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== New template ==

[[Template:Australian rules football]] has been added by someone to all major Aussie rules articles, is it really necessary? Perhaps it should made into one of those horizontal templates that can be put down the bottom of the pages but at the moment it's just too distracting. Thoughts? [[User:Crickettragic|Crickettragic]] ([[User talk:Crickettragic|talk]]) 09:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
:I agree. In most of the articles it doesn't fit well, as in its stuck under another infobox or something else. Its a good template though and a great picture, so if it could be made into a collapsible horizontal template it would be great. [[User:Terlob|Terlob]] ([[User talk:Terlob|talk]]) 07:51, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

::I've made it into a navbox, same style as the premiership players template, which sits unobtrusively at the bottom of the articles. Not sure if it's possible to add a picture or not, even if it is I think it may be against Wiki policy. [[User:Crickettragic|Crickettragic]] ([[User talk:Crickettragic|talk]]) 05:00, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

== [[Bob Quinn (Australian footballer)]] 1915-2008 ==

Just thought I'd mention that the player my grandfather rated as the best he'd ever seen died today. Odd that I'd have learnt about his death via an anon editing the article to add his date of death. RIP Bob. --[[User:Roisterer|Roisterer]] ([[User talk:Roisterer|talk]]) 11:05, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

== University players complete! ==

Well it took a while, but over the past couple of weeks I've created 101 articles on [[Melbourne University Football Club|University]] players and its finally done! Of course there isn't much information available on most of the players, and in some cases even basic information such as birth dates are missing, so if you have anything to add go ahead! Alternatively, point me towards a source where I can find additional information and I'll do my best to add it. [[User:Terlob|Terlob]] ([[User talk:Terlob|talk]]) 09:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Wow. Didn't take you long! Good work mate. As you would have found, only a very small minority of Uni footballers played with a second club, and even less would have made it to 100 VFL games so it's understandable that information is going to be limited. On the list - [[VFL/AFL players who died in active service]], there is a link to each person's Roll of Honour at the Australian War Memorial website. For example [http://www.awm.gov.au/roh/person.asp?p=145-11619 Arch Corbett's] gives his middle name which isn't provided in the Encycolpedia of AFL Footballers. At this stage though I can't suggest any other source which would help greatly expand any articles.
Except for -
*[http://www.fullpointsfooty.net/bi-bz.htm#Jack%20Brake%20(University%20&%20Melbourne) Jack Brake]
*[http://www.fullpointsfooty.net/sa-sm.htm#Leo%20Seward%20(Ballarat%20&%20University) Leo Seward]
*[http://www.fullpointsfooty.net/f.htm#Thomas%20Fogarty%20(St%20Kilda,%20South%20Melbourne,%20University) Tom Fogarty]
The last two profiles have pictures of the subjects which you may wish to download if you know how.

Cheers. [[User:Crickettragic|Crickettragic]] ([[User talk:Crickettragic|talk]]) 09:51, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks, I'll get onto it. I'm not sure what permission or license to use though - any advice? [[User:Terlob|Terlob]] ([[User talk:Terlob|talk]]) 11:24, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

::Any picture, by an unknown author, taken in Australia prior to 1955 is in the public domain so you can use [[Template:PD-Australia]] for Seward and Fogarty. [[User:Crickettragic|Crickettragic]] ([[User talk:Crickettragic|talk]]) 12:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

== [[Keith Miller]] ==

Just to let you know that a few members of [[WP:CRICKET]] are moving Miller's biography on toward [[WP:FA]].

