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== Thanks for your edits on the tarot card pages ==


==People==
I'm someone just figuring out how the whole system works, and just thought I'd say thanks for starting to fill in some of that information. Thanks. :) --[[User:BigCow|BigCow]] 04:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:My pleasure ;) if you want I can fill up on the other cards too. --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] 19:08, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::That would make me a happy Panda. I've compiled a list of notes for myself based on stuff I've read and my own interpretations, I may send it to you to see what ya think of it. My initial exposure to the whole system was [[Quest for Glory IV]] actually, and seeing references in things like [[The Red Violin]] have piqued my interest, have my first deck ordered from Amazon.--[[User:BigCow|BigCow]] 22:02, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


* [[Bob Charlebois]] (1944-), Canadian ice hockey player
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* [[David Charlebois]], (1962-2001), first officer of [[American Airlines Flight 77]]
* [[Lucie Charlebois]], (1959), Canadian politician
* [[Robert Charlebois]] (1944), Canadian author, actor, composer and singer
* Sylvain Charlebois (1970), Canadian researcher, food and agriculture


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* [[Charlebois v. Saint John (City)]] a [[Supreme Court of Canada]] decision on language.
==Astrology articles==
Just wanted to say that I am ''so'' glad to see another editor involved with keeping uncited changes from taking over these series of articles. [[User:Pairadox|Pairadox]] ([[User talk:Pairadox|talk]]) 05:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


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:These articles certainly need the upkeep. They seem to magnetize personal opinions! :) [[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 05:40, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
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==What software are ''you'' using?==
Almost every astrology software I've tried had the major asteroids in it. Try [http://www.astrolog.org/astrolog.htm Astrolog], it's pretty much the default astrology software. Or if you already are, you select the objects you want included in Settings > Object Settings. [http://www.download.com/3120-20_4.html?tg=dl-20&qt=astrology&tag=srch See also...]

[[User:IdLoveOne|IdLoveOne]] ([[User talk:IdLoveOne|talk]]) 17:09, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

:That's just it, you have to '''elect to add them''', which means that the designers of the programs and websites did not find it appropriate for them to be inserted by '''default'''. --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 17:18, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

::'''Popularity isn't everything.''' Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, it took them a while to gain the status they have now as full-fledged planets, it certainly wasn't easy for tinier-than-the-Moon Pluto to get the respect it has now. --[[User:IdLoveOne|IdLoveOne]] ([[User talk:IdLoveOne|talk]]) 18:01, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

:::And now these have entered consensus. Ceres has not, and the article '''must''' point to the status and current consensus of its use, with proper sources as per [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|Wikipedia '''policy''']]. --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 18:06, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

::::Have you checked the [[Asteroids in astrology]] page? There you can find some links with more information, citations and web sites about Ceres. I've been studying astrology for about 4 years now, not much, but I think the observing planetary transits and natal placement is a better (and more mature) way of learning what a planet does than relying too much on books and popular consensus. [[User:IdLoveOne|IdLoveOne]] ([[User talk:IdLoveOne|talk]]) 14:49, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

:::::It seems you are not considering basic Wikipedia policies in your edits, like [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]] and [[Wikipedia:No original research]], or in the case of my edit you reverted, [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Undue weight]]. This kind of approach is unbefitting here, but unfortunately in the astrology articles it sometimes feels like I am the only one that cares. I urge you to please [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|cite more sources]] (inline sources) in your edits. --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 15:38, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

