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= May 22 =
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== Template dagger malfunctioning ==
= October 8 =
{{discussion top|Closing this discussion since it's redundant to the same question asked by the same person 20 minutes earlier at the Wikipedia Teahouse. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 01:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)}}
Immediate assistance required because [[template:dagger]] currently outing this {{dagger}}, [[User:Anoopspeaks|Anoop Bhatia]] ([[User talk:Anoopspeaks|talk]]) 01:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Anoopspeaks}} You just asked about this at [[:WP:THQ#Template dagger malfunctioning]]. There's no thing to ask the very same question on a different forum, particularly within 20 minutes of each other. Please be patient and wait for someone to repsond to your Teahouse question (some people already have). The world isn't going to end due to the dagger template malfunctioning, if it even is malfunctioning in the first place. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 01:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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== updation state president TAMILNADU G.SRINIVASAN NATIONAL PEOPLES PARTY FROM JUNE 21ST 2023 ==
== semi-protected... ==


updation state president TAMILNADU G.SRINIVASAN NATIONAL PEOPLES PARTY FROM JUNE 21ST 2023 [[Special:Contributions/120.60.117.218|120.60.117.218]] ([[User talk:120.60.117.218|talk]]) 05:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
I would like to add a few points to the entry for John McCain. This record is "semi-protected" and I would like access so I can add a few entries with references.
::Can you provide a published reliable source for the specific change you want to make? [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 05:18, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
:Hi IP user, I just wanted to point out that you should avoid typing in all caps as this can be perceived as yelling by other editors. [[User:Cocobb8|'''<span style="color:purple">Coco</span><span style="color:green">bb8</span>''']] (💬 [[User talk:Cocobb8|talk]] • ✏️ [[Special:Contributions/Cocobb8|contribs]]) 19:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


== Newcomer task ==


It appears that the “so called” Newcomer task is already a disaster in progress. Despite being a regular editor I had not heard of it until 17 May 2024, when I noticed a piece of text in [[Highway 1 (Queensland)]] had been removed and replaced with identical text, and with no explanation other than “Newcomer task” on 16 May 2024.
[[User:FMook|FMook]] ([[User talk:FMook|talk]]) 00:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC).


I asked the question “How can the removal of information be described as a newcomer task?”. I have since been accused of making an unreferenced removal. How can this occur, and just what is a “Newcomer task”?
:You already have access, actually. [[WP:AUTOCONFIRM|Autoconfirmed users]] can edit semi-protected pages. [[User:Someguy1221|Someguy1221]] ([[User talk:Someguy1221|talk]]) 00:19, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


When this is sorted out please tak a look at [[Abernethy Road]], where I asked a similar question and have not received any response. [[User:Downsize43|Downsize43]] ([[User talk:Downsize43|talk]]) 05:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
::Actually, it looks like FMook is 1 edit away from being autoconfirmed. So, they could make an edit elsewhere, become autoconfirmed, and then make the desired edits, or they can post on [[Talk:John McCain]], explaining what edits they want made, and can get consensus on them. [[User:ConMan|Confusing Manifestation]]<small>([[User talk:ConMan|Say hi!]])</small> 05:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


:{{ping|Downsize43}} Those "Newcomer task" tags link to [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Growth/Tools/Newcomer_Tasks this page] which should explain more thoroughly than I will be able to do here. Essentially, they are edits by new editors made to pages tagged as needing cleanup. It isn't an endorsement of the edit in any way, it is just intended to flag that the editor is new and was brought to that article rather than finding it on their own. [[User:Tollens|Tollens]] ([[User talk:Tollens|talk]]) 05:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
== Linking images from Wikimedia ==
::I'll additionally note that the edit of 15 May on [[Abernethy Road]] didn't remove text and then replace it with identical text, it instead added two citations. [[User:Tollens|Tollens]] ([[User talk:Tollens|talk]]) 05:24, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
:::Also on [[Highway 1 (Queensland)]], you may have been looking at the wrong diff. The edit flagged as a newcomer task did not remove any information – the edit removing information was another editor undoing the previous "newcomer task" edit because it was unsourced. [[User:Tollens|Tollens]] ([[User talk:Tollens|talk]]) 05:26, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
::::Hello, {{u|Downsize43}}. My first observation is that newcomers often make mistakes, and that is not surprising. I suggest that you read [[Wikipedia:Growth Team features]] which explains newcomer tasks in great detail. If you still have concerns, then [[Wikipedia talk:Growth Team features]] is probably the best place to discuss them. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 05:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::Finally found something on Archive 1. Hardly the best place for it. Urgently need to get it "out there" somewhere and let the world know. [[User:Downsize43|Downsize43]] ([[User talk:Downsize43|talk]]) 06:41, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::{{ping|Downsize43}} Both your descriptions of what happened in the newcomer task are incorrect so I wonder whether you know how diffs work. In the page history [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Highway_1_(Queensland)&action=history], click the "prev" link in the line tagged with "Newcomer task" to get [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Highway_1_(Queensland)&diff=prev&oldid=1224062206]. The left-hand side is before the edit and the right-hand side is after. The edit ''added'' this text: <code>The highway is part of the famous "Big Lap" on National Route 1</code>. A Google search shows it's correct but it was unsourced and maybe not important enough for the lead so somebody reverted it in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Highway_1_(Queensland)&diff=next&oldid=1224062206 this] edit. This time "Newcomer task" is on the left side which is before the edit so the removal is not itself the newcomer task. See more at [[Help:Diff]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 09:23, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::::{{ping|PrimeHunter}} Whichever way you look at it the fact remains that the replacement of the previously removed text has no reference, therefore it is entitled to be questioned or removed. I was merely questioning why there was no reference for the added “fact”. [[User:Downsize43|Downsize43]] ([[User talk:Downsize43|talk]]) 07:22, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


== Update New Description for Company Profile ==
Hi,


Hi Team,
I'm trying to include an image in an article I'm writing. I have successfully uploaded it to wikimedia, but I can't seem to get it to display in a wikipedia article. I cannot yet upload directly to wikipedia, as I'm not yet an established user. Can someone please help me out? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:LightHorseman1216|LightHorseman1216]] ([[User talk:LightHorseman1216|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LightHorseman1216|contribs]]) 02:37, 8 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


I want to update [[Godrej Properties]] current description. Could you please help me on this? [[Special:Contributions/182.78.53.202|182.78.53.202]] ([[User talk:182.78.53.202|talk]]) 06:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
:I'm guessing you're referring to [[:Image:Twilkinschfullht6.jpg]], which you uploaded to Wikimedia Commons? Have you read [[Wikipedia:Images]], [[Wikipedia:Extended image syntax]], or [[Wikipedia:Picture tutorial]]? Those pages should give you all the details you need, but if they're just not working please point out what you've tried, and what the result has been. [[User:ConMan|Confusing Manifestation]]<small>([[User talk:ConMan|Say hi!]])</small> 05:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


:It depends on what you want to say and whether there is a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] involved in some way with the company; see also [[WP:BOSS]]. It also has to be said that [[Godrej Properties]] may have difficulty meeting the [[WP:GNG|general notability guideline]] in its current form due to an excess of primary sourcing.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 07:06, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
== Heads of Governments ==


*182.78.53.202 is registered to Godrej Industries Ltd.[https://whois-referral.toolforge.org/gateway.py?lookup=true&ip=182.78.53.202]--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 08:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
How can i get a list of the names of presidents, kings, priministers , etc. of different countries? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/85.15.58.194|85.15.58.194]] ([[User talk:85.15.58.194|talk]]) 04:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:Is [[List of current heads of state and government]] what you're after?--[[User:A bit iffy|A bit iffy]] ([[User talk:A bit iffy|talk]]) 05:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
*On [[Talk:Godrej Properties]], make your edit request(s). Be sure to make it clear that you're an employee of the company that's the subject of the article. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 09:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
::At first I suspected this question was from [[Sarah Palin]], but then I realized she has staffers now to look that stuff up. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 19:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