It'd be really good if some of you guys kept an eye on the Aussie Rules aspects of this extraordinary man's article, esp. with wikilinks, jargon-busting and correcting any errors / omissions. (Hopefully not too many omissions: the article's enormous as it is)

Cheers --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] ([[User talk:Dweller|talk]]) 12:49, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

:Keith Miller also represented New South Wales at the 1947 ANFC Carnival at Hobart. Not sure if you think that a small snippet of info like that is worth adding to other football refs, but thought I'd alert you in any case.
[[User:RossRSmith|RossRSmith]] ([[User talk:RossRSmith|talk]]) 14:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

::I've no idea how notable an achievement that is; I need you guys to guide me. What do you think? Is it like a State of Origin match in Rugby league? That's a big potato. Or is it more of a charity kickabout no-one takes very seriously, as "Carnival" implies? --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] ([[User talk:Dweller|talk]]) 15:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

::Sorry if "Carnival" misled you, but that is what they were known as. It means national level of competition, and representing your state at them was the highest level that could be attained. They were taken very seriously. [[User:RossRSmith|RossRSmith]] ([[User talk:RossRSmith|talk]]) 08:50, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Then we'd definitely want it in the article, if it's not there already. Is there a RS attestation to his appearance? --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] ([[User talk:Dweller|talk]]) 14:55, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Yes. NSW 18.22 d Canberra 7.8 on 30 July 1947. The Mercury (Hobart) issue dated 31 July 1947 included a column titled Carnival Highlights by "Drop-Kick." The second paragraph begins: "A special cheer was given the Australian Test cricketer, Keith Miller, when he took towering marks for New South Wales and when he kicked five goals.." [[User:RossRSmith|RossRSmith]] ([[User talk:RossRSmith|talk]]) 13:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

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: Nothing too controversial either on the list or missing out, although one could argue that the SCGs inclusion on the list (compare to the eclusion of AAMI, Subi & co.) was more to do with its cricket links than anything football related. --[[User:Roisterer|Roisterer]] ([[User talk:Roisterer|talk]]) 00:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

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== Caption problem ==

[[Image:VFL Grand Final in 1945 at the MCG.jpg]]

This says it was taken during the 1945 VFL Grand Final, when the '45 match was played at Princes Park...... <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/61.68.185.185|61.68.185.185]] ([[User talk:61.68.185.185|talk]]) 07:11, 3 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: I've notified the uploader of the image of this error. Not only that, there's no way South Melbourne is one of the teams in that pic. I wonder if it's supposed to be 1946? [[User:AFL-Cool|AFL-Cool]] ([[User talk:AFL-Cool|talk]]) 07:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

== Pre-season comp ==

[[Special:Contributions/BrianBeahr|User:BrianBeahr]], as I assume isn't yet familiar with the move page function, has already made duplicate articles on the VFL/AFL's pre-season competition under different names. Having discovered this I have, along with another user, redirected them back to the one article. His latest solution to the naming dispute has been to create and article called: [[Australian Football League National Cup Winners, Victorian Football League Night Series Winners and Victorian Football League Consolation Night Series Winners]]. Now seeing as that heading is so long that it could qualify as an article itself, can someone with knowledge of this area please suggest an compromise? Cheers. [[User:Crickettragic|Crickettragic]] ([[User talk:Crickettragic|talk]]) 07:57, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:I'm trying to clean it all up. Might need a few more mops though. [[Australian Football League National Cup Winners and Victorian Football League Consolation Night Series and Night Series Winners]] exists as a redirect as well! [[User:The-Pope|The-Pope]] ([[User talk:The-Pope|talk]]) 11:13, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::Sweet Jesus .... we've now got [[List of Australian Football League (formerly known as the Victorian Football League) Premiership Teams]] ... a duplication of [[List of Australian Football League premiers]]. [[User:Crickettragic|Crickettragic]] ([[User talk:Crickettragic|talk]]) 11:37, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::: Has anyone got a response from this user to all the notes on his talk page? [[User:AFL-Cool|AFL-Cool]] ([[User talk:AFL-Cool|talk]]) 22:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::He has responded to a few comments left on his talk page, so he's familiar with how messaging works. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BrianBeahr&diff=prev&oldid=244565852] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BrianBeahr&diff=prev&oldid=244566980] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BrianBeahr&diff=prev&oldid=244478916]. -- [[User:Longhair|Longhair]]\<sup>[[User_talk:Longhair|talk]]</sup> 23:59, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Nope. I feel we've given him enough feedback/warnings so if he continues to revert our edits we have grounds to take it to admin. God bless the kid for giving up his time contributing to this encyclopaedia but he would have to be one the worst editors in the history of Wikipedia. [[User:Crickettragic|Crickettragic]] ([[User talk:Crickettragic|talk]]) 23:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Can you guys please keep an eye on the [[St Kilda Football Club]] article. He keeps reverting back to his version of the article which breaks almost every manual of style rule in the book. I particularly like the subheading 'AFL Highest finishing team based in the State of Victoria at the end of the Finals Series'. I've informed him of the problems on his talk page, which he's deleted, so he has no excuse. I'm at risk of 3RR so if you could help me out here it would be appreciated. Cheers. [[User:Crickettragic|Crickettragic]] ([[User talk:Crickettragic|talk]]) 00:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

