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'''Rue Monsieur-le-Prince''' is a street of [[Paris]], located in the [[6th arrondissement of Paris|6th arrondissement]]. |
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{{WPBIO |nested=yes |living=yes}} |
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{{WikiProject hip hop |nested=yes }} |
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{{oldafdfull|page=Chaundon|date=13 April 2008|result='''keep'''}} |
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| nomdate= 2008-10-03 |
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| condate= 2008-10-07 |
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| nomreason= non-notable artist, fails WP:MUSIC |
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| 2ndreason= A search of the Google news archive fails to return any non-trivial coverage. |
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| conreason= survived an AfD |
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==Notice: This article does not [[WP:Verifiability|verifiably]] establish {{ #switch: {{lc:Music}} |
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[[Image:Ambox_warning_blue.svg|left|48px|]] In my opinion, this article either does not [[WP:Verifiability|verifiably]] satisfy the [[WP:Notability|Notability]] criteria for {{ #switch: {{lc:Music}} |
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| music = [[WP:MUSIC|Music]] |
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| schools = [[WP:SCL|Schools]] |
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| proposed = one of the following guidelines for inclusion on Wikipedia: [[WP:PROF|Academics]], [[WP:BIO|Biographies]], [[WP:CORP|Organizations and companies]], [[WP:FICTION|Fiction]], [[WP:MUSIC|Music]], [[WP:MOVIE|Films]], [[WP:SCL|Schools]], [[WP:WEB|Web content]]}}, or it may violate the [[WP:COI|Conflict of interest]] guideline, or perhaps it is a [[WP:COPYVIO|Copyright violation]]. |
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==See also== |
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Wikipedia articles must be [[WP:RS|based on reliable sources]] to [[WP:V|verify]] any claims of notability. Even though the lack of [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] in an article is not grounds for deletion in itself, an article with absolutely ''no'' sources (or only [[WP:EL|external links]] to ''unreliable'' ones) suggests to some editors that multiple reliable sources may not, in fact, exist. |
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* [[Hôtel de Condé]], formerly located in the area |
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* [[Polidor]], located at located at #41 |
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==External links== |
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Although I am considering tagging this article for deletion according to the [[WP:DELETE|Deletion policy]], I am nonetheless willing to assist '''User:{{User|Able2 }}''', and other recent contributors to this article, to make some constructive improvements to it ... I do not have time to examine this article in depth at the moment, and it may improve over time, in which case this warning was premature. |
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* [http://www.terrace.qld.edu.au/academic/lote/french/rueparis/rueindex.htm Detailed description of the street] |
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[[Category:6th arrondissement of Paris]] |
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Please respond on ''this'' Discussion page, instead of on ''my'' Talk page, in order to avoid fragmenting the conversation. |
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[[Category:Streets in Paris|Monsieur-le-Prince]] |
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[[fr:Rue Monsieur-le-Prince]] |
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To better understand why I have used this template, please read ''[[:Template:Flag-templates#Flag templates for deletion warnings|Flag templates for deletion warnings]]'' ... I realize that some of the expressed ''possible'' concerns may not be appropriate in this case. |
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Happy Editing! — '''{{#if:72.75.82.202|{{User|72.75.82.202}}|[[Special:Contributions/72.75.82.202|72.75.82.202]] ([[User talk:72.75.82.202|talk]])}}''' <sub>21:21, 5 October 2008 (UTC)</sub> |
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*The problem is you can't PROD an article that's already been to AfD. You have to take it to AfD again and make your case there. PROD is for uncontroversial deletion, and obviously this would not qualify. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 20:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== Lipstick on a pig == |
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Well, if nothing else, I discovered the {{tl|Allmusic}} template ... |
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*{{allmusicguide | id=11:dzfexqlsld0e~T0 | label= Chaundon }} |