== Uploading query ==
== Audio timing ==


Is it possible to make the audio start from a specific second? For example: an audio is 20 seconds long and I want it to start at second 13. Is it possible to do this? [[File:W!k.png|link=user:W!kipedista]][[File:Ips1.png|link=user talk:W!kipedista|29x29px]]<sup>[[File:Evolution-tasks2.png|link=Special:Contributions/W!kipedista|14x14px]][[File:Bruce The Deus sandbox icon.svg|link=user:W!kipedista/Sandbox|16x16px]]</sup> 14:07, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I have one general question about wiki. It is possible to uploud to wiki pdf or doc files? And if it so, will be fulltext search looking into these documents, too? Thank for your response. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Iowa00|Iowa00]] ([[User talk:Iowa00|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Iowa00|contribs]]) 09:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{ping|W!kipedista}} <code>|start=0:13</code>. See [[Wikipedia:Extended image syntax#Sound files]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 14:45, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks! [[File:W!k.png|link=user:W!kipedista]][[File:Ips1.png|link=user talk:W!kipedista|29x29px]]<sup>[[File:Evolution-tasks2.png|link=Special:Contributions/W!kipedista|14x14px]][[File:Bruce The Deus sandbox icon.svg|link=user:W!kipedista/Sandbox|16x16px]]</sup> 14:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


== correcting an error of fact in an article ==
:No— PDF and DOC files cannot be uploaded. Depending on the content, you may be able to upload then to [[Wikisource]] and use them as references. --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup></font></b> - </i> 11:50, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


In the article on Frederick Russell Burnham, in the "Mexico" section, it describes a presidential summit taking place in 1909. It lists a number of agencies providing security and includes the FBI. The FBI did not exist in 1909. [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C40:5800:4BD:7C19:89AF:F8E1:243E|2600:6C40:5800:4BD:7C19:89AF:F8E1:243E]] ([[User talk:2600:6C40:5800:4BD:7C19:89AF:F8E1:243E|talk]]) 15:53, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
== is this image up for deletion or not? ==


:Every article has a talk page, in this case [[Talk: Frederick Russell Burnham]], which is where discussion of article content should typically take place. Note that our article on the [[Federal Bureau of Investigation]] does not quite back up your own claim. [[Special:Contributions/57.140.16.48|57.140.16.48]] ([[User talk:57.140.16.48|talk]]) 16:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
i noticed on a number of pages on my watch list, a note had been added to ''Image:GlassPerscriptionRig.jpg'' that it was nominated for speedy deletion. i checked the history of the file, and a non-admin seemed to have made some changes but the notes are still there in the articles. i guess i'm just not clear on the csd process. the file shouldn't be deleted, and seems to have been nominated hastily based on a technicality. i've looked around at relevant articles and i'm still lost. how can i find out the current status of the file? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Coffee joe|Coffee joe]] ([[User talk:Coffee joe|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Coffee joe|contribs]]) 11:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The image is not going to be deleted. I've removed the notes from the articles. [[User talk:Algebraist|Algebraist]] 12:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


== Changing infobox to...? ==
== Want to know the synonyms of Logistics ==


So I'm in a bit of a conundrum here. I wanted to update [[Topps]] but apparently, it was acquired by [[Fanatics, Inc.|Fanatics]] in 2022. How would I go around changing it? Is it a subsidiary now? [[User:Kline|Kline]] • [[User talk:Kline|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kline|contribs]] 15:59, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Just provide me with the greek,latin,french,chinese,japanese,urdu,hindi,bengali words for "Logistics". <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/59.93.243.0|59.93.243.0]] ([[User talk:59.93.243.0|talk]]) 12:00, 8 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Have you tried the [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language|Language section]] of Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Reference desk|Reference Desk]]? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Language&action=edit&section=new&editintro=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/How_to_ask click here]. I hope this helps. [[Special:Contributions/Zain Ebrahim111|Zain Ebrahim]] ([[User talk:Zain Ebrahim111|talk]]) 12:20, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


:Do you want to find out if Topps is a subsidiary or how to update the infobox? [https://www.fanaticsinc.com/topps this] suggests that Topps is a subsidiary. [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 18:41, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
== Delete this article? ==
::@[[User:TSventon|TSventon]] Update the infobox to a subsidiary, seems complicated for a first time affair so some guidance would be helpful. [[User:Kline|Kline]] • [[User talk:Kline|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kline|contribs]] 00:42, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
:::[[User:Kline|Kline]], the infobox pages are usually helpful. I checked [[Template:Infobox company]] and found
:::"type
:::Type of ownership in the company (not their legal form of incorporation), wiki-linked where appropriate. To list percentages owned of a private company, use the ownership parameter. Available types:
:::<nowiki>[[Privately held company|Private]]</nowiki>
:::<nowiki>[[Public company|Public]]</nowiki>
:::<nowiki>[[Subsidiary]]</nowiki>
:::<nowiki>[[Division (business)|Division]]</nowiki>"
:::So Topps could be a division or a subsidiary.
:::If you want help finding information about the company you could try [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities]]. [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 05:29, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


== Map alignment ==
Sorry, can't say any more than that this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udder_cream seems like pure advertising and should probably be deleted.


At [[Timnath]], I tried to add a couple of locator maps. Why don't they align right even when I use the parameter float=right ? Edit: and why one of the label has "class=notpageimage" written under it?
[[User:Julian I Do Stuff|Julian I Do Stuff]] ([[User talk:Julian I Do Stuff|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment was added at 12:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
[[User:Danny lost|trespassers william]] ([[User talk:Danny lost|talk]]) 21:04, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Danny lost}} They are both at the right margin for me. Where do you see them and what is your browser? "class=notpageimage" ended in the wrong place because there was a wrong <code><nowiki>]]</nowiki></code><code><nowiki></nowiki></code>. I have removed it.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timnath&diff=prev&oldid=1225192253] [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 22:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you.
::I saw this on Chrome, both pc and mobile. On mobile I use the monobook style w/ the option "Enable responsive mode (Adapt layout to screen size on mobile) - on. Maybe it's turning it off that helped? When logged off, on mobile both maps are center-page. But I guess this is a default override behaviour?
::[[User:Danny lost|trespassers william]] ([[User talk:Danny lost|talk]]) 11:36, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Danny lost}} It's apparently a feature of responsive mode. If the window is deemed too narrow to get a good layout by placing text to the left of an image then float right is ignored. It doesn't matter whether location map templates were used. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 12:02, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


== Blocked?! ==
:You should list the article at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion]]. --[[User:Admiral Norton|Admiral Norton]] <sup>([[User talk:Admiral Norton|talk]])</sup> 12:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::I have cleaned out most of the advertising<nowiki>:</nowiki> the external links and promotional language. <b><font color="darkorange">[[User:Tnxman307|TN]]</font>‑<font color="darkblue"><big><big>[[User talk:Tnxman307|X]]</big></big></font>-<font color="red">[[Special:Contributions/Tnxman307|Man]]</font></b> 12:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


I tried to add information about a company I co-founded and received a "Blocked notice" from Wikipedia. I have no idea why this is the case and would like the Block removed asap. I do not understand how to do this. [[User:Lmfertig|Lmfertig]] ([[User talk:Lmfertig|talk]]) 21:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
:::It was pure advertising for a moisturiser. I tagged it for [[WP:SPEEDY|speedy deletion]], and it's [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=Udder+cream&year=&month=-1 been deleted]. --[[User:Hughcharlesparker|Hugh<small>Charles</small>Parker]] <small>([[User talk:Hughcharlesparker|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Hughcharlesparker|contribs]])</small> 09:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:{{re|Lmfertig}} What was the article and what username were you using? [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 21:52, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
::{{u|Lmfertig}}, editing with a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] is a serious problem, especially if undisclosed. Please comply with that behavioral guideline. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 08:07, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


== Galleries ==
= May 23 =


== Picture ==
Where do we stand on galleries of images in articles? There's a user working through Shakespeare's plays adding gallery sections and I don't want to interact with him/her on the subject until I know if there's a policy issue. If all that work is going to be undone, either the moment it's spotted or before the articles get up to [[WP:GA]], then I'd like to advise him/her to stop rather than wasting this effort. However if this is good work that Wikipedia wants, then that's good. Isn't there some kind of [[WP:NOT]] problem? [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones|talk]]) 12:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:It's all right, as far as the images themselves are not violating any policies. In fact, [[WP:BUNCH]] advises users to use galleries if there are a lot of images. There are a lot of articles (such as [[Niagara Falls]]) using galleries. Cheers. [[User:Chamal_N|<span style="color:#000080">'''C'''</span><span style="color:#0000CD">'''h'''</span><span style="color:#0000FF">'''a'''</span><span style="color:#4169E1">'''m'''</span><span style="color:#1E90FF">'''a'''</span><span style="color:#87CEEB">'''l'''</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Chamal_N|<span style="color:#693"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]]</small> [[Special:Contributions/Chamal_N|<span style="color:#C6C">±</span>]] 13:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