:I've left {{user|BrianBeahr}} a note on his talk page pointing to this conversation in the hope we gain a reply. -- [[User:Longhair|Longhair]]\<sup>[[User_talk:Longhair|talk]]</sup> 00:54, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Are my edits too factually correct for you - or do you just like to harass people who make a genuine contribution instead of adding a dot or a colour box to other peoples work (which is factually correct and correctly ordered) to get your number of edits up. {{unsigned|BrianBeahr}}

::Those who have problems with your edits have detailed the issues for you on your talk page. -- [[User:Longhair|Longhair]]\<sup>[[User_talk:Longhair|talk]]</sup> 06:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

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New template

Template:Australian rules football has been added by someone to all major Aussie rules articles, is it really necessary? Perhaps it should made into one of those horizontal templates that can be put down the bottom of the pages but at the moment it's just too distracting. Thoughts? Crickettragic (talk) 09:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. In most of the articles it doesn't fit well, as in its stuck under another infobox or something else. Its a good template though and a great picture, so if it could be made into a collapsible horizontal template it would be great. Terlob (talk) 07:51, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've made it into a navbox, same style as the premiership players template, which sits unobtrusively at the bottom of the articles. Not sure if it's possible to add a picture or not, even if it is I think it may be against Wiki policy. Crickettragic (talk) 05:00, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just thought I'd mention that the player my grandfather rated as the best he'd ever seen died today. Odd that I'd have learnt about his death via an anon editing the article to add his date of death. RIP Bob. --Roisterer (talk) 11:05, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

University players complete!

Well it took a while, but over the past couple of weeks I've created 101 articles on University players and its finally done! Of course there isn't much information available on most of the players, and in some cases even basic information such as birth dates are missing, so if you have anything to add go ahead! Alternatively, point me towards a source where I can find additional information and I'll do my best to add it. Terlob (talk) 09:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. Didn't take you long! Good work mate. As you would have found, only a very small minority of Uni footballers played with a second club, and even less would have made it to 100 VFL games so it's understandable that information is going to be limited. On the list - VFL/AFL players who died in active service, there is a link to each person's Roll of Honour at the Australian War Memorial website. For example Arch Corbett's gives his middle name which isn't provided in the Encycolpedia of AFL Footballers. At this stage though I can't suggest any other source which would help greatly expand any articles. Except for -

The last two profiles have pictures of the subjects which you may wish to download if you know how.

Cheers. Crickettragic (talk) 09:51, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll get onto it. I'm not sure what permission or license to use though - any advice? Terlob (talk) 11:24, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Any picture, by an unknown author, taken in Australia prior to 1955 is in the public domain so you can use Template:PD-Australia for Seward and Fogarty. Crickettragic (talk) 12:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you know that a few members of WP:CRICKET are moving Miller's biography on toward WP:FA.

It'd be really good if some of you guys kept an eye on the Aussie Rules aspects of this extraordinary man's article, esp. with wikilinks, jargon-busting and correcting any errors / omissions. (Hopefully not too many omissions: the article's enormous as it is)

Cheers --Dweller (talk) 12:49, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keith Miller also represented New South Wales at the 1947 ANFC Carnival at Hobart. Not sure if you think that a small snippet of info like that is worth adding to other football refs, but thought I'd alert you in any case.

