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'''Cerf Island''' (1.27 km²) lies 4 km off the north coast of [[Mahé, Seychelles|Mahé]] in the [[Seychelles]]. Cerf Island measures more than 1.5 km long (about 1 mile) and almost 1 km wide (almost ¾ of a mile), it reaches a height of 108 m (357 feet). The island is surrounded by a coral reef and the geology is granitic.
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Cerf Island was named after the French navy frégate “Le Cerf” which arrived at Port Victoria on 1 November 1756. On board was Corneille Nicholas Morphey, leader of the French expedition, which claimed the island by laying a Stone of Possession on Mahe, Seychelles’ oldest monument, now on display in the National Museum, Victoria.
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Cerf Island is the only island in the marine park to have a small local population who commute to Mahé for their daily business. It has a local population of around 100, mostly centered in one bay on the South side of the island, many who make the short commute by boat to Mahé for work.
== A featured pic hat trick ==


Well-known residents include the celebrated South African novelist [[Wilbur Smith]], writer, explorer and treasure hunter William "Bill" Travis and yacht designer Phil Southwell. UK writers and artists [[Ralph Lazar]] and [[Lisa Swerling]] took creative sabbatical on the island in 1998, where they created the cult cartoon [[Harold's Planet]]. The island also has a small art gallery and a chapel.
I see we have one of the pictures from [[crepuscular rays]] on the Main Page today. I'm not sure we had them on the Main Page at the time but both [[:Image:Crepuscular rays color.jpg|this crep-ray pic]] and [[:Image:Crepuscular ray sunset from telstra tower edit.jpg|this one]] have been on Picture of the Day as well, making it possibly (and understandably, given how tempting they are as a subject when you see them and have a camera in hand) the only subject to be represented by three Pictures of the Day. Good work! [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 01:56, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


The island lies in the [[Ste Anne Marine National Park]] and is surrounded by a [[coral reef]]. The geology is grantitic, with a maximum height above sea level of 357 feet. There are two hotels, a guest lodge, three restaurants, a spa and a beach bar. There are no paved roads or local infrastructure on the island; travel to-and-from the island is by boat and by helicopter which lands at the heli pad at [http://www.cerf-resort.com/ Cerf Island Resort Seychelles].
== NRL grand final ==


Due to Cerf Island’s location, in a National Marine Park, the waters around Cerf Island prove a spectacular sight. The deepest point of the Marine Park is 250 meters (820 feet) and the Park offers exceptional marine life, with more than 150 species of reef fish, crabs, sea urchins, starfish, octopus and many more. Cerf Island is home to the fruit bat and giant tortoises. On the north side of the island are superb coral reefs. Here giant tortoises swim with clown fish.
How is the result of the NRL grand final worthy of a position in the 'In the news' section? Shouldn't this be about events of global, or at least national significance? The NRL grand final is neither. I call for it to be removed. [[User:Suicup|Suicup]] ([[User talk:Suicup|talk]]) 00:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:It's not from the U.S. so it made it. WTF. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">Howard</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">the</font>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">Duck</font>]]''' 02:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
::That "news" is completely irrelevant to most of the world (ie non NRL watching Australians). It's neatly sandwiched between topics of greater notability, say the Nobel prize (HIV) and the arguably the world's biggest economic crisis. The contrast in notability is very clear. Whilst it has an article, it is not main page material. [[Special:Contributions/129.78.149.91|129.78.149.91]] ([[User talk:129.78.149.91|talk]]) 06:42, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I've removed it. [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 06:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Personally, I think that was a mistake. We routinely list the championship games of major sporting finals, very few of which are of global importance. Just because it was Australia rather than North America or Western Europe hardly means it is less notable. [[User:Resolute|Reso]][[User Talk:Resolute|lute]] 01:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Lemme make it clear that ITN only calls for "''international'' importance or ''interest''," not global importance/significance. Otherwise there'll be a dearth of items eligible for ITN. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">Howard</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">the</font>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">Duck</font>]]''' 05:16, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Any further discussion should take place either at [[WP:ITN/C]] or [[WT:ITN]] [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 19:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


