:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''Redirect''' as suggested above, unless further content is added concerning notable alumni, state/national achievements etc. [[User:WWGB|WWGB]] ([[User talk:WWGB|talk]]) 00:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' In my opinion, I'm not sure if redirect is even necessary, as don't think people will search '''Beecroft Primary School'''. All it deserves is a one line mention in [[Beecroft, New South Wales]]. [[User:Michellecrisp|Michellecrisp]] ([[User talk:Michellecrisp|talk]]) 02:44, 13 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:*For me, unless there are multiple '''Beecroft Primary School'''s in Australia, I don't see the need to delete the page when people looking for Beecroft Primary School can simply be redirected to content that already exists on Wikipedia. Although the amount of traffic might be low, at least one person went as far as creating a separate article on the school. Merging any relevant content (e.g. Beecroft Primary School was established in 1897 and provides Kindergarten to Year 6 education to children from the Beecroft and Cheltenham area of North Western Sydney.) and converting to a redirect seems like the most practical solution. --[[User:Jh12|Jh12]] ([[User talk:Jh12|talk]]) 04:40, 13 October 2008 (UTC) |
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::*Indeed, At least one person (and likely more) looked for the article and then created one. If there is a redirect to where the content lays, then we are doing a service, preserving [[GFDL]] author history, and avoiding another article being mistakenly created because someone thinks none exists. Redirects are also cheap. [[User:DoubleBlue|<font color="darkblue">'''Double'''</font><font color="blue">Blue</font>]] ([[User talk:DoubleBlue|Talk)]] 04:49, 13 October 2008 (UTC) |
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The '''Prodila River''' is a [[tributary]] of the [[Jiu River]] in [[Romania]]. |
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*'''Comment''' This is another matter of personal opinion, but as a side note I wanted to point out that I thought the nominator's removal of sourced information in one case: (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Beecroft_Primary_School&diff=224059493&oldid=224058984 diff]) was maybe going a little extreme on the concept of [[Wikipedia:UNDUE#Undue_weight]]. Maybe I'm mis-reading, but to me an incident appearing in the NSW Supreme Court seems like it would merit a mention (at least a line or two); and [[Wikipedia:Recentism]] is more of an essay, not a guideline. --[[User:Jh12|Jh12]] ([[User talk:Jh12|talk]]) 04:54, 13 October 2008 (UTC) |
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: Consider [[WP:NOT#NEWS]] , that news event in itself doesn't make the school notable. [[User:Michellecrisp|Michellecrisp]] ([[User talk:Michellecrisp|talk]]) 05:00, 13 October 2008 (UTC) |
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::No it doesn't, which is why I do not support a '''Keep'''. I do think, however, that this is the kind of information that should remain in a limited fashion, even if it were on the article of a school that was otherwise notable. --[[User:Jh12|Jh12]] ([[User talk:Jh12|talk]]) 05:06, 13 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Well I think the whole incident is long forgotten, it was only reported 3 times in a [http://news.google.com.au/archivesearch?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=au&q=%22Rajaratnam+Premachandran%22&ie=UTF-8 Google news search] Generally in NSW, defamation cases are held in the Supreme court by judges listed to hear defamation cases. [[User:Michellecrisp|Michellecrisp]] ([[User talk:Michellecrisp|talk]]) 05:12, 13 October 2008 (UTC) |
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* Administraţia Naţională Apelor Române - Cadastrul Apelor - Bucureşti |
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* Institutul de Meteorologie şi Hidrologie - Rîurile României - Bucureşti 1971 |
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* Lista micilor acumulări cu folosinţă pisicicolă, de agrement sau de interes local din raza de competenţă a D.A. Jiu [http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:ZjKIX4bc5BoJ:www.mmediu.ro/ape/REBAR/inventar%2520ac%2520C%2520si%2520D.xls+%22Lista+micilor+acumulari+cu+folosinta+piscicola%22&hl=ro&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ro&lr=lang_ro] |
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The Prodila River is a tributary of the Jiu River in Romania.
References
- Administraţia Naţională Apelor Române - Cadastrul Apelor - Bucureşti
- Institutul de Meteorologie şi Hidrologie - Rîurile României - Bucureşti 1971
- Lista micilor acumulări cu folosinţă pisicicolă, de agrement sau de interes local din raza de competenţă a D.A. Jiu [1]
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