::::::In cases like these, I like to make sure the article is fair and that both or all viewpoints are represented (see the [[Planets_in_astrology#Ceres|Ceres]] section now) or otherwise the one I feel the apparent facts hint at most strongly. '''I WILL NOT''' recognize a popular ''opinion'' (or one of slightly more popularity) as fact, especially when I have research that might indicate otherwise. Things like that are what caused the [[Salem witch trials]] and they only provide a secure '''feeling''' of truth, not the actual thing, which BTW is what I think you are looking for instead of what Ceres truly does. In matters of opinion, people should have the known facts presented to them so they can come to their own conclusion, not just the way one or two people want them to see it (but then, this is my own opinion). If you did your own research, you might discover something no one else is even aware of yet. [[User:IdLoveOne|IdLoveOne]] ([[User talk:IdLoveOne|talk]]) 19:23, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I will not discuss breaching Wikipedia Policies. I am not looking for anything but preserving the rules here. '''[[Wikipedia:No original research|No original research]]''' is no original research. My personal opinions and observations I save for myself. I am not a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] as per the requirements of wikipedia, and neither are you. You can open your own website to discuss your personal research. --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 19:56, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

::::::::I don't use original research on Wikipedia, but I do tend to cite the sources of my statements, this is acceptable according to [[Wikipedia:No_original_research#Citing_oneself]] and [[Wikipedia:No_original_research#Verifiability_.28V.29]]

::::::::Maybe you should consider this too, since you care so much about maintaining Wiki policy: [[Wikipedia:Ignore all rules]]. [[User:IdLoveOne|IdLoveOne]] ([[User talk:IdLoveOne|talk]]) 22:29, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

==Magician card==
Thanks, we were in edit conflict and you beat me to it. I will take a look at more when I can, but this is a busy time of year for me.[[User:Professor marginalia|Professor marginalia]] ([[User talk:Professor marginalia|talk]]) 19:01, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, I'm sorry. I'm too overzealous sometimes :) --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 19:19, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::No apology necessary. It's just I promised to do it myself and didn't want you to think I dropped the ball. Thanks again. [[User:Professor marginalia|Professor marginalia]] ([[User talk:Professor marginalia|talk]]) 15:21, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

==Boil==
Just saw your edit on Aries, what does 'boil' mean?[[User:Dougweller|Doug Weller]] ([[User talk:Dougweller|talk]]) 20:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry I meant [[Wiktionary:boil down to|boil down to]]. --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 21:50, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

==Taurus physical types==
Hello, here are my written sources for my Taurean description: The body type is usually robust or can be lanky which is what Linda Goodman says in her famoue book "Sun Signs"; whereas the Grecian nose and Rubenesque body for females comes from Talila Stan, a brilliant Israeli astrologer whose book is entitled " Cast Your Own Horoscope". Now for the part about the swan neck-well those are my words taken from another physical description of Taurean women which I got from Alan Oken's "Complete Astrology" in which he states that the women are "beautifully proportioned with wide shoulders revealing a well-formed, arched neck. They are extremely graceful in their slow movements and exude airs of deep sensuality, amazing drawing powers, and tremendous magnetism". Now doesn't that sound like an apt description for these famous Taurus women: Lucrezia Borgia, Anne Boleyn, Lady Hamilton,Catherine The Great,,the Grafin von Konisgmarck, Empress Eugenie of France,Eva Peron, Koo Stark,Italian singer Anna Oxa,models Linda Evangelista, Leaticia Casta,actresss Michelle Pfeiffer, Anne Parillaud, Uma Thurman, Penelope Cruz and the singer/actress Cher? All Taurean women.[[User:Jeanne boleyn|jeanne]] ([[User talk:Jeanne boleyn|talk]]) 06:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

:Alright, thank you :-) I am adding those references to the article. --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 17:53, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
::Nathaniel, two other very typical Taurean women would have to include Bianca Jagger and Barbra Streisand. I notice you list modelling as a suitable career. That is true; Taurus women are easily the best-dressed in the zodiac.They are chic and strangely enough for such a conservative sign, their clothes are quite avante-garde but of the finest quality. They prefer fabrics soft to the touch such as silk, velvet, cashmere, chiffon. You should add a list of famous Taureans to the article. I note that you are a Taurus. I've got two sons who are Taurus plus a sister! It is an underrated sign and has probably produced some of the most influencial personalities in history, who have strongly impacted mankind for good or evil. Scorpio does not even come close![[User:Jeanne boleyn|jeanne]] ([[User talk:Jeanne boleyn|talk]]) 05:50, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Shiny! ==

