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== Viking heritage of the Rurik dynasty ==
== Viking heritage of the Rurik dynasty ==


The Rurik dynasty's Viking heritage, alluded to here, is a topic of substantial controversy amongst Russian historians. I am not qualified to speak out on the subject but a professional historian of Russia should craft a more nuanced and informed statement on the subject.
The Rurik dynasty's Viking heritage, alluded to here, is a topic of substantial controversy amongst Russian historians. I am not qualified to speak out on the subject but a professional historian of Russia should craft a more nuanced and informed statement on the subject. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/84.53.198.50|84.53.198.50]] ([[User talk:84.53.198.50#top|talk]]) 06:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)</small>


:Rurik heritage here is completelly ignored, because it does not fit the narrative about Vikings, that came from Scandinavia and had Scandinavian heritage.
== Added Legacy section ==
:This whole article about vikings paint the picture, that only Scandinavians were doing viking things, while it seems, that in Baltic Sea everyone capable of seafaring were doing that.
:There is no controvery among Russian historians - 30 years ago they already had very clear understanding of joint Viking-Prussian component(from eastern Baltic Sea), that was the basis of formation of Novgorod. The controversy about Viking Rus heritage is only among uneducated morons.
:With Rus it seems, that they were local people, that were vikingized - similarly how it happened in Ireland, where vikings were few and over time assimilated into local culture. [[User:GrimDawn|GrimDawn]] ([[User talk:GrimDawn|talk]]) 13:55, 15 September 2023 (UTC)


==Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment==
Hi, and I probably did lots of newbie mistakes, like the font sizes of the subsections (Settlements and English Language). The text in the "Scandinavia" section is also very short ... I was considering including "Genetics" in the Legacy section, but I'm not sure if that is correct.
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: PS: I also removed Dorestad from the list of Baltic trading stations.
: PPS: I also streamlined the wording in the leidang passage (under "Technology").
:T [[Special:Contributions/85.166.161.28|85.166.161.28]] ([[User talk:85.166.161.28|talk]]) 09:38, 29 January 2020 (UTC)


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:: Hi, the section "Legacy" is tagged as empty; from my POV that is mainly a typographical issue, as the following sections (History of Scandinavia, Colonies, English loanwords from Norse) were originally conceived as sub-headings - i.e. content - of the "Legacy" section, whereas now they appear as independent sections. T [[Special:Contributions/84.208.86.134|84.208.86.134]] ([[User talk:84.208.86.134|talk]]) 01:26, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
::: Hi, alternatively, in order to avoid duplication, the content of the Legacy section could consist of a "See also" type link list, including e.g Viking Art and similar articles. Idk if there is a Viking Portal, or something similar, where one can find all Viking (legacy) related articles. T [[Special:Contributions/84.208.86.134|84.208.86.134]] ([[User talk:84.208.86.134|talk]]) 19:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

== Historical backgorund and context ==
What's the difference between the historical background and historical context sections? If they are redundant I suggest to merge them into a single section. [[User:Forich|Forich]] ([[User talk:Forich|talk]]) 17:25, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
: Hi, I'd say that the "Context" section covers what would otherwise be called "image" or "reception", i.e. the status of Vikings in historiography. The "Background" section is a very meagre and school essay-like sketch of some geographical and cultural traits of Scandinavia. It should be expanded, worked into the "reasons for" section or simply eliminated. The third Historic section, "Overview", looks like a "Timeline". T [[Special:Contributions/84.208.86.134|84.208.86.134]] ([[User talk:84.208.86.134|talk]]) 05:13, 15 April 2021 (UTC)


== New findings to re-define years range of the Viking Age ==
== New findings to re-define years range of the Viking Age ==


[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0278416519301278 Sciencedirect] and other sources have published research on [[Salme ships|Salme ship burials]] of Vikings that move initial date back 50-100 more years to year 700-750. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->[[User:D72|D72]] ([[User talk:D72|talk]]) 09:20, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0278416519301278 Sciencedirect] and other sources have published research on [[Salme ships|Salme ship burials]] of Vikings that move initial date back 50-100 more years to year 700-750. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->[[User:D72|D72]] ([[User talk:D72|talk]]) 09:20, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

==Wiki Education assignment: HUM 202 - Introduction to Mythology==
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Viking heritage of the Rurik dynasty[edit]

The Rurik dynasty's Viking heritage, alluded to here, is a topic of substantial controversy amongst Russian historians. I am not qualified to speak out on the subject but a professional historian of Russia should craft a more nuanced and informed statement on the subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.53.198.50 (talk) 06:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rurik heritage here is completelly ignored, because it does not fit the narrative about Vikings, that came from Scandinavia and had Scandinavian heritage.
This whole article about vikings paint the picture, that only Scandinavians were doing viking things, while it seems, that in Baltic Sea everyone capable of seafaring were doing that.
There is no controvery among Russian historians - 30 years ago they already had very clear understanding of joint Viking-Prussian component(from eastern Baltic Sea), that was the basis of formation of Novgorod. The controversy about Viking Rus heritage is only among uneducated morons.
With Rus it seems, that they were local people, that were vikingized - similarly how it happened in Ireland, where vikings were few and over time assimilated into local culture. GrimDawn (talk) 13:55, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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New findings to re-define years range of the Viking Age[edit]

Sciencedirect and other sources have published research on Salme ship burials of Vikings that move initial date back 50-100 more years to year 700-750. — Preceding unsigned comment added by D72 (talk) 09:20, 17 December 2021 (UTC) [reply]

Wiki Education assignment: HUM 202 - Introduction to Mythology[edit]

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