RossRSmith (talk) 14:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've no idea how notable an achievement that is; I need you guys to guide me. What do you think? Is it like a State of Origin match in Rugby league? That's a big potato. Or is it more of a charity kickabout no-one takes very seriously, as "Carnival" implies? --Dweller (talk) 15:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry if "Carnival" misled you, but that is what they were known as. It means national level of competition, and representing your state at them was the highest level that could be attained. They were taken very seriously. RossRSmith (talk) 08:50, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Then we'd definitely want it in the article, if it's not there already. Is there a RS attestation to his appearance? --Dweller (talk) 14:55, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. NSW 18.22 d Canberra 7.8 on 30 July 1947. The Mercury (Hobart) issue dated 31 July 1947 included a column titled Carnival Highlights by "Drop-Kick." The second paragraph begins: "A special cheer was given the Australian Test cricketer, Keith Miller, when he took towering marks for New South Wales and when he kicked five goals.." RossRSmith (talk) 13:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Nothing too controversial either on the list or missing out, although one could argue that the SCGs inclusion on the list (compare to the eclusion of AAMI, Subi & co.) was more to do with its cricket links than anything football related. --Roisterer (talk) 00:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Large number of AfD's in progress

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Caption problem

This says it was taken during the 1945 VFL Grand Final, when the '45 match was played at Princes Park...... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.68.185.185 (talk) 07:11, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've notified the uploader of the image of this error. Not only that, there's no way South Melbourne is one of the teams in that pic. I wonder if it's supposed to be 1946? AFL-Cool (talk) 07:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-season comp

User:BrianBeahr, as I assume isn't yet familiar with the move page function, has already made duplicate articles on the VFL/AFL's pre-season competition under different names. Having discovered this I have, along with another user, redirected them back to the one article. His latest solution to the naming dispute has been to create and article called: Australian Football League National Cup Winners, Victorian Football League Night Series Winners and Victorian Football League Consolation Night Series Winners. Now seeing as that heading is so long that it could qualify as an article itself, can someone with knowledge of this area please suggest an compromise? Cheers. Crickettragic (talk) 07:57, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying to clean it all up. Might need a few more mops though. Australian Football League National Cup Winners and Victorian Football League Consolation Night Series and Night Series Winners exists as a redirect as well! The-Pope (talk) 11:13, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sweet Jesus .... we've now got List of Australian Football League (formerly known as the Victorian Football League) Premiership Teams ... a duplication of List of Australian Football League premiers. Crickettragic (talk) 11:37, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Has anyone got a response from this user to all the notes on his talk page? AFL-Cool (talk) 22:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
He has responded to a few comments left on his talk page, so he's familiar with how messaging works. [1] [2] [3]. -- Longhair\talk 23:59, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nope. I feel we've given him enough feedback/warnings so if he continues to revert our edits we have grounds to take it to admin. God bless the kid for giving up his time contributing to this encyclopaedia but he would have to be one the worst editors in the history of Wikipedia. Crickettragic (talk) 23:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can you guys please keep an eye on the St Kilda Football Club article. He keeps reverting back to his version of the article which breaks almost every manual of style rule in the book. I particularly like the subheading 'AFL Highest finishing team based in the State of Victoria at the end of the Finals Series'. I've informed him of the problems on his talk page, which he's deleted, so he has no excuse. I'm at risk of 3RR so if you could help me out here it would be appreciated. Cheers. Crickettragic (talk) 00:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've left BrianBeahr (talk · contribs) a note on his talk page pointing to this conversation in the hope we gain a reply. -- Longhair\talk 00:54, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are my edits too factually correct for you - or do you just like to harass people who make a genuine contribution instead of adding a dot or a colour box to other peoples work (which is factually correct and correctly ordered) to get your number of edits up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrianBeahr (talkcontribs)

Those who have problems with your edits have detailed the issues for you on your talk page. -- Longhair\talk 06:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]