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:Thanks! :-] [[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 19:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


=={{#if:Fact|Fact|Merge}} templates==
The date syntax is: <nowiki>{{</nowiki>{{#if:Fact|Fact|Merge}}{{!}}any other arguments{{!}}date=September 2008<nowiki>}}</nowiki>, but if you leave the date off it will be added by a [[WP:BOT]]. {{#if:The Moon (Tarot card)|(Note refers to [[The Moon (Tarot card)]].)|}} {{#if:|''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 19:58 [[4 September]] [[2008]] (GMT). 19:58, 4 September 2008 (UTC)|''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 19:58 [[4 September]] [[2008]] (GMT).}}

:I understood that the new structure is <nowiki>{{Fact|month=August|year=2008}}</nowiki>. I have seen bots change the old <nowiki>{{Fact|date=August 2008}}</nowiki> to the aforementioned structure. Which one is it then? --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 00:11, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
==Removal of list==
::Nathaniel, why did you delete the lists I put on famous people born under Aries, Taurus and Gemini? Today I was to list Cancer. I think a lot of readers would be interested in seeing such lists. Perhaps they could be restored and cut down to size?--[[User:Jeanne boleyn|jeanne]] ([[User talk:Jeanne boleyn|talk]]) 05:31, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Jeanne, I removed the material because there is a policy on Wikipedia that asks that people don't make lists of people that are not famous for being associated with the list's topic (in this case being of a certain sign). For example the Aries celebrities are not famous for being Aries people, but for being musicians, artists and politicians. This is the policy I am talking about, you can read about it: '''[[WP:NOTDIR]]'''.

This kinda makes sense, because there are too many "celebrities" in the world, and one person's famous guy is not famous in the eye of another. This means that a list of famous people of a certain sign may be never-ending. You can soon see the addition of thousands and thousands of people that you and me would not even consider famous or even interesting. This will easily overload the article with trivial information, instead of focussing on the more interesting discussion of the actual sign and its natives :-)

This issue has also been discussed on [[Talk:Gemini (astrology)#Notable People|Gemini's talk page]] and on [[Talk:Aries (astrology)#Notable people who share this sign section|Aries' talk page]]. --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 03:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
::Yes, I see what you mean. I included a lot of historical figures on my lists, whereas someone else may be only interested in sports personalities or rock stars. You are right- it could end up the length of a phone directory, with names being constantly replaced by others.--[[User:Jeanne boleyn|jeanne]] ([[User talk:Jeanne boleyn|talk]]) 18:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)--[[User:Jeanne boleyn|jeanne]] ([[User talk:Jeanne boleyn|talk]]) 18:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I actually tried to add a list like that on the hebrew Wikipedia but it caused a mess and was removed :-) --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 05:45, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
==Astrology and the Jewish religion==

::I notice that you are an Israeli. Nathaniel, I would like to ask you a question. How is astrology regarded in the Jewish religion? We all know how astrology fell into disrepute following the Reformation and the so-called Age of Reason, but what does Jewish teaching say? Do the rabbis denounce it or just simply ignore it's existance? I am curious, because when I lived in America the best astrologers I personally encountered were Jewish. Then there is Linda Goodman and the astute Israeli astrologer Talila Stan. Perhaps the ancient Hebrews learned astrlogy from the Persians?--[[User:Jeanne boleyn|jeanne]] ([[User talk:Jeanne boleyn|talk]]) 14:51, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure I'm the best source for information about it. I dislike religion in any capacity as I consider it interfering with the pure spirituality I seek and believe in. I did undertake some Kabbalah courses and found that Astrology is often used in Jewish mysticism, even though conventional Judaism has a rather negative opinion of it. The approach to Astrology, as well as to the more controversial Tarot cards, really differs from Rabbi to Rabbi, so it depends on the dogma of the day [[Image:wink.png]] --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 03:54, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks for your swift response. I've never studied the Kabbalah but that could explain the excellence of so many Jewish astrologers. Weren't the Templars also influenced by the Kabbalah? Personally, I've managed to blend religion with my occult studies and practises. For me there has never been a conflict of interest. I often discuss astrology with my priest and once I read his palm!--[[User:Jeanne boleyn|jeanne]] ([[User talk:Jeanne boleyn|talk]]) 05:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