Hi!
== Clearly non-notable software articles ==


I am creating my profile on Wiki and I cannot upload a picture I took myself and own - there should be no issue but I receive a notification (We could not determine whether this file is suitable for Wikimedia Commons. Please only upload photos that you took yourself with your camera, or see what else is acceptable. See the guide to make sure the file is acceptable and learn how to upload it on Wikimedia). Can you help please?
What should I do with articles like [[IShowU]] or [[ScreenFlow]]? [[User:Admiral Norton|Admiral Norton]] <sup>([[User talk:Admiral Norton|talk]])</sup> 12:40, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:You have tagged them for deletion, which should be OK. Normally software isn't eligible for speedy, but there's so little context to those articles that it'll probably be up to the discretion of the closing admin. Cheers! <b><font color="darkorange">[[User:Tnxman307|TN]]</font>‑<font color="darkblue"><big><big>[[User talk:Tnxman307|X]]</big></big></font>-<font color="red">[[Special:Contributions/Tnxman307|Man]]</font></b> 12:57, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::They are clear as to subject, so no-context would be intellectually dishonest; and they're no longer copyvios or advertisements. I've prodded them instead. --[[User:Orangemike|<font color="darkorange">Orange Mike</font>]] &#x007C; [[User talk:Orangemike|<font color="orange">Talk</font>]] 13:17, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_Desk/Preview_before_post Taipei Underground is developed presently]
==Deriative FX at commons==
Is it broken? ([http://toolserver.org/~luxo/derivativeFX/deri1.php link]) I'm trying to upload a deriative and it's taking ages, quite literally. It's been at least half an hour now! Best, --'''[[User:Cameron|Cameron]][[User Talk:Cameron|*]]''' 15:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
: Not sure. You might want to ask on the [[en:Internet Relay Chat|IRC]] channel <tt>[irc://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-toolserver #wikimedia-toolserver]</tt> <b>[[User:Gtstricky|<font STYLE="verdana" COLOR ="#990000">'''''Gtstricky'''''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Gtstricky|Talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Gtstricky|C]]</sup></b> 15:30, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::It loaded when I tried it right now. ←Signed:→<font color="#380355" face="Ravie"><span style="cursor:move">Mr. E. Sánchez</span> <sup>'''[[User:ESanchez013|Get to know me!]]'''</sup> / <sub>'''[[User talk:ESanchez013|Talk to me!]]'''</sub></font>←at≈:→ 08:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


Jana [[User:Jana Koci|Jana Koci]] ([[User talk:Jana Koci|talk]]) 02:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
== Weird link on user page ==
{{Resolved|1=template deleted from user page -&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 15:50, 8 October 2008 (UTC)}}
Folks, I would appreciate some help here - I was just looking at [[User:Ukexpat|my user page]] and noticed a strange link to [[Help:User contributions]] in the top right corner just above the "skip to bottom" link. I cannot figure out where it's coming from. Any ideas? I know the page is a mess so I am not asking (yet) for design advice just some assistance with detective work. Thanks.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 15:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:It looks to be coming from {{tl|sp-contributions-footer}}. Normally, [[MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer]] is only used on the "My contributions" page; but the template on your userpage is a redirect to the Mediawiki page - resulting on that link appearing on other pages. See the talk page for [[MediaWiki talk:Sp-contributions-footer]] for the reason that it was added. --- [[User:Barek|Barek]] <small>([[User talk:Barek|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Barek|contribs]])</small> - 15:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::Yes, that was it, so I deleted {{tl|sp-contributions-footer}}. Thanks for the quick response.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 15:33, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::That's too bad I have it on my userpage too. I like that at the bottom but the Help:Contributions thing is annoying. [[User:Scottydude|Scottydude]] <sub><small>[[User talk:Scottydude|talk]]</small></sub> 18:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::::I posted a comment about it at [[MediaWiki talk:Sp-contributions-footer#Unintended side-effect]]. Please join in on the discussion on that talk page to discuss the link and/or what options exist. --- [[User:Barek|Barek]] <small>([[User talk:Barek|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Barek|contribs]])</small> - 18:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


:I'm not quite sure what exactly did you mean by "profile" here. If you meant [[WP:UP|User Page]], which is a page that tells other editors about your activities on Wikipedia, then personal photos are not necessary. If you meant a Wikipedia article, however, please note that creating an article about yourself or anyone/anything related to you is strongly discouraged.
== Need ability to post a picture Vontra --[[User:Vontra|Vontra]] ([[User talk:Vontra|talk]]) 16:37, 8 October 2008 (UTC) ==
:I see that you've already uploaded [https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Personal_picture_for_public_use_of_myself_2022.jpg a photo of yourself]. If that's the image in question, I think it is ready to be used already. I would agree with the notification in that it is hard to tell that you took the photo all by yourself. [[User:Tutwakhamoe|Tutwakhamoe]] ([[User talk:Tutwakhamoe|talk]]) 03:25, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


:[[User:Jana Koci|Jana Koci]], you have created [[User:Jana Koci/sandbox|a draft for an article about yourself]]. This is not a good idea: please read and digest [[Wikipedia:Autobiography]]. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 07:57, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
::{{Noping|Jimfbleak}} subsequently deleted [[User:Jana Koci/sandbox|your draft for an article about yourself]]. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 01:02, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


== Chen Zihan - ==
I have read through and gotten lost over several days and just can't get past the photo insert. No one has blocked me, at least not that I know of, and I would like to add portraits to the biographies that I am putting up.


the birth year of Chen Zihan is incorrect. indicated in Wikipedia is 1978 but her birth year should be 1975. [[Special:Contributions/103.6.151.158|103.6.151.158]] ([[User talk:103.6.151.158|talk]]) 06:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Can someone grant me permission to load the pictures? I do not want to load them into the common file but into the English picture file.
:The birth date discrepancy is already covered in the biography, so I fail to see what your point is. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 06:51, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


== Editing ==
Help! This is frustrating me.


Hi!
Thanks,
I tried to edit the site of Avri Levitan, because everything that is noted there sounds like AI and he wanted me to change that. But everytime I edit something, it is gone the next day. May somebody help me with that? [[Special:Contributions/91.67.220.216|91.67.220.216]] ([[User talk:91.67.220.216|talk]]) 08:47, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, IP editor. Your IP address has not edited [[Avri Levitan]] and other IP edits in recent months have not complied with policy. You should not be editing any Wikipedia article on behalf of another person. Please read [[WP:BOSS]]. If Levitan or anyone else has a problem with the article, then [[Talk: Avri Levitan]] is the place for those people to discuss it. Make formal [[WP:ER|edit requests]] there. Setting up a Wikipedia account, which is free and easy, will facilitate communication. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 08:59, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


== Printing Wikipedia ==
Vontra


How come I cannot print Wikipedia articles? I know my printer and computer are working as they print other stuff, but there doesn't seem to be a connection when I try to print Wikipedia [[User:Slinovitz|Slinovitz]] ([[User talk:Slinovitz|talk]]) 10:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
:Hello Vontra. Only [[WP:Autoconfirmed|autoconfirmed users]] can upload files to Wikipedia. Autoconfirmed status is gained automatically, after 4 days and ten registered edits. You will then have access to the [[Special:Upload]] interface. Best, [[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 16:40, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


:[[Help:Printing]] may be of help. '''[[User:Lee Vilenski|<span style="color:green">Lee Vilenski</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lee Vilenski|talk]] • [[Special:Contribs/Lee Vilenski|contribs]])</sup>''' 11:07, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
:May I ask why you don't want to upload to [[Commons:Main Page|Commons]]? If you created the images that is by far the best place to upload them so that they are available to all the WP projects, and Commons does not have autoconfirmation requirements.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 16:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:@[[User:Slinovitz|Slinovitz]] In addition to that advice, one alternative is to use the "Download as PDF" tool and subsequently print that version locally. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 11:36, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
== No left click! No {{tl|Inspect diff}} thing, impossible to search from Watchlist ==
Watchlist refreshes but no inspect diff, no operative links (hist, diff etc). Takes five mins to load. Every other page is per normal. OK. Is this due to using code etc so old we would build a better encyclopedia with the walls of [[Lascaux ]]?! Wot gives? [[User talk:Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:red">——Serial Number 54129</span>]] 13:48, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


