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Robert Pelton Sibley

Non-notable academic; fails to meet the general criteria in WP:N or those specific guidelines in WP:PROF. The article has a number of references, however these are not reliable sources for notability. The obituary in the N Y Times is not accessible on the web, however simply being given an obituary does not establish notability. Springnuts (talk) 18:30, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. —John Z (talk) 19:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Keep. Being written about in The New York Times, even in the form of an obituary, counts as coverage in reliable sources. There are probably some references available only in print for this academic. -- Eastmain (talk) 21:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Without the source being available it is hard to say it is evidence of WP:N - the article quotes "become known as a specialist in American fiction" which is way short of the WP:PROF standards. Springnuts (talk) 21:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Is it also short of WP:BIO? --Crusio (talk) 22:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

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+===[[Robert Pelton Sibley]]===
-The US '''Southeast''' is the eastern portion of the [[Southern United States]], but the [[Census Bureau]] does not provide a standard definition of a "Southeast" region of the [[United States]], and organizations that need to subdivide the US are free to define a "Southeast" region to fit their needs. [http://images.google.com/images?q=southeastern+united+states&btnG=Search+Images&hl=en&sa=2] However, [[Georgia (U.S. state)|Georgia]] is almost always included, [[Texas]] is almost never included, and inclusion of other states varies.
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+:{{la|Robert Pelton Sibley}} (<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Robert Pelton Sibley|wpReason={{urlencode: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Pelton Sibley]]}}&action=delete}} delete]</span>) – <includeonly>([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Pelton Sibley|View AfD]])</includeonly><noinclude>([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2008 October 12#{{anchorencode:Robert Pelton Sibley}}|View log]])</noinclude>
-[[Atlanta]] is the central [[metropolis]] of the Southeast [http://www.metroatlantachamber.com/macoc/business/img/alookatatlanta.pdf] [http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0033-0124.1989.00162.x?cookieSet=1&journalCode=prog]  , and the Southeast roughly corresponds to an area with Atlanta centrally located, with [[Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport|Hartsfield]] as the region's [[airline hub]].  Much of [[Virginia]] is associated with the [[Washington Metropolitan Area|Washington]], [[Richmond, Virginia|Richmond]] or [[Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC MSA|Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News]] metropolitan areas.  A portion of the latter extends into [[North Carolina]].
+Non-notable academic; fails to meet the general criteria in [[WP:N]] or those specific guidelines in [[WP:PROF]].  The article has a number of references, however these are not [[WP:RS|reliable]] sources for notability.  The obituary  in the N Y Times is not accessible on the web, however simply being given an obituary does not establish notability. [[User:Springnuts|Springnuts]] ([[User talk:Springnuts|talk]]) 18:30, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
+*<small>'''Note''':  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Academics and educators|list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions]].  </small><small>—[[User:John Z|John Z]] ([[User talk:John Z|talk]]) 19:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)</small>
-The region boasts a number of prominent universities, with several large research universities of longstanding significance (such as [[James Madison University]], [[University of Virginia]], [[Virginia Commonwealth University]], [[Virginia Tech]], [[University of Maryland, College Park|University of Maryland]], [[Georgetown University]],[[UNC Chapel Hill]], [[Florida International University]], [[University of South Florida]], [[Florida State University]], [[University of Florida]], [[Furman University]], [[University of Georgia]], [[Emory University]], [[Vanderbilt University]], [[University of Tennessee]], [[Duke University]], [[Wake Forest University]], [[Medical College of Georgia]], [[Auburn University]], [[University of Alabama]],  [[University of Mississippi]], [[Louisiana State University]], [[Tulane]], [[University of Alabama Birmingham]], [[University of Miami]], [[Medical University of South Carolina]], [[North Carolina State University]], [[Clemson University]], [[University of South Carolina]] and [[Georgia Institute of Technology]]) exerting an influence beyond the region.{{Dubious|Prominent universities|date=September 2008}}
+*'''Keep'''. Being written about in The New York Times, even in the form of an obituary, counts as coverage in reliable sources. There are probably some references available only in print for this academic. -- [[User:Eastmain|Eastmain]] ([[User talk:Eastmain|talk]]) 21:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