There are no shops, roads or local infrastructure but water, telephone and electricity is provided from the mainland Mahe. Diving centres are plentiful on the main island and snorkelling equipment is available for hire on Cerf Island at the hotels.
== Main Page redesign proposal ==


Some properties on the island suffered minor damage by the [[Indian Ocean Earthquake]] (tsunami) of 2004.
Hi Main Pagers! You'll be aware of the [[Wikipedia:2008_main_page_redesign_proposal|Main Page redesign proposal currently under discussion]]; it would be fantastic if you could take a moment to review and comment on both [[Wikipedia:2008_main_page_redesign_proposal/Pretzels|my personal proposal]], and the others too. We really need your opinion and advice to keep the project moving. All the best -- [[User:Pretzels|'''P<span style="font-size:0.9em;">retzels</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Pretzels|Talk!]]</sup> 15:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


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:Please see [[Wikipedia:Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It|WP:ABDFI]] --[[Special:Contributions/58.108.70.161|58.108.70.161]] ([[User talk:58.108.70.161|talk]]) 04:54, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


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Whoa! That was meant to be a joke, I didn't realize there was an actual policy named that. --[[Special:Contributions/220.236.59.243|220.236.59.243]] ([[User talk:220.236.59.243|talk]]) 14:09, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


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: It's actually an essay ("just an opinion"), although one that enjoys wide recognition and support. [[User:The Duke of Waltham|Waltham]], <small>[[User talk:The Duke of Waltham|''The Duke of'']]</small> 22:48, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
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== Bravo 2 wikipedia for today's front page (12 Oct) ==

(Not sure where to put this so apologies if in the wrong place but...) well done to Wikipedia for chosing a geography issue and especially one about an important UK urban area. Not sure if these are chosen randomly but as someone who is fascinated by articles like this may I simply offer some cheers for whoever/however it was chosen for the front page feature. :-) Signed mapmark 12 Oct 2008 <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Mapmark|Mapmark]] ([[User talk:Mapmark|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mapmark|contribs]]) 11:26, 12 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Featured sounds on the main page ==

I believe it's time to move forwards with adding featured sounds to the main page. There are 98 featured sound files, representing 65 distinct compositions (symphonies and such can contain multiple files because of the various movements) Our statistics are reasonably good, with about a dozen per month in the last three months, and October looking good for a strong increase on that.

And, of course, the greater visibility can reasonably be presumed to attract more people to Featured sounds, increasing these numbers.

This will need some set-up time, of course, so I'd suggest that we start by putting in featured sounds in place of the weekend featured pictures in, say, November or December (I have discussed such a move with Howcheng) and plan on starting a daily run of featured sounds in the new year.
[[User:Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday|Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday]] ([[User talk:Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday|talk]]) 14:40, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
: What about "featured media" - which would basically be featured sound or video, rather than a picture? [[User:Garden|<font color=#cc3333>'''Garden'''</font>]]. 16:26, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::I agree with Garden. That sounds a great idea. [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]]) 16:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::I agree with the above editors—given the relative scarcity of featured sounds (which is not a comment on the quality of the selections, of course) and the scarcity of space on the Main Page, folding featured sounds into the current "featured image" selection and calling it "featured media" is probably the way to go. If this is done, the first sound selection needs to be chosen very carefully as a useful introduction to the concept, so I'd advise not going forward until you have a specific selection in mind for it. Of course, that's true even if it's not folded into the featured images, too. <span style="white-space:nowrap">— [[User:Gavia immer|Gavia immer]] ([[User talk:Gavia immer|talk]])</span> 17:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::[[:Image:01 - Vivaldi Spring mvt 1 Allegro - John Harrison violin.ogg|This]] seems rather appropriate to kick it off with - an extremely good quality recording of a song everyone already knows. [[User:Raul654|Raul654]] ([[User talk:Raul654|talk]]) 17:22, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:I believe, though, that Featured Pictures is already quite a bit behind. I wouldnt mind blending sounds with video, to take some of the load off FPs, but to add sounds permanently to FPs is just going to push things further and further behind. [[User:Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday|Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday]] ([[User talk:Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday|talk]]) 17:58, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I'll '''support''' a rename of "Featured Picture" to "Featured Media" and the inclusion of sounds, but only if one sound is chosen per composition (such as the first movement of la primavera) for now. '''[[User:Firefoxman|ff]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:Firefoxman|m]]</font>''' 23:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:I was thinking that, as sounds don't take a lot of space, we could probably fit three or four in without too much trouble. That's enough for all but the longest compositions, and for those, we could probably sample or edit them together into fewer files, or the like. In any case, the multi-part sounds are a distinct minority. [[User:Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday|Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday]] ([[User talk:Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday|talk]]) 09:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