Hi there! After reading the descriptions of both places to deposit photos, I decided the other category was best. I have been a user for more than four days - I have no idea how many edits I have made. How would I find out? --[[User:Vontra|Vontra]] ([[User talk:Vontra|talk]]) 16:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:@[[User:Serial Number 54129|Serial Number 54129]] My watchlist is doing all the things it normally does: I use the default [[WP:VECTOR22]] skin. If you are not using that, try it. Then report to [[WP:VPT]] if the problem persists. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 13:56, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
::I just wish I could find out why it literally changed out of the blue—a couple of hours ago, it was fine, you see. Anyway, thank you very much [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike]]. [[User talk:Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:red">——Serial Number 54129</span>]] 14:01, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


== Mabel Normand ==
:You can click the tab at the top of the page that says "my contributions". If you are using the default skin, it should be at the VERY top of every Wikipedia page. --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|<small>talk</small>]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|<small>contribs</small>]] 17:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


Hello, I am great-nephew to Mabel Normand and I have been promoting my great aunt Mabel’s career and life for 50yrs of my 75. The biography which appears in Wikipedia mention the same old hash. I have had her first biography published in FILMS IN REVIEW Sept 1974. I have given interviews about her life & career and also give talks and know a considerable amount of information from the family point of view and our own resources which haven’t seen light of day. I would like to write something about my great aunt which comes from my knowledge of those facts. In the present biography in Wikipedia things are mentioned like the Broadway Musical Mack & Mabel to which I contributed to the Librettist, The Stevie Nix song MabelNormand but my public protest is not indicated. Can you tell me how I can legitimately have a say in this biography. It is not entirely accurate nor does it give a fair look at Mabel’s contribution as an early pioneer of motion pictures. Instead it sadly dwells on the negative incidents and not enough on her positive contributions or her private personal happiness events of life nor her deep convictions for fairness in life for the poor. There is no mention of her charitable acts to support orphans and her deeply held religious convictions. These are facts of her life which are as important as the same old rehash. Also Mabel was christened Mabel not Ambel and her father was Claude not Clod. Where do people get this nonsense from? I would like to write the story as according to the facts we her family have. Personally I deeply offended at having to endure any longer this bullying scandal invented in Hollywood Babylon after her death. As her blood relative I have every right to have my say and I would be grateful for your help and advice.
:Or; you can go to [[Special:Preferences]] and look at "Member of groups"; it will show if you are in the Autoconfirmed users group. --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup></font></b> - </i> 19:36, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
The biography in Wikipedia as it stands is not fully factual and has become more fantasised each time it is edited. Who is the person editing it now. At one point I had through Wikipedia the choice to review what was written or contributed by the writer of the time about 5 years ago. What has happened to being able to contact the editor directly. As a living relative I would like to be included in the mini bio as I have seen in other bio’s.
with thanks for your help and understanding in this matter
Yours sincerely
Stephen Normand
Great-Nephew of Mabel Normand [[User:Stephen Great-Nephew of Mabel Normand|Stephen Great-Nephew of Mabel Normand]] ([[User talk:Stephen Great-Nephew of Mabel Normand|talk]]) 15:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


:The way Wikipedia works is that all content is based on what [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] have ''already'' written about a subject, we can't base content on [[WP:OR|your personal experience]]. However, it does sound as if you have done some press yourself, so that could possibly be used as a basis for some article content. Obviosuly you have a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] here, so the way for you to contribute would be to suggest changes at [[Talk:Mabel Normand]]. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 15:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
== Question regarding donating information ==
:Is there a reason why you're not using your old account, @[[User:Mack&Mabel18|Mack&Mabel18]], on which you signed off similarly in [[Special:Diff/924998021|this comment]]? —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu&nbsp;🐲</span>]]&nbsp;(&nbsp;[[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]]&nbsp;) 16:39, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
:One thing that I can say for certain is that [[Hollywood Babylon]] is not a reliable source for anything. It is sensationalistic trash filled with proven falsehoods. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 18:06, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
::"''in 1975, The New York Times said of it, "If a book such as this can be said to have charm, it lies in the fact that here is a book without one single redeeming merit.''"" Yeah, that's not exactly a ringing endorsement. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 18:34, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


== Article Review ==
Hello! We're a little confused about donating copyrighted information. We at Bryn Mawr College hold the copyright to information on our Special Collections website, and we are trying to add some of this content to Wikipedia, but it is repeatedly being flagged for deletion/blanked because we don't say on the website that we are releasing it under GFDL. We ARE, however, releasing it under GFDL and have said so on all of the talk pages (not that I'm saying these pages are wrongfully blanked - we fully understand the need to verify this information). We have also left note of our email address, which is the one posted on the bottom of all of our library pages, on the talk pages. Is that not an okay first step? We've read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Donating_copyrighted_materials, which says:


How to receive an article review? How long of a wait is normal wait time? Article is in "draft" ready to be published [[draft:Nerijus Glezekas]].
''If you want to grant Wikipedia permission to use material from your site, but don't want to place a statement to that effect on your site, you can leave us a notice to that effect on the article's talk page (or on your user page if your site covers a number of topics). This does require that your site have a posted email contact, or some other similar means for us to verify that we really do have the relevant permission. Someone from Wikipedia will then contact that email address to confirm the permission, and we will be able to add your site to a list of those from which our editors may freely draw.''


Is that not true? Will that not happen? Thanks! [[User:Bmcspecial|Bmcspecial]] ([[User talk:Bmcspecial|talk]]) 17:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Thank you [[User:Petrichor2.0|Petrichor2.0]] ([[User talk:Petrichor2.0|talk]]) 17:04, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


:It can take some time, as of right now there are 2,750 pending submissions in [[:Category:Pending AfC submissions]], the oldest of which has been pending for three months. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 17:16, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
:It may be easier to e-mail OTRS, see [[WP:IOWN]].&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 17:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:@[[User:Petrichor2.0|Petrichor2.0]] The draft now has the previous decline notices restored. There is now a big blue box which would allow it to be re-submitted to review. However, you should not do that until you have updated the draft to address the concerns of the previous reviewers. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 17:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
::The email should go to permissions-en@wikimedia.org However, it would be easier to put the GFDL info on your site.<b>[[User:Gtstricky|<font STYLE="verdana" COLOR ="#990000">'''''Gtstricky'''''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Gtstricky|Talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Gtstricky|C]]</sup></b> 18:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I know it would be "easier", but computing services won't give us access to our own website.[[User:Bmcspecial|Bmcspecial]] ([[User talk:Bmcspecial|talk]]) 18:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::Thank you for your answer, I really appreciate it. I have been perfecting the article for year now, adding notable sources and addressing the issues previewers found. Hopefully, it will be to their liking now. [[User:Petrichor2.0|Petrichor2.0]] ([[User talk:Petrichor2.0|talk]]) 17:27, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
::::Just realized that sounded a little cross! Wasn't meant to be - we're more frustrated with the fact that we can't edit our own website than anything going on here. :) [[User:Bmcspecial|Bmcspecial]] ([[User talk:Bmcspecial|talk]]) 18:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::{{u|Petrichor2.0}}, your draft is overtly promotional and shot through with non-neutral phrases. It needs ''heavy'' editing to bring it into compliance with the [[WP:NPOV|Neutral point of view]], which is a core content policy. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 18:29, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
:::An unreferenced sentence such as {{tq|He is recognized for his musicianship, substantial lyrical work and charismatic stage personality}} (who says so?) is blatantly promotional and completely unacceptable. Everything in the article must be credited to a reliable independent source. [[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 08:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::Anyone who thought you sounded cross must lack ''[[wikt:sangfroid|sangfroid]]''. On Wikipedia, we [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]]. On the Help desk, we are used to stating facts succinctly, without too much bowing and scraping and "By your leave, Sir"s etc. Should you ever feel the need to sound cross, it's as simple as PRESSING THE CAPS LOCK KEY. It sounds as if you should send a little CAPS LOCK to your computing services people. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 19:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Petrichor2.0|Petrichor2.0]] Against my advice, you have re-submitted the draft and I predict it will be declined again. Whole sections (e.g. "Influences") are uncited, which is against the policies for [[WP:BLP|biographies of living people]] because of lack of [[WP:V|verification]]. The other comments made above are also still relevant. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 11:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::That we should! [[User:Bmcspecial|Bmcspecial]] ([[User talk:Bmcspecial|talk]]) 19:18, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::I've given Petrichor's draft an edit. I don't know if the subject meets notability, but at least it is not promotional anymore. [[User:Zanahary|Zanahary]] ([[User talk:Zanahary|talk]]) 02:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)