+:Without the source being available it is hard to say it is evidence of [[WP:N]] - the article quotes "become known as a specialist in American fiction" which is way short of the [[WP:PROF]] standards. [[User:Springnuts|Springnuts]] ([[User talk:Springnuts|talk]]) 21:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
-[[Research Triangle Park]], in the [[The Triangle (North Carolina)|Raleigh-Durham]] urban area of North Carolina has emerged (over a nearly 50-year existence) as a major hub of technology, governmental and biotechnological research and development, as has the [http://www.vabiotech.com Virginia BioTechnology Research Park] in [[Richmond, Virginia|Richmond]]. The [[Cummings Research Park]] in the [[Huntsville, Alabama]] area is the second largest research complex in the nation.  It is one of the biggest areas of aerospace engineering and missile defense technology.{{Fact|date=September 2008}} The [[National High Magnetic Field Laboratory]] in [[Tallahassee, Florida]] is the largest laboratory in the world devoted to the study of magnetism.{{Fact|date=September 2008}} The [[University of South Carolina]] is currently constructing a research campus in downtown [[Columbia, South Carolina|Columbia]], and the University is the nation’s only [[National Science Foundation]]-funded Industry/University Cooperative Research Center for Fuel Cells.<ref>http://innovista.sc.edu/research/future_fuels.aspx</ref>
+::*Is it also short of [[WP:BIO]]? --[[User:Crusio|Crusio]] ([[User talk:Crusio|talk]]) 22:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
-==Examples of definitions of the Southeast==
-{| class="wikitable"
-!Defining organization!!GA!!FL!!SC!!AL!!NC!!VA<br>DC!!TN!!MS!!KY!!AR!!LA!!WV
-|-
-|[[Southeast High Speed Rail Corridor]]||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || || || || || ||
-|-
-|[[Southeast Division (NHL)]]||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || || || || || ||
-|-
-|[[Atlantic Coast Conference]]||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || || || || || ||
-|-
-|[[Southeast Division (NBA)]]||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || || ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || || || || || ||
-|-
-|[[I-85 Corridor]]|| style="background:#000"| || ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || || || || || ||
-|-
-|[[Southeast Conservative Baptist]]|| ||style="background:#000"|  ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || || || || ||style="background:#000"| || || ||
-|-
-|[[Southeast Conference, United Church of Christ|Southeast Conference, UCC]]||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#888"|<small>part</small> ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#888"|<small>part</small> || || ||style="background:#888"|<small>part</small>  ||style="background:#000"| || || || ||
-|-
-|[http://www.metroatlantachamber.com/macoc/business/img/alookatatlanta.pdf A Look At Atlanta] p. 6||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || || || ||
-|-
-|[[Southeastern Conference]]||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || || ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||
-|-
-|[[BellSouth Telecommunications]]||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || ||
-|-
-|[[Veterans Administration]] [http://www1.va.gov/directory/guide/division_flsh.asp?dnum=3]||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || || || style="background:#000"|
-|-
-|[[Atlanta Journal Constitution]] [http://www.ajc.com/travel/content/travel/southeast/index.html]||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || || style="background:#000"|
-|-
-|[[Southeast Tourism Society]] [http://www.southeasttourism.org/]||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"|
-|-
-|[[Comcast/Charter Sports Southeast]]||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"|
-<!--
-|-
-|[[U.S. Department of State]] [http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itsv/0606/ijse/south.htm]||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| || style="background:#000"|
--->
-|-
-|[[Bureau of Economic Analysis]] [http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/regional/gdp_state/2006/gsp0606.htm]||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"| ||style="background:#000"|
-|-
-|}
-==Largest Cities==
-<!---Do NOT CHANGE TO ANY FIGURES OR NUMBERS NOT MATCHING US CENSUS BUREAU.  EDITS WILL BE REVERTED.--->
-These are the ten largest cities in the Southeastern region of the United States by population according to [[United States Census Bureau]] on [[2006-07-01]]:<ref name=PopEstBigCities>{{cite web | url = http://www.census.gov/popest/cities/tables/SUB-EST2006-01.csv | title = Table 1: Annual Estimates of the Population for Incorporated Places Over 100,000, Ranked by July 1, 2006 Population: April 1, 2000 to July 1, 2006 | format = [[comma-separated values|CSV]] | work = 2005 Population Estimates | publisher = [[United States Census Bureau]], Population Division | date = [[2007-06-28]] | accessdate = 2007-06-28 }}</ref>.
