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:{{la|Cat Rock Hollow}} (<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Cat Rock Hollow|wpReason={{urlencode: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cat Rock Hollow]]}}&action=delete}} delete]</span>) – <includeonly>([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cat Rock Hollow|View AfD]])</includeonly><noinclude>([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2008 October 13#{{anchorencode:Cat Rock Hollow}}|View log]])</noinclude>
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Procedural nomination: after placing an AFD tag on the article, [[User:Cmichael]] only left ADW notices on three editors' talk pages and made some small modifications to the article for the county in which this hollow is located. The article is about a small hollow in [[Greenbrier County, West Virginia]], and Cmichael's apparent reason for nomination (as expressed in the edit summary for the edit in which he placed the tag) is "What makes this hollow notable? I don't know." Please replace my commentary etc. in this nomination with Cmichael's reasoning if he coems here to explain his reasons for submitting this article to AFD. [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 04:18, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
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:Now that I've explained reasons, I'll say '''Keep''': small hollows surely aren't major geographical features that are inherently notable, but this place seems to have enough sources to demonstrate minor notability. [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 04:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
'''Comment''' This article makes no claim of notability. There are a lot of hollows in West Virginia. Why is this one special? [[User:WVhybrid|WVhybrid]] ([[User talk:WVhybrid|talk]]) 04:36, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
*As I say, I believe that it does because (1) streams, etc. can be notable — thus that's the assertion of notability, being a geographic feature, and (2) its multiple reliable sources demonstrate notability that's claimed. [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 04:39, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Do we really want to start writing articles for every WV hollar just yet? We have so much to do first. No prej. against recreation down the line, though. [[User:Youngamerican| ''<font color="#CC5500">young</font>''<font color="#321414">american</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Youngamerican|wtf?]])</small> 13:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
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I have been a fairly frequent contributor to the Greenbrier County article over time. My recent edits are only my latest.
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Per [[WP:NGL]], the guidelines on notability for geographic features are not yet settled. If a consensus eventually forms around Option 1, then Cat Run Hollow and every other named geographic feature in the world would be considered notable. If the consensus eventually favors Option 3, then Cat Run Hollow might or might not be included. On the other hand, if the consensus forms around Option 2, which I would personally favor, then Cat Run Hollow would be excluded.
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The only other article that links to this one is the one for Greenbrier County, WV, where the hollow is apparently located. All of the other links on that page are to far more notable articles. Cat Run Hollow sticks out in the list for its lack of notability.
{{Vandal|71.225.161.6}} is blanking the warnings on his own talk page.


KCinDC is removing content. He does not even try to claim in a message to me that I commit vandalism, just that the content is controversial ect. which he feels it is justified to remove content - he could add to it or edit which would be the spirit of Wikipedia. According to his homepage, he works for the goverment in DC, therefore his intentions need to be considered with special criticism. For details, please see below.
The articles on the Greenbrier River, Beartown, Greenbrier State Forest, Greenbrier River Trail, and other geographic features could still use a lot of work, and no one would argue that Cat Run Hollow compares to any of them in notability.


04:49, 12 October 2008 KCinDC (Talk | contribs) m (6,976 bytes) (Reverted 5 edits by 76.91.183.192 identified as vandalism to last revision by Nagle. (TW)) (undo) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.91.183.192|76.91.183.192]] ([[User talk:76.91.183.192|talk]]) </span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Unless there is something special about Cat Run Hollow that I don't know about, I just don't think we should water down an encyclopedia by opening this door right now. If we do, then I could just as well write an article about Court Street, which is simply an ordinary residential street in Lewisburg where I used to live, and claim that it is notable because it appears on many, many maps. [[User:Cmichael|Cmichael]] ([[User talk:Cmichael|talk]]) 01:47, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
:I believe that all major geographic features are inherently notable, just like (for example) all professional athletes are notable. However, to use a biography example, I don't believe this hollow is any more notable than an amateur sportsperson: just like the amateur sportsperson isn't inherently notable, this hollow isn't inherently notable, but both are notable if and only if they have enough sources to make them notable anyway. I've supported keeping this article because I believe it's notable, not because it's an inherently notable place, but because it has multiple reliable sources that suffice for verification as required by our notability policies. [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 02:32, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

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    71.225.161.6 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) is blanking the warnings on his own talk page.

    KCinDC is removing content. He does not even try to claim in a message to me that I commit vandalism, just that the content is controversial ect. which he feels it is justified to remove content - he could add to it or edit which would be the spirit of Wikipedia. According to his homepage, he works for the goverment in DC, therefore his intentions need to be considered with special criticism. For details, please see below.

    04:49, 12 October 2008 KCinDC (Talk | contribs) m (6,976 bytes) (Reverted 5 edits by 76.91.183.192 identified as vandalism to last revision by Nagle. (TW)) (undo) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.91.183.192 (talk)

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