==Harv errors==
== tag for logical contradiction ==
Hi Folks!! On the [[Rudolf Roessler]] article which I updated recently its coming up with harv errors in orange. I don't know what the problem is. Any ideas? '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">[[User:scope_creep|<span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:scope_creep#top|Talk]]</sup></span>''' 21:05, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|scope creep}} I'm not seeing any {{tq|harv errors in orange}}. Did you resolve this yourself since you did further edit the article after posting this question? If not, perhaps you can indentify the reference or references that are showing error messages. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 22:00, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|Marchjuly}} Its seems to be working. I checked it on Opera and no sign of the errors. I use Firefox and switched everything off, all the add-in and still there, restarted my pc. It states in the first ref "Harv error: linked from CITEREFAccoceQuet1967" in orange. Its weird. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">[[User:scope_creep|<span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:scope_creep#top|Talk]]</sup></span>''' 22:10, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|Marchjuly}} Possibly one of the scripts im using that has a reporting bug. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">[[User:scope_creep|<span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:scope_creep#top|Talk]]</sup></span>''' 22:11, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|Marchjuly}} Its all of the references being reported. This is a link [https://jumpshare.com/s/TdZHgUKJ71CtVObnnNjl] '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">[[User:scope_creep|<span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:scope_creep#top|Talk]]</sup></span>''' 22:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
:::<small>{{hidden ping|scope creep}} Was it really necessary to ping me three times in the same discussion thread within a seven-minute period? Doing so reminds me of people who repeatedly tap on the bell at the front desk of a hotel or at the register counter of a restaurant because they're unable to wait to be help or because they're not being helped as quickly as they want. Anyway, it seems like DuncanHill as figured out the nature of the problem you're experiencing; so, perhaps things will now be resolved. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 00:33, 24 May 2024 (UTC)</small>
:::I see it, and also on [[Alexander von Humboldt]]. The error messages are generated by [[User:Trappist the monk/HarvErrors.js]]. The documentation for that says "This is a "wrong section" error; You included short footnote <nowiki>{{sfn|Anderson|2021}}</nowiki> inline, and there is a valid full citation for it in the bottom matter, but it's in the wrong section, such as "Further reading". It should be in either "Bibliography", or "Works cited" (which must be a level two section heading). Dark orange by default." As far as I can see it should not be showing on these pages. Ping {{ping|Trappist the monk}} [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 22:33, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
:I do not see the messages that you are complaining about. I'm using the latest version of Chrome and have looked at the offending articles with it and with ms Edge. It has been said here that the messages are not appearing in the Opera browser so that suggests that this may be a Firefox-only issue.
:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 13:20, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
::{{re|Trappist the monk}} I use Edge and I see them. [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 16:47, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


== Barry Devorzon ==
Is there a tag that can be used to flag a logical contradiction that I am unable to resolve myself? For example, where one sentence says something that is contradicted by the next sentence. [[User:Ike9898|ike9898]] ([[User talk:Ike9898|talk]]) 19:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


I am Barry Devorzon and on May21,2024 I edited my Wikipedia Bio to correct errors, adjust time line and add additional information. When I was finished I hit Publish. When I search on my name the original Bio information is displayed instead of the newly edited bio I submitted inMay 21, 2024. What is the problem, or does it take a certain amount of time for someone to sign off on it before it will be posted? [[User:Bdevorzon|Bdevorzon]] ([[User talk:Bdevorzon|talk]]) 21:42, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
:Yes, actually. {{tl|Contradiction}} [[User:Someguy1221|Someguy1221]] ([[User talk:Someguy1221|talk]]) 19:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::I recently added a {{Tl|Wikipedia template messages}} [[WP:NAVBOX|navigation template]] to all the [[Wikipedia:Template messages|Template messages]] pages. {{Tl|Wikipedia template messages}} contains a {{Tl|Google custom}} search link for searching those pages. For example, it lets you search for "contradiction"; here is the overkill illustration of that search (you don't have to go through all this to search from the navigation template, of course):
{| class="wikitable"
<!-- ! width=280px | Type this !! width=130px | To get this !! What it produces, or searches for -->
! Type this !! To get this !! What it produces, or searches for
|-
| <tt><nowiki>{{google custom|en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages|contradiction|search Wikipedia's template messages for: contradiction}}</nowiki></tt> || {{google custom|en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages|contradiction|search Wikipedia's template messages for: contradiction}} || Search the [[Wikipedia:Template messages]] subtree for: contradiction
|-
|}
::That leads to the [[Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup#Contradiction and confusion]] section. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 19:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I just made {{tl|contradiction-inline}} [[User: Densock|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:#999FFF">Den</em><em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:Gainsboro">sock</em>''']]|<small>[[User talk:Dendodge|Dendodge]]</small><sup>in public</sup> 11:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


:You've edited the talk page, but your contribution history does not indicate you edited the article itself; if you think you did, it didn't work. You shouldn't be editing the article directly anyway; please use the talk page to propose edits as [[WP:ER|edit requests]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:51, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
== div background-image in wikipedia ==
:Hi {{u|Bdevorzon}}. Did you by chance happen to read the responses you received to [[:Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1225#Barry Devorzon]]? They contain information that you might find helpful. Some additional information was also added to [[:User talk:Bdevorzon|your user talk page]], including suggestions on how to ask for assistance if you feel that the content written about you on Wikipedia is incorrect or otherwise out-of-date. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 21:55, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


== search box ==
Hi, i don't know is this the right place to post this question or not but can someone help me please, <br />I want know how i can use background-image with adjustable transparency in DIV tags here in wikipedia; or any other way that i can use background-image inside a frame. '''[[User:Mmxx|<span style='color:#800000;background-color:#FFE4E1;'>&nbsp; ■ MMXX</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Mmxx|''<span style='color: #800000;'>talk</span>'']]&nbsp;</sup> 19:47, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
<small>PS. a same message is also posted in [[Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)]]</small>
:Where on Wikipedia do you want to use this? It's unlikely that fancy design methods would be appropriate in [[WP:WIAA|articles]]. See [[Wikipedia:Manual of style]]. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 21:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


I can't find the search box on the home page. Can you help me [[User:Alanwexler2|Alanwexler2]] ([[User talk:Alanwexler2|talk]]) 22:00, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
== User Pages ==


:Assuming that you're referring to the [[Main Page|English Wikipedia homepage]], the search box is on the top right for desktop, or would appear after tapping the magnifier icon for mobile webpage. If you still can't find the searchbox, you can still search with Google by typing site:en.wikipedia.org after your search phrase. [[User:Tutwakhamoe|Tutwakhamoe]] ([[User talk:Tutwakhamoe|talk]]) 23:20, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Is there anything that can't go on a user page other than illegal items? Is it alright to have advertising for your product on your user page or not? --[[User:Samtheboy|Samtheboy]] <sup><small>([[User talk:Samtheboy|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Samtheboy|c]])</small></sup> 20:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:@[[User:Alanwexler2|Alanwexler2]]: As you're a new user and it doesn't appear you're editing from a mobile device, the search field should be at the top of the page in the centre. If you can't see it, assuming you're using a Windows computer, you can make it active by using the key combination {{key press|Alt|Shift|F}}. —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu&nbsp;🐲</span>]]&nbsp;(&nbsp;[[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]]&nbsp;) 00:13, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
:See [[WP:USERPAGE]] for more information. In short, no, it is not OK for you to use your userspace to advertise. Wikipedia is not a free webhost, and your userpage is to be used solely for Wikipedia-related content. --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|<small>talk</small>]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|<small>contribs</small>]] 20:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