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gives us: |
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*{{allmusicguide | id=11:dzfexqlsld0e~T0 | label= Chaundon }} |
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And that's as much lipstick as I feel like putting on this pig. :-) — [[Special:Contributions/72.75.82.202|72.75.82.202]] ([[User talk:72.75.82.202|talk]]) 21:24, 6 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== AfD, anyone? == |
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Hello, fellow editors ... I forgot to "delete" this one, and now that I've put a little more lipstick on it (since the [[WP:PROD]] was contested), I'm wondering if Some Other Editor agrees that it should go to [[WP:AfD]]. Comments, please? — [[Special:Contributions/72.75.82.202|72.75.82.202]] ([[User talk:72.75.82.202|talk]]) 20:42, 11 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:I've just tried to improve the article - maybe you would like to try to do the same?--[[User:Michig|Michig]] ([[User talk:Michig|talk]]) 20:55, 11 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:: I ''did'' do some (cosmetic) "[[Obsessive-compulsive disorder|Monkish]]" [[WP:GNOME|WikiGnome]] stuff … see the 6th Step of [[Wikipedia:FLAG-PROTOCOL#Protocol to minimize friction from proposed and speedy deletions|Protocol to minimize friction from proposed and speedy deletions]] ([[WP:AGF|assume good faith]], ''etc''.), but honestly, that's as much lipstick as I felt like putting on this pig … OTOH, through the diligence of Some Other Editors, this article got rescued, so I'm a Happy Camper. :-) — [[Special:Contributions/72.75.82.202|72.75.82.202]] ([[User talk:72.75.82.202|talk]]) 21:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Ok. Thanks. That's a lot more than some editors would do, particularly with hip-hop related articles. Personally I would add a step zero to the above-referenced protocol which suggests spending a couple of minutes searching for evidence of notability before even proposing deletion. Having said that, a lot of hip-hop oriented editors don't help by creating poor unsourced articles. --[[User:Michig|Michig]] ([[User talk:Michig|talk]]) 21:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC) |
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::::I feel that I'm making a "contribution" by bringing it to the attention of Some Other Editor, even if I don't fix it myself … that's why I created [[:Category:Flagged articles]]. :-) And if nothing else, I learned something new (<code>{{tl|allmusicguide}}</code>) — [[Special:Contributions/72.75.82.202|72.75.82.202]] ([[User talk:72.75.82.202|talk]]) 21:55, 12 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::I forgot to mention … "spending a couple of minutes searching for evidence of notability before even proposing deletion" is what you do ''after'' you flag the article, when you have more time to devote to it, ''before'' you decide to fix it or get rid of it … it's either damaged or broken, and one can be repaired, but the other cannot … don't spend a lot of time on it when you first encounter it … ''flag'' it for later, when you're maybe in a different frame of mind … and there is ''always'' the possibility that Some Other Editor will "adopt" the article and improve it overnight, once it's been flagged. — [[Special:Contributions/72.75.82.202|72.75.82.202]] ([[User talk:72.75.82.202|talk]]) 22:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC) |
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::::::Flagging isn't a problem - trouble is some editors use CSD and PROD as flags when they see a problem with an article.--[[User:Michig|Michig]] ([[User talk:Michig|talk]]) 06:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::::As with all paradigm shifts, there is inertia to be overcome … hopefully, more editors will become aware of {{tl|Flag-article}} and {{tl|Flag-editor}} as an alternative, and we'll see fewer ''hasty'' [[WP:CSD]]s and [[WP:PROD]]s. — [[Special:Contributions/72.75.82.202|72.75.82.202]] ([[User talk:72.75.82.202|talk]]) 06:36, 13 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== [[:Category:Flagged articles]] == |
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I have removed the <code><nowiki>[[</nowiki>[[:Category:Flagged articles]]]]</code> from |
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[[#Notice: This article does not verifiably establish WP:MUSIC|the message above]] |
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… the current version is a great improvement, and it looks ''Just Fine'' to me … Happy Editing! — '''{{#if:72.75.82.202|{{User|72.75.82.202}}|[[Special:Contributions/72.75.82.202|72.75.82.202]] ([[User talk:72.75.82.202|talk]])}}''' <sub>21:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)</sub> |
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Revision as of 06:36, 13 October 2008
Rue Monsieur-le-Prince is a street of Paris, located in the 6th arrondissement.
See also
- Hôtel de Condé, formerly located in the area
- Polidor, located at located at #41