-{| class="wikitable sortable"
-! Rank
-! City
-! State
-! Population
-|-
-| align=center | 1
-| [[Jacksonville, Florida|Jacksonville]]
-| [[Florida]]
-| align=right | {{Nts|794555}}
-|-
-| align=center | 2
-| [[Memphis, Tennessee|Memphis]]
-| [[Tennessee]]
-| align=right | {{Nts|670902}}
-|-
-| align=center | 3
-| [[Charlotte, North Carolina|Charlotte]]
-| [[North Carolina]]
-| align=right | {{Nts|630478}}
-|-
-| align=center | 4
-| [[Nashville-Davidson (balance), Tennessee|Nashville]]{{Cref|a}}
-| [[Tennessee]]
-| align=right | {{Nts|590,807}}
-|-
-| align=center | 5
-| [[Louisville-Jefferson County (balance), Kentucky|Louisville]]{{Cref|a}}
-| [[Kentucky]]
-| align=right | {{Nts|558,541}}
-|-
-| align=center | 6
-| [[Atlanta, Georgia|Atlanta]]
-| [[Georgia (U.S. state)|Georgia]]
-| align=right | {{Nts|486411}}
-|-
-| align=center | 7
-| [[Miami, Florida|Miami]]
-| [[Florida]]
-| align=right | {{Nts|404048}}
-|-
-| align=center | 8
-| [[Raleigh, North Carolina|Raleigh]]
-| [[North Carolina]]
-| align=right | {{Nts|356321}}
-|-
-| align=center | 9
-| [[Tampa, Florida|Tampa]]
-| [[Florida]]
-| align=right | {{Nts|332888}}
-|-
-| align=center | 10
-| [[Lexington, Kentucky|Lexington]]
-| [[Kentucky]]
-| align=right | {{Nts|270789}}
-|}
-*{{Cnote|a| [[Louisville, Kentucky|Louisville]] and [[Nashville, Tennessee|Nashville]], are [[consolidated city-county|consolidated city-counties]]; the population given is for the entire city excluding other [[incorporation (municipal government)|incorporated]] places lying within the county limits.}}
-==Largest metropolitan areas==
-[http://www.mi.vt.edu/uploads/megacensusreport.pdf Beyond Megalopolis] by [[Virginia Tech]]'s Metropolitan Institute, an attempt to update [[Jean Gottmann]]'s work with current trends, defines two "[[megapolitan area]]s" contained within the Southeast, out of a total of ten such areas in the [[United States]]:
-*"Piedmont" centered on Atlanta and extending from North Carolina to Alabama
-*"Peninsula" covering [[South Florida]] and [[Central Florida]]
-Two others tie some areas on the margins of the Southeast to urban centers in other regions:
-*"Gulf Coast" extending as far east as the western tip of Florida
-*"Northeast" including much of eastern Virginia
-{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:right; margin-left:60px"
-|-
-! Rank !! align=center |Metropolitan Area !! Population !! State(s)
-|-
-|-
-| 1 ||align=left | [[South Florida metropolitan area|Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach]] || '''5,422,200 ''' || [[Florida]]
-|-
-| 2 ||align=left | [[Washington Metropolitan Area|Washington-Arlington-Alexandria]] || '''5,290,400''' || [[Virginia]] / [[District of Columbia]] / [[Maryland]] / [[West Virginia]]
-|-
-| 3 ||align=left | [[Atlanta metropolitan area|Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta]] || '''5,249,121''' || [[Georgia (U.S. state)|Georgia]]
-|-
-| 4 ||align=left | [[Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, Florida, Metropolitan Statistical Area|Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater]] || '''2,589,637''' || [[Florida]]
-|-
-| 5 ||align=left | [[Charlotte metropolitan area|Charlotte-Gastonia-Salisbury]] || '''2,191,604''' || [[North Carolina]] / [[South Carolina]]
-|-
-| 6 ||align=left | [[Orlando-Kissimmee, Florida, Metropolitan Statistical Area|Orlando-Kissimmee]] || '''1,997,437''' || [[Florida]]
-|-
-| 7 ||align=left | [[Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC MSA|Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News]] || '''1,700,000''' || [[Virginia]] / [[North Carolina]]
-|-
-| 8 ||align=left | [[The Triad (North Carolina)|Winston-Salem-Greensboro-High Point]] || '''1,535,926''' || [[North Carolina]]
-|-
-| 9 ||align=left | [[Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro, TN Metropolitan Statistical Area|Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro]]
-|| '''1,498,836''' || [[Tennessee]]
-|-
-| 10 ||align=left | [[The Triangle (North Carolina)|Raleigh-Durham]] || '''1,467,434''' || [[North Carolina]]
-|-
-| 11 ||align=left | [[Jacksonville, FL|Jacksonville]] || '''1,348,381''' || [[Florida]]
-|-
-| 12 ||align=left | [[Memphis Metropolitan Area|Memphis]] || '''1,260,905''' || [[Tennessee]]/[[Mississippi]]/[[Arkansas]]
-|-
-| 13 ||align=left | [[Louisville-Jefferson County, KY-IN Metropolitan Statistical Area|Louisville-Jefferson County]] || '''1,245,920''' || [[Kentucky]]
-|-
-| 14 ||align=left | [[Greenville, SC|Greenville]]-[[Spartanburg, SC|Spartanburg]]-[[Anderson, SC|Anderson]] || '''1,203,795''' || [[South Carolina]]
-|-
-| 15 ||align=left | [[Richmond, Virginia|Richmond]] || '''1,194,008''' || [[Virginia]]
-|}
-==References==
-*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=N_DPRvH2QMk Britannica Southeast U.S. video on Youtube]
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