= May 24 =
:Yes. Further to Jayron's answer, have a look at #6 in [[WP:UP#NOT]]. [[Special:Contributions/Zain Ebrahim111|Zain Ebrahim]] ([[User talk:Zain Ebrahim111|talk]]) 20:27, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


== I want to propose a mass renaming of ALL Chinese train stations - how do I do so? ==
== Barack Obama ==


Since the [[WP:COMMONNAME]] of Chinese train stations is now the pinyin of the cardinal direction rather than the cardinal direction (e.g. "Hangzhoudong Railway Station" instead of "Hangzhou East railway station", "Shanghainan Railway Station" instead of "Shanghai South railway station"), I would like to move all the articles of train stations across China as such. However, there must be thousands of articles that I would have to change. Where can I propose this change? [[User:Félix An|Félix An]] ([[User talk:Félix An|talk]]) 01:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
I would like to see any information on Barack Obama? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.191.33.237|24.191.33.237]] ([[User talk:24.191.33.237|talk]]) 20:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:An [[WP:RFC|RFC]] is probably your best bet. You might want to notify relevant Wikiprojects like [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains|WikiProject Trains]] or [[wikipedia:WikiProject China|WikiProject China]]. Alternatively, if you're 100% sure that it's not controversial, you could use {{tls|requested move}}; the documentation has more information on how to do multiple pages. —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu&nbsp;🐲</span>]]&nbsp;(&nbsp;[[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]]&nbsp;) 02:33, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
:See [[Barack Obama]]. [[Special:Contributions/Zain Ebrahim111|Zain Ebrahim]] ([[User talk:Zain Ebrahim111|talk]]) 20:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


:[[User:Félix An|Félix An]], maybe I was sleepy, but it took me some time to work out what you were saying. But I imagine that you mean this: "Since the English name used by China Railway for any Chinese train station consisting of a place name plus cardinal direction now doesn't use the place name in [[pinyin]] plus a cardinal direction in English (such as '[[Hangzhou East railway station|Hangzhou '''East''' railway station]]') but instead renders the cardinal direction too in pinyin (such as 'Hangzhou'''dong''' railway station'), ..." I suppose you'll either have to provide evidence that the latter really are the common names, or have to argue that one or more other factors should outweigh the criterion of commonness. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 04:32, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
== Country Music Pictures ==
:That's interesting, but likely controversial, especially when there are Chinese OTAs such as trip.com are using the English cardinal directions rather than pinyin. Do open a discussion first before doing or requesting for the mass move. Using the Chinese cardinal directions is definitely [[WP:OFFICIAL]] at the very least though, as reflected on the 12306 app. [[User:Robertsky|– robertsky]] ([[User talk:Robertsky|talk]]) 06:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


:I see that [[Brussels-midi]] is a redirect to [[Brussels-South railway station]], but [[Paris Gare du Nord]] is a redirect to [[Gare du Nord]], so there's no consistent policy here. (There are direct trains to both from London. In my experience my fellow Brits refer to them by their French names.) [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 06:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
I have some country music pictures that you don't have. How do I upload them to you? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.183.37.205|24.183.37.205]] ([[User talk:24.183.37.205|talk]]) 20:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I don't think this is going to go through, but generally you'd want to make a post on [[WP:NCZH]], [[MOS:ZH]], or both. [[User:Remsense|<span style="border-radius:2px 0 0 2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F;color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]][[User talk:Remsense|<span lang="zh" style="border:1px solid #1E816F;border-radius:0 2px 2px 0;padding:1px 3px;color:#000">诉</span>]] 06:22, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


== how to create a wikipedia page ==
:Hello anon. This depends on the [[WP:C|copyright]] status of the images. If they are under copyright, they cannot be used except in [[WP:NFCC|exceptional circumstances]]. If they are [[WP:FREE|free-use]] images, you might want to look at the [[commons:Main Page|Wikimedia Commons]], the depository for free images across all Wikimedia projects. Best, [[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 20:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


How do i create a wikipedia page for myself [[User:Tanaaz Bhatia|Tanaaz Bhatia]] ([[User talk:Tanaaz Bhatia|talk]]) 05:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
:: (edit conflict with above) In order to upload pictures, you need an account. See [[WP:WHY]] for other reasons why creating an account is a good idea. Additionally, you should consider creating an account at [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page Wikimedia Commons] a site that will allow your pictures to be shared among all of the various Wikipedia/Wiktionary/Wikinews/etc. sites in ALL languages, and not just the English Language Wikipedia. Once you have an account, if you need more help with the technical aspects of uploading and liscencing images, see [[WP:IMAGE]], [[WP:IUP]], and [[Help:Images and other uploaded files]]. Good luck! --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|<small>talk</small>]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|<small>contribs</small>]] 20:32, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:[[User:Tanaaz Bhatia|Tanaaz Bhatia]], you mean, a page ''about'' yourself? If this is what you mean, you do not create such a page. Please read [[Wikipedia:Autobiography]]. (Attempts are not actually prohibited, but they usually fail, after wasting various people's time.) -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 05:31, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


== If empty ==
== Where to obtain help on writing a template? ==


Can someone please help me edit a template using {{template|if empty}}. if parameter {{parameter|template}} is empty, the word "article" need to pop up. example: <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" style="overflow:auto;">{{template|{{if empty |[[Template:{{{template|}}}|article]] |article}}</syntaxhighlight> it previews like [[Template:|article]] note: the parameter {{parameter|template}} is a link. [[User:MAL MALDIVE|MAL MALDIVE]] ([[User talk:MAL MALDIVE|talk]]) 15:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
I've written my first template, which still needs some work, but has (somewhat to my surprise) already been put into use in articles. I want to improve it and have some technical questions on templating; is this the right place? I'm thinking this is less about Wikipedia, per se, (i.e., WP articles and practices) and more about the software, so maybe I should be asking in some other forum. [[User:TJRC|TJRC]] ([[User talk:TJRC|talk]]) 20:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:Perhaps this instead?
:That's pretty nifty! You could try [[WP:VPT|the Village pump (technical)]] or [[mw:Help:Templates|Media Wiki template help]] as a starting point.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 21:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">{{#if:{{{template|}}}|[[Template:{{{template|}}}|template]]|article}}</syntaxhighlight>
::And see [[WP:EIW#Template]]. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 21:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::{{#if:{{{template|}}}|[[Template:{{{template|}}}|template]]|article}}
:::The people over at [[Wikipedia:Requested templates]] are very knowledgeable and I've requested help there for esoteric template matters though the page is not technically an advice forum.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 21:50, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 15:36, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you.{{happy face}} [[User:MAL MALDIVE|MAL MALDIVE]] ([[User talk:MAL MALDIVE|talk]]) 06:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)


== Can't move page ==
== cant edit the page ==


cant edit the page [[User:Raangii|Raangii]] ([[User talk:Raangii|talk]]) 18:36, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
Could someone move [[Ubuntu Live USB Creator]] to [[Ubuntu Live USB creator]] ?
I can't do it... [[User:SF007|SF007]] ([[User talk:SF007|talk]]) 21:48, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:Out of curiosity, why do you want to move it? Isn't Ubuntu Live USB Creator the name of the software? --[[User:Alinnisawest|Alinnisawest]],<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Alinnisawest|<font color="black">'''Dalek Empress'''</font>]]</sup> ([[User talk:Alinnisawest|<font color="#cf0021">'''extermination requests here]]'''</font>) 21:52, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::I took a look at a few websites and it appears that ''creator'' is not part of the title proper, and given that SF007 is the sole contributor I went ahead and moved it (and fixed a double redirect created). Note that requested moves, both uncontroversial and controversial, can be requested at [[Wikipedia:Requested moves]]. Now that the redirect has a sole edit, anyone can move it back, if needed.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 21:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ok, thanks, I was not aware of a place to request moves. I just wanted to move because of a typo I made in "Creator". Thanks. [[User:SF007|SF007]] ([[User talk:SF007|talk]]) 22:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


:You haven't indiacted the name of the page you can't edit, so all we can do is guess, but as a brand-new account you are not [[WP:AUTOCONFIRM|autoconfirmed]] so the issue is probably [[WP:PP|page protection]] of some sort. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 18:40, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
== Muhammad Kamal ==