== Saudi: Home to world’s tallest building ==

Saudi billionaire Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal says he will build the world's tallest building in Jeddah. Kingdom Holding Co, says the building will be more than a kilometre high and will be part of a larger project that will cost $32 billion Cdn. [http://www.exchange4projects.com/REALEST/saudi-home-to-worlds-tallest-building

] <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Megha1986|Megha1986]] ([[User talk:Megha1986|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Megha1986|contribs]]) 11:14, 13 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


==In the news==
It says "The British Government announces details of a financial rescue package aimed at stabilizing and restoring confidence in the British banking sector." Stabilising is spelled in American English as opposed to the British English, if its about the British government, shouldn't we use British English and use a "S" not a "Z". This only makes sense. There are non-American users on wikipedia, therefore we should reflect everyone. [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson]] ([[User talk:Ijanderson977|talk]]) 11:24, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

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Cerf Island (1.27 km²) lies 4 km off the north coast of Mahé in the Seychelles. Cerf Island measures more than 1.5 km long (about 1 mile) and almost 1 km wide (almost ¾ of a mile), it reaches a height of 108 m (357 feet). The island is surrounded by a coral reef and the geology is granitic.

Cerf Island was named after the French navy frégate “Le Cerf” which arrived at Port Victoria on 1 November 1756. On board was Corneille Nicholas Morphey, leader of the French expedition, which claimed the island by laying a Stone of Possession on Mahe, Seychelles’ oldest monument, now on display in the National Museum, Victoria.

Cerf Island is the only island in the marine park to have a small local population who commute to Mahé for their daily business. It has a local population of around 100, mostly centered in one bay on the South side of the island, many who make the short commute by boat to Mahé for work.

Well-known residents include the celebrated South African novelist Wilbur Smith, writer, explorer and treasure hunter William "Bill" Travis and yacht designer Phil Southwell. UK writers and artists Ralph Lazar and Lisa Swerling took creative sabbatical on the island in 1998, where they created the cult cartoon Harold's Planet. The island also has a small art gallery and a chapel.

The island lies in the Ste Anne Marine National Park and is surrounded by a coral reef. The geology is grantitic, with a maximum height above sea level of 357 feet. There are two hotels, a guest lodge, three restaurants, a spa and a beach bar. There are no paved roads or local infrastructure on the island; travel to-and-from the island is by boat and by helicopter which lands at the heli pad at Cerf Island Resort Seychelles.

Due to Cerf Island’s location, in a National Marine Park, the waters around Cerf Island prove a spectacular sight. The deepest point of the Marine Park is 250 meters (820 feet) and the Park offers exceptional marine life, with more than 150 species of reef fish, crabs, sea urchins, starfish, octopus and many more. Cerf Island is home to the fruit bat and giant tortoises. On the north side of the island are superb coral reefs. Here giant tortoises swim with clown fish.

There are no shops, roads or local infrastructure but water, telephone and electricity is provided from the mainland Mahe. Diving centres are plentiful on the main island and snorkelling equipment is available for hire on Cerf Island at the hotels.

Some properties on the island suffered minor damage by the Indian Ocean Earthquake (tsunami) of 2004.