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==Crime==
==Comics and animation==
{{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doonesbury Icons}}
{{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Burger Chef murders}}
{{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Specialist (comics)}}
{{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Max Sanders}}
{{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Dark Wielder}}
{{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emer O'Loughlin}}
{{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cancer Grey}}
{{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alisa Flatow}}

==Crime Proposed deletions==
*{{prodded|Kathleen Lopez|2007-12-21|}}
*{{prodded|MacDonald triad|2007-09-03|Deleted; later re-created}}

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Crime

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The result was keep. MBisanz talk 15:48, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Burger Chef murders

Burger Chef murders (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View AfD)

Doesn't seem to be notable. Only one source, WP:NOT#NEWS. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:52, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep an unsolved multiple murder with 4 victims is notable enough. Sources need to be updated. DGG (talk) 18:01, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep For the express purpose of "give it a chance"- looks notable enough, but desperately needs rewriting. —/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 19:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. After 30 years, it is STILL in the news... and since notability is not temporary, it should stay. Agree that article needs updating. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 22:24, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per this, in particular. Apparently still the subject of media interest more than a quarter-century later. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 00:01, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep but rewrite Notable? Yes! But the pulpy writing (especially that last paragraph) is a bit much. Ecoleetage (talk) 02:57, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, surely this would have gotten considerable press coverage, at least locally, at the time. Everyking (talk) 00:48, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep with citations. The article seems to assert its notability but, especially on such a touchy subject, needs to be backed up by citations. MvjsTalking 08:38, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 15:49, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Max Sanders

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Per WP:BLP1E, no evidence of lasting notability. Prod tag removed by author. Recommend Delete. // Chris (complaints)•(contribs) 20:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 04:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Emer O'Loughlin

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Emer O'Loughlin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View AfD)

My apologies for not editing this page to include much more information as yet, I am new to Wikipedia editing. This page is a joint effort between three people, all of whom, close to the deceased. As for notable, a case such as this is notable depending on where you live, if you live in the villages or towns of the Republic of Ireland, everyone knows of the case, it hits the communities hard. I will be sure to include a line stating that if you allow the page to be left live for just a while longer. The whole county of Clare in Ireland heard of this case and realise that this is not an everyday occurrence to them, its the sort of case which just takes you by Storm, despite the troubles in Ireland. Thank You, —Preceding unsigned comment added by SportingShooter06 (talk • contribs) 22:04, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have taken on board the points on that page, personally, I have been trying to put across a neutral point of view, another editor is not. I realise it is not the purpose of Wikipedia to promote cases for the benefit of one side only. It is difficult to be completely unbiased, however, I have agreed with the other two editors, that I will write the rest of the page, seen as the only information to stay on the page was posted by myself. I hope you can appreciate that it takes a great deal to write about something such as this. Thank you for letting it stay live for that bit longer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SportingShooter06 (talk • contribs) 09:40, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:22, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep By searching google news using ALL dates] you find 8 wp:rs hits. This passes notability and reliable sources. The rest can be fixed with tags and perhaps helping the new editor out. Notability policy says that subject must be verifiable, NOT verified. Again, that's what tags are for, not AFD. PHARMBOY (TALK) 01:05, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. The last media interest was more than two years ago. Sadly, people are murdered every day. What puts this incident above WP:ONEEVENT? WWGB (talk) 02:53, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The amount of coverage in Ireland. Maybe. I understand that the article is thin and the fact that is unsolved is the main reason for the coverage, but with several wp:rs sources, it seems to pass. If nothing else, WWGB says cover the event, not the person, which would mean a move to different title, not a delete. I'm not claiming to be ironclad about this (and fully understand your argument), but this is what I am reading in the policy here when taken literally. I am all ears to hear other precedents and learn something new. Is there another article it can be merged into, if it is borderline? PHARMBOY (TALK) 11:43, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
other comment Read the intro for JonBenét Ramsey which says that the main notability is the longevity and the media interest. This article isn't at THAT level, but where is the threshold? idunno. PHARMBOY (TALK) 11:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, Wikipedia is no a memorial. Stifle (talk) 13:30, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, kurykh 07:36, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, no particular encyclopedic notability: neither for the person nor for the murder case. `'Míkka>t 08:04, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep. The article could use expansion and more detail, but it's clearly notable. Fumoses (talk) 13:19, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - WP:BLP1E applies here. Marasmusine (talk) 14:58, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:BLP1E. I don't see anything in this article that would make this case noteworthy among the many tragic unsolved murder cases that exist. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:58, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. A discussion on merging is in order at Talk:Alisa Flatow. Stifle (talk) 08:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alisa Flatow

Alisa Flatow (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View AfD)

Classic One event material. She's only notable because she was the victim of a bombing. I don't think an individual becomes notable by being killed in a terrorist attack. She has done nothing notable. Perhaps the information about Iran being ordered to pay damages could be merged into Egged bus 36 bombing. Enigma message 05:57, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Flatow has been in the news repeatedly in relation to the case Flatow v. Islamic Republic of Iran and efforts to recover damages from Iran. Many more reliable and verifiable sources are available to expand the article, but the article satisfies the Wikipedia:Notability standard as is. Alansohn (talk) 06:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think it does. She herself hasn't been the subject of reliable sources, only her death and events her family were involved in after her death. Rami R 11:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Weak delete. I agree with the nom that this is basically a WP:BIO1E case. Could probably be merged/redirected to Egged bus 36 bombing. Nsk92 (talk) 10:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and delete - this is as WP:BIO1E as it gets. I mean, her birth date isn't even mentioned, only her death date. The only note-worthy information I see is about Flatow v. Iran, and that can be trivially introduced to the Egged bus 36 bombing article. Rami R 11:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Oodles of coverage for this person, and there's a fricking school named after her - that alone ought to be a sufficient indicium of notability! -- Y not? 20:02, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The question is not whether it is a good article or even a Start-level article. The article needs to be beefed up. But the questions in an AfD based on non-notability are, is the subject notable and is the notability asserted in the article. The article says this person is the subject of a $200+ million judgment against another country, and has a school named after her. I would say that lifts her above the common non-notable rabble. 6SJ7 (talk) 04:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. News coverage+school+lawsuit=passes inclusion guidelines as they now stand. youngamerican (wtf?) 17:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge/Redirect to Egged bus 36 bombing. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 02:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge. This is a clear one-event entry. With all due respect for the subject, and sympathy to the family, there is nothing notable about being a bombing victim, or, if the bombing is terrorism, receiving a large award in a US court (not every one of the Lockerbie disaster victims who sued in US courts is notable despite meeting that criterion). Likewise, having a school named in one's honor is not any indicator of notability at all. Bongomatic (talk) 23:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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