== [[Primo Villanueva]] ==


Calexico High School [[User:Denecof|Denecof]] ([[User talk:Denecof|talk]]) 22:35, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
Muhammad Kamal(1955-)is a Kurd from Kurdistan of Iraq. He obtained Diploma in Education from Teachers Institute in Erbil. He left Iraq in 1979 to pursue his studies in Philosophy. He obtained B.A. (Honours), M. A. and Ph.D. in Philosophy at the University of Karachi. He taught first as a lecturer then as an assistant professor in the Department of Philosophy at the University of Karachi from 1985 to 1994. In 1992 he went to Germany on DAAD scholarship for post-doctoral research. He migrated to Australia in 1994.Currently, he is a senior lecturer at the University of Melbourne in Australia. Kamal writes in Kurdish and English and has publisded widely on Philosophy particularlu Existenmtailsim. He is considered to be one of the forerunners of Existentailsm in Kurdistan and one of the founders of the Existentialist group in the city of Sulemani the cultural capital of Iraqi Kurdistan. Kamal's thought was first developed under the influence of Hegel and Jean-Paul Sartre. Now his main focus and area of interest is the philosophy of Martin Heidegger. Kamal has published five books in English, ten books in Kurdish and a number of reserach papers in international philosophical journals. At present he lives in Melbourne. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/128.250.67.210|128.250.67.210]] ([[User talk:128.250.67.210|talk]]) 23:21, 8 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:OK. What is your question ?!? --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|<small>talk</small>]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|<small>contribs</small>]] 02:01, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:Attended Calexico High School not Central High School. [[User:Denecof|Denecof]] ([[User talk:Denecof|talk]]) 22:37, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
::Perhaps the questioner assumes this is how to go about creating a [[WP:BIO|biographical article]] about [[Muhammad Kamal]]. The help desk occasionally receives these sorts of disconnected biographical snippets. To the questioner: if you want to learn how to contribute articles to Wikipedia which have a low probability of [[WP:WWMPD|getting deleted]], perhaps the most self-contained introduction is the book: [[Wikipedia - The Missing Manual]]. All the same information is [[WP:EIW|in our online help]], but the book presents the basics in serial order, which might be easier for someone new to Wikipedia than to get lost in the endless collection of online hypertext. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 04:03, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


:So you've already said at [[Talk:Primo Villanueva]], [[User:Denecof|Denecof]]. Good, that's where to say it. But you need to cite a reliable source for saying so. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
= October 9 =


== e-Mail ==
== Source Reliability ==


Hi all, I'm working on a draft for a grade-II listed factory ([[User:Pahunkat/sandbox/Nabisco Shredded Wheat Factory|here]] for anybody interested). I was wondering if someone could look at [https://planning.welhat.gov.uk/Document/Download?module=PLA&recordNumber=96630&planId=1747359&imageId=3889&isPlan=False&fileName=ES%20Vol%202%20Appendix%2015.1%20-Heritage%20Statement.pdf this pdf source] and give their thoughts on its reliability. It covers events which are otherwise difficult to find elsewhere, but editorial oversight and the company's incentives to produce the report are questionable. [[User:Pahunkat|Pahunkat]] ([[User talk:Pahunkat|talk]]) 22:45, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
When I initially established my account, I submitted the wrong e-mail address due to a typo error. How do I change or correct my E-Mail address? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.28.194.92|98.28.194.92]] ([[User talk:98.28.194.92|talk]]) 02:02, 9 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: First you need to log into your account. You are currently editing while logged out. Secondly, there is a tab at the VERY top of every page that says "my preferences". Click that tab, and you can change your default email address there. --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|<small>talk</small>]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|<small>contribs</small>]] 02:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


:Biased sources can still be reliable for facts. Section 6, which lays out the consultancy's argumentation regarding development of the site, is probably too biased to cite, but the rest of the report doesn't seem problematic in my opinion. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 23:16, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
==A "Jimbo Wales" subpage==
::Alright, thanks Folly Mox. [[User:Pahunkat|Pahunkat]] ([[User talk:Pahunkat|talk]]) 10:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
I came across this: [[User:Hda3ku/ / / / / / / / / / / sdf]] when I decided to see where the Jibo Ravana.jpg picture linked to. Now, I want to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] here, but I'm afraid it could be used for "naughtiness", if you know what I mean. A little help? Thx. ←Signed:→<font color="#380355" face="Ravie"><span style="cursor:move">Mr. E. Sánchez</span> <sup>'''[[User:ESanchez013|Get to know me!]]'''</sup> / <sub>'''[[User talk:ESanchez013|Talk to me!]]'''</sub></font>←at≈:→ 03:27, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:It's just a copy of some revision of [[User:Jimbo Wales]]. [[User:Calvin 1998|Calvin 1998]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:Calvin 1998|t]]·[[Special:Contributions/Calvin 1998|c]])</sup> 03:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::yeah, the [[WP:AGF]] response is to ignore it, since it doesn't seem to be doing any actual harm. Actually, my best guess is that the user liked the layout of Jimbo's user page, and made himself a copy to play around with the Wikitext and see about implementing some of it himself. Just a guess here. --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|<small>talk</small>]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|<small>contribs</small>]] 03:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:::One could ask about it on [[User talk:Hda3ku]]. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 04:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Thanks! ←Signed:→<font color="#380355" face="Ravie"><span style="cursor:move">Mr. E. Sánchez</span> <sup>'''[[User:ESanchez013|Get to know me!]]'''</sup> / <sub>'''[[User talk:ESanchez013|Talk to me!]]'''</sub></font>←at≈:→ 08:09, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


== Article Fjolla ==
== Tank Dumars ==


Video Game Charcter in NCAA 14 Dynasty mode [[Special:Contributions/172.249.42.137|172.249.42.137]] ([[User talk:172.249.42.137|talk]]) 23:42, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
There ia an article here on [[Fjolla]] that I was going to transwiki to Wiktionary, but the word already exists there, but without this meaning (see [[wikt:Fjolla]]). I would think it needs to be merged with that entry because it is non-encyclopedic in nature to stand, being simply a definition of the word, as an article here. My problem is what to do. It does not qualify, from what I gather, for tagging {{tl|Copy to Wiktionary}} because the words exists there already. Does it need to be AFD'd, and then appended to wiktionary once deleted, or is there some other method other than the copy tag that will expedite this? --<small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:JavierMC|<font style="color:#fef;background:darkblue;">'''Javier'''</font>]][[User talk:JavierMC|<font style="color:darkblue;background:white;">'''MC''']]</font></span></small> 06:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 23:47, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
:I don't think that it needs to be transwikied to Wikt. The WP [[Fjolla]] article is about the name, whereas the Wikt definition is for other uses of the word. The WP article can certainly stand on its own - we have many articles about first names - [[John (first name)]] for example, that also have definitions on Wikt - [[w:John|John]]. [[Fjolla]] need some work, but I think it is a valid WP article. The Wikt definition could be expanded to include the name definition, similar to [[w:John|John]], though it would obviously be less detailed.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 15:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::I have wikified [[Fjolla]] and created the relevant name category and sub-cat and applied the sub-cat. Maybe someone familiar with IPA could add the correct IPA pronunciation key?&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 15:29, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


== Asking for votes? ==
= May 25 =
Now, an editor has asked on his/her userpage for editors to go to an AfD and vote '''Keep'''. Now, I know there's a policy against this, but I can't recall which one. Can you help me? Thanks! (Oh, if that's '''not''' against policy, also let me know, please!) ←Signed:→<font color="#380355" face="Ravie"><span style="cursor:move">Mr. E. Sánchez</span> <sup>'''[[User:ESanchez013|Get to know me!]]'''</sup> / <sub>'''[[User talk:ESanchez013|Talk to me!]]'''</sub></font>←at≈:→ 08:11, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


== Submitting material ==
:I think you're thinking of [[Wikipedia:Canvassing]], but I don't think that's what's going on here. Spamming lots of people's talk pages to try to persuade them to support your point of view is frowned on. Highlighting a discussion on a userpage isn't. In fact, encouraging relevant editors to contribute to a discussion is a contructive approach. It might sometimes be helpful to remind people that an AFD is a discussion, not a vote, though. --[[User:Hughcharlesparker|Hugh<small>Charles</small>Parker]] <small>([[User talk:Hughcharlesparker|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Hughcharlesparker|contribs]])</small> 08:47, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


