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The result was redirect to Turnstiles. MBisanz ^talk 06:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Summer, Highland Falls

I believe the wholesale transcription of text from An Evening of Questions & Answers and Perhaps a Few Songs constitutes a copyright violation. Without this text, the page has no meaningful content. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to clarify this. I recognise that the article contains a large blockquote, but is that actually a copyright violation? This came from a live interview and was transcribed and tweaked by hand. I understand that lyrics may be copyright and the same with the audio from the interview, but is what someone said actually copyright? The best person to comment on the history and meaning of a song is the person who wrote it. Is the quote (so often asked for on the rest of Wikipedia) really aginst policy? BennieAndTheJets (talk) 08:56, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If the quote had been lifted from a newpaper article in an independent interview, this use would be considered "fair use", but as the quote was part of the copyrighted content of the recording, I don't think this use is "fair use". I.e., I think the authors want the purchasers of that copyrighted material to have an extra insight not generally available, and by publishing that information in a free source (Wikipedia) you have usurped the authors' rights to be paid for that extra insight. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I will cut down the length of the quote and fill out the article with additional material. 60.242.42.27 (talk) 00:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. The article is almost entirely a direct quote from another source. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 01:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Turnstiles per WP:BEFORE and WP:NSONGS. Neier (talk) 23:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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+I believe the wholesale transcription of text from ''An Evening of Questions & Answers and Perhaps a Few Songs'' constitutes a copyright violation.  Without this text, the page has no meaningful content. <font color="red">[[User:WikiDan61|WikiDan61]]</font><font color="green" size="5px"></font><sup>[[User talk:WikiDan61|ChatMe!]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/WikiDan61|ReadMe!!]]</sub> 11:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
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+::I would like to clarify this. I recognise that the article contains a large blockquote, but is that actually a copyright violation? This came from a live interview and was transcribed and tweaked by hand. I understand that lyrics may be copyright and the same with the audio from the interview, but is what someone said actually copyright? The best person to comment on the history and meaning of a song is the person who wrote it. Is the quote (so often asked for on the rest of Wikipedia) really aginst policy? [[User:BennieAndTheJets|BennieAndTheJets]] ([[User talk:BennieAndTheJets|talk]]) 08:56, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
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+:::If the quote had been lifted from a newpaper article in an independent interview, this use would be considered "fair use", but as the quote was part of the copyrighted content of the recording, I don't think this use is "fair use".  I.e., I think the authors want the purchasers of that copyrighted material to have an extra insight not generally available, and by publishing that information in a free source (Wikipedia) you have usurped the authors' rights to be paid for that extra insight. <font color="red">[[User:WikiDan61|WikiDan61]]</font><font color="green" size="5px"></font><sup>[[User talk:WikiDan61|ChatMe!]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/WikiDan61|ReadMe!!]]</sub> 12:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
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+:::: Alright, I will cut down the length of the quote and fill out the article with additional material. [[Special:Contributions/60.242.42.27|60.242.42.27]] ([[User talk:60.242.42.27|talk]]) 00:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
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+* '''Delete''' per nom. The article is almost entirely a direct quote from another source. -- [[User:Gmatsuda|Gmatsuda]] ([[User talk:Gmatsuda|talk]]) 01:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
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