It's wonderful that your priest has an open mind like that. I actually prefer Christianity to Judaism, just because I am a great believer in the holiness of self-sacrifice. The only thing I took from Judaism was "love thy neighbour as thyself", although it is seldom practised here, and I guess is also very close to the philosophy of Christianity. On the other hand I'm not sure the religious labeling helps bring humanity together. --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 16:29, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
::But Christianity and Judaism are closely linked. Jesus was a Jew as were all of his disciples. Do you think the Magi were astrologers? I do.--[[User:Jeanne boleyn|jeanne]] ([[User talk:Jeanne boleyn|talk]]) 16:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

There are still fundamental differences. Christianity is more Neptunian in nature, Judaism is Venusian at best, seeking balance of giving and getting (also symbolised by the star of david). To the best of my knowledge there are no significant martyrs in Judaism, therefore there are no role models and no inspiration for people to get beyond their little selves. I see way too much hatred here, and it is often endorsed by the local religious figures. Did you see Israel's chart? Pretty harsh stuff [[Image:Sad.png]] --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 04:39, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
::I was under the impression that Judaism and the Jewish people were ruled by Capricorn and Saturn. I knew Christianity was Neptunian. Isn't Israel a Taurean nation? And the Arabs are Sagittarius if I'm not mistaken. (Pluto is currently in Sagittarius now, as I'm sure you are aware! It's interesting that Catholics prefer the New Testament, whereas Protestants prefer the Old. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Talmud the first Six Books of the Old Testament? Isn't King David much revered by the Jews as well as Abraham? David is one of the most popular names for Jewish boys in America.--[[User:Jeanne boleyn|jeanne]] ([[User talk:Jeanne boleyn|talk]]) 05:58, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Judaism also has Saturnian qualities, but scarcely any Neptunian ones, and I consider Neptune (on its positive side) to be the ultimate bridge to God. The Talmud is actually a collection of material by Jewish wise men, and not part of the Old Testament, and yeah these people are revered in Judaism :-) --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 02:38, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
::Wasn't the Holocaust Neptunian? I read that in Debbi Kempton- Smith's book.--[[User:Jeanne boleyn|jeanne]] ([[User talk:Jeanne boleyn|talk]]) 06:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps the Holocaust itself was, in a way, but never the people. --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 04:37, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
::So you would consider Christians to be Neptunian? How about Catholics and Protestants? Catholicism is probably closer to Neptune with Jupiter influences as well, whereas Protestantism is a mixture of Saturn and Mercury, wouldn't you say? Would Islam be Mars or Pluto? Buddhism is obviously Venusian. Zorastrianism is probably Mercury. Hinduism and Mormonism I haven't figured out yet. The latter could have Saturnian influences. Wicca is obviousy lunar as is probably the Anglican church.--[[User:Jeanne boleyn|jeanne]] ([[User talk:Jeanne boleyn|talk]]) 11:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

I am not proficient in religions and especially in the forms of Christianity, although I would say of Islam that it may well be somewhat Neptunian, but in a more Plutonian fashion. The word "Islam" means "submission" (to God) which is a rather Neptunian thing, however its extreme inclinations, obsessiveness and sentimental-ruinous overreaction is also Plutonian. --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.#top|talk]]) 18:38, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
::I have had a look at Israel's chart. Sun in Taurus, Moon in Leo, Libra rising. Mars in 11th house (danger from friends), and Neptune in the 12th but close to the ascendant(Holocaust). Capricorn on cusp of the 4th house. (The Jews are said to be ruled by Capricorn). Very interesting. Israel needs to worry about Leonian countries.--[[User:Jeanne boleyn|jeanne]] ([[User talk:Jeanne boleyn|talk]]) 05:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

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