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== Viking heritage of the Rurik dynasty == |
== Viking heritage of the Rurik dynasty == |
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The Rurik dynasty's Viking heritage, alluded to here, is a topic of substantial controversy amongst Russian historians. I am not qualified to speak out on the subject but a professional historian of Russia should craft a more nuanced and informed statement on the subject. |
The Rurik dynasty's Viking heritage, alluded to here, is a topic of substantial controversy amongst Russian historians. I am not qualified to speak out on the subject but a professional historian of Russia should craft a more nuanced and informed statement on the subject. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/84.53.198.50|84.53.198.50]] ([[User talk:84.53.198.50#top|talk]]) 06:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)</small> |
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== Viking Age in Estonia == |
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:Rurik heritage here is completelly ignored, because it does not fit the narrative about Vikings, that came from Scandinavia and had Scandinavian heritage. |
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[[Viking Age in Estonia]] is an official historical period. How should it be included in this article? A separate subheadline? [[User:Blomsterhagens|Blomsterhagens]] ([[User talk:Blomsterhagens|talk]]) 09:43, 17 April 2019 (UTC) |
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:This whole article about vikings paint the picture, that only Scandinavians were doing viking things, while it seems, that in Baltic Sea everyone capable of seafaring were doing that. |
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:No. If you have good useable sources why not incorporate it in the article? Sorry for being late, but I guess this is still a relevant issue? [[User:RhinoMind|RhinoMind]] ([[User talk:RhinoMind|talk]]) 18:57, 17 September 2019 (UTC) |
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:There is no controvery among Russian historians - 30 years ago they already had very clear understanding of joint Viking-Prussian component(from eastern Baltic Sea), that was the basis of formation of Novgorod. The controversy about Viking Rus heritage is only among uneducated morons. |
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:{{u|Blomsterhagens}}, See [[Wikipedia:Summary style]]. [[User:Philoserf|—¿philoserf?]] ([[User talk:Philoserf|talk]]) 19:58, 29 May 2020 (UTC) |
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:With Rus it seems, that they were local people, that were vikingized - similarly how it happened in Ireland, where vikings were few and over time assimilated into local culture. [[User:GrimDawn|GrimDawn]] ([[User talk:GrimDawn|talk]]) 13:55, 15 September 2023 (UTC) |
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== Added Legacy section == |
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Hi, and I probably did lots of newbie mistakes, like the font sizes of the subsections (Settlements and English Language). The text in the "Scandinavia" section is also very short ... I was considering including "Genetics" in the Legacy section, but I'm not sure if that is correct. |
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: PS: I also removed Dorestad from the list of Baltic trading stations. |
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: PPS: I also streamlined the wording in the leidang passage (under "Technology"). |
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:T [[Special:Contributions/85.166.161.28|85.166.161.28]] ([[User talk:85.166.161.28|talk]]) 09:38, 29 January 2020 (UTC) |
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== New findings to re-define years range of the Viking Age == |
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:: Hi, the section "Legacy" is tagged as empty; from my POV that is mainly a typographical issue, as the following sections (History of Scandinavia, Colonies, English loanwords from Norse) were originally conceived as sub-headings - i.e. content - of the "Legacy" section, whereas now they appear as independent sections. T [[Special:Contributions/84.208.86.134|84.208.86.134]] ([[User talk:84.208.86.134|talk]]) 01:26, 5 March 2021 (UTC) |
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::: Hi, alternatively, in order to avoid duplication, the content of the Legacy section could consist of a "See also" type link list, including e.g Viking Art and similar articles. Idk if there is a Viking Portal, or something similar, where one can find all Viking (legacy) related articles. T [[Special:Contributions/84.208.86.134|84.208.86.134]] ([[User talk:84.208.86.134|talk]]) 19:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC) |
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[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0278416519301278 Sciencedirect] and other sources have published research on [[Salme ships|Salme ship burials]] of Vikings that move initial date back 50-100 more years to year 700-750. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->[[User:D72|D72]] ([[User talk:D72|talk]]) 09:20, 17 December 2021 (UTC) |
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== Viking Rule == |
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==Wiki Education assignment: HUM 202 - Introduction to Mythology== |
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"Harold Harefoot became king of England after Cnut's death, and Viking rule of England ceased." Since Harefoot was Cnut's son, how is it that Viking rule of England ceased? [[User:Manannan67|Manannan67]] ([[User talk:Manannan67|talk]]) 03:56, 2 April 2020 (UTC) |
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== Historical backgorund and context == |
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What's the difference between the historical background and historical context sections? If they are redundant I suggest to merge them into a single section. [[User:Forich|Forich]] ([[User talk:Forich|talk]]) 17:25, 9 April 2021 (UTC) |
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: Hi, I'd say that the "Context" section covers what would otherwise be called "image" or "reception", i.e. the status of Vikings in historiography. The "Background" section is a very meagre and school essay-like sketch of some geographical and cultural traits of Scandinavia. It should be expanded, worked into the "reasons for" section or simply eliminated. The third Historic section, "Overview", looks like a "Timeline". T [[Special:Contributions/84.208.86.134|84.208.86.134]] ([[User talk:84.208.86.134|talk]]) 05:13, 15 April 2021 (UTC) |
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Viking heritage of the Rurik dynasty[edit]
The Rurik dynasty's Viking heritage, alluded to here, is a topic of substantial controversy amongst Russian historians. I am not qualified to speak out on the subject but a professional historian of Russia should craft a more nuanced and informed statement on the subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.53.198.50 (talk) 06:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
- Rurik heritage here is completelly ignored, because it does not fit the narrative about Vikings, that came from Scandinavia and had Scandinavian heritage.
- This whole article about vikings paint the picture, that only Scandinavians were doing viking things, while it seems, that in Baltic Sea everyone capable of seafaring were doing that.
- There is no controvery among Russian historians - 30 years ago they already had very clear understanding of joint Viking-Prussian component(from eastern Baltic Sea), that was the basis of formation of Novgorod. The controversy about Viking Rus heritage is only among uneducated morons.
- With Rus it seems, that they were local people, that were vikingized - similarly how it happened in Ireland, where vikings were few and over time assimilated into local culture. GrimDawn (talk) 13:55, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment[edit]
This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Jjacob10.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 12:25, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
New findings to re-define years range of the Viking Age[edit]
Sciencedirect and other sources have published research on Salme ship burials of Vikings that move initial date back 50-100 more years to year 700-750. — Preceding unsigned comment added by D72 (talk) 09:20, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: HUM 202 - Introduction to Mythology[edit]
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 14 August 2023 and 8 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Nursing202 (article contribs).
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