How does one add a Wikipedia entry for, say, a new book series or its fictional characters? [[Special:Contributions/92.25.136.63|92.25.136.63]] ([[User talk:92.25.136.63|talk]]) 01:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
::I guess this is about [[User:Crazyla112]] which looks inappropriate to me. It makes unsourced partisan claims in a place other people are unlikely to comment. And it's by the article creator who has a strong [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] (screen writer for the article subject) and asks people to please go to the AfD and vote keep. They are not asked to consider guidelines, alleged sources or anything else. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 14:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:Does the book/series meet [[Wikipedia:Notability (books)|these guidelines]] for inclusion? [[User:Zanahary|Zanahary]] ([[User talk:Zanahary|talk]]) 02:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
::Fictional characters are notable ''only'' when reliable, published sources that are ''entirely independent '' of the book, the author and the publisher devote significant attention to the fictional character. Not passing mentions, but delving deeply. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 04:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)


== I need help from a Wikitable wizard ==
==Image copyright question==


Hello!<br>
Can I use the top part of [http://www.doverpast.co.uk/thenow/new_snargatestreet.htm this image] free of copyright (date c1920s) in a Wikipedia article? [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 09:54, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm working on [[Sikidy]] and want to copy a table from a source. The table has some complicated headers, with some nesting. Would anyone be willing to help me out with them? I can't seem to figure out how to do them. Below are the header rows alone (which in the wikitable I would want to all be shaded dark, as headers are)
:Not necessarily. If the author of the photograph is unknown, then possibly, because it's fair to assume it was taken in the 1920s and copyright will therefore have expired. If the author is known, however, then copyright will subsist until 70 years after their death, so the image may not be copyright free yet. <sub>[[User:Gb|Gb]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Gb|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Gb|c]]</sup> 12:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
[[File:Headings.png|frameless|none]]
Thank you very much! [[User:Zanahary|Zanahary]] ([[User talk:Zanahary|talk]]) 02:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)


:With visual editing, you'll need to have a 3×5 header, and select the cells to be merged to form the long cells. As for shading, switch to source editing and change "|" of each cell to "!". You can copy the following table:
==I want to report a sock-puppet==
:{| class="wikitable"

! colspan="5" |
I am sure that [[User:WorldAtlas]] and [[User:ThomasBuckley]] are the same person. They make similar edits to the same articles and they even sign their names in the same incorrect manner. Also they are coluding in a debate as to which logo to use in the article [[University of East Anglia]] - See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:University_of_East_Anglia#Reversed_Logo_.3D_More_Official/ here]. What can you do about this? I don't think it's right if the same person is trying to manipulate debate to get their own way. [[Special:Contributions/79.75.215.137|79.75.215.137]] ([[User talk:79.75.215.137|talk]]) 11:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
|-
:Usual place would be [[WP:SSP]], but given the cross-over of edits, it's pretty clear that they're one and the same. The giveaway, for me, is that Thomas Buckley uploads a logo for Connecticut College [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:ConnColl_Logo.PNG&diff=prev&oldid=240248688 here], and a few minutes later WorldAtlast edits the page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Connecticut_College&diff=prev&oldid=240249324 here] to insert it. <sub>[[User:Gb|Gb]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Gb|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Gb|c]]</sup> 12:01, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
! rowspan="2" |
::So what will be done about it?{{unsigned|79.75.215.137}}
! rowspan="2" |
:::Try checking the talk pages of the user concerned...the older account has been blocked for one day, the younger account has been indefinitely blocked as a sock.<sub>[[User:Gb|Gb]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Gb|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Gb|c]]</sup> 12:16, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
! colspan="2" |

!
::::I think reporting it to [[WP:Suspected sock puppets]] is the best thing to do. Gb is right, it is pretty obvious that there's sockpuppetry occuring here, but SSP is still the place to go to get it dealt with. --[[User:Hughcharlesparker|Hugh<small>Charles</small>Parker]] <small>([[User talk:Hughcharlesparker|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Hughcharlesparker|contribs]])</small> 12:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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:::::Erm, I've already dealt with it...although my previously reply was a bit vague, so I've expanded on it now. If you mean what to do with future instances, then yes, definitely add them to the permanent backlog that is [[WP:SSP]] ;-) <sub>[[User:Gb|Gb]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Gb|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Gb|c]]</sup> 13:09, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
!

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== Electrical Engineering ==
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: Anyone can create an account on wikipedia - you're welcome here regardless of your qualifications. Just click on the ''Log in / create account'' link at the top right of any wikipedia page. You don't even have to create an account to edit, but there are [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|advantages to doing so]]. --[[User:Hughcharlesparker|Hugh<small>Charles</small>Parker]] <small>([[User talk:Hughcharlesparker|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Hughcharlesparker|contribs]])</small> 12:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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:{{astray}} [[Special:Contributions/Zain Ebrahim111|Zain Ebrahim]] ([[User talk:Zain Ebrahim111|talk]]) 12:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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== Vandalism ==
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Can anybody please take a look at this contributions ([[Special:Contributions/Bopped_Kia]])? For example [[Uncle Sam]]. Thank you. --[[User:Thgoiter|тнояsтеn]] [[User talk:Thgoiter|&hArr;]] 12:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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:Already blocked, thanks for the heads up. For future reference, vandalism is best reported to [[WP:AIV|this page]] where it'll get a quicker response. <sub>[[User:Gb|Gb]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Gb|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Gb|c]]</sup> 12:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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::As I'm contributing to the German Wikipedia I didn't know the right place for my enquiry. Thanks though. --[[User:Thgoiter|тнояsтеn]] [[User talk:Thgoiter|&hArr;]] 14:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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== Zaccanopoli ==
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Anyone want to take a look at the [[Zaccanopoli]] article. I have trouble believing anything in the article is true. [[User:Wesman1023|Kobain]] ([[User talk:Wesman1023|talk]]) 13:59, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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:It appears to be a real place, but I've removed the obvious vandalism. Thanks for catching that! <b><font color="darkorange">[[User:Tnxman307|TN]]</font>‑<font color="darkblue"><big><big>[[User talk:Tnxman307|X]]</big></big></font>-<font color="red">[[Special:Contributions/Tnxman307|Man]]</font></b> 14:01, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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== Help ==
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:[[User:Tutwakhamoe|Tutwakhamoe]] ([[User talk:Tutwakhamoe|talk]]) 02:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
I am working on my first article/page in a "sandbox", my user page, as suggested. Three questions:
::You are amazing, thank you so much! [[User:Zanahary|Zanahary]] ([[User talk:Zanahary|talk]]) 03:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
:1. Citing sources: I am pulling information from fact sheets, overviews, and annual reports supplied by the user group, the subject of my article. Do I cite those as sources or is it not necessary or do I just cite the user group address and user group website?
:2. How do I move the content from my user page to Wikipedia once I am ready? Start a page and copy and paste?
:3. If the article is accepted by Wikipedia, when and how will I be able to upload and display a logo for the user group?
Thank you. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:CarinJohns|CarinJohns]] ([[User talk:CarinJohns|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CarinJohns|contribs]]) 15:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: Sorry to just dump some homework on you but take a look at [[Wikipedia:Your first article]], [[WP:CORP]] and [[WP:FAQ/Business]] and [[WP:RS]]. In order to upload an image your account needs to be 4 days old with 10 edits. <b>[[User:Gtstricky|<font STYLE="verdana" COLOR ="#990000">'''''Gtstricky'''''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Gtstricky|Talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Gtstricky|C]]</sup></b> 16:15, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

::To be more specific to answer these questions:
:1. You want to be as specific as possible when citing a source. You want someone to be able to find the exact page you are looking at if they were to check. If you only cite the website in question, it may not be easy or intuitive to find the source. If you are looking at a webpage, cite the exact URL of the page that ties to that "fact", and if you are reading a book, you should cite the page number and edition (ISBN) so someone could find it if they wanted to. [[WP:CITE]] and [[WP:CITET]] are good references for how to handle this.
:2. Once you are "autoconfirmed" (4 days and 10 edits on your account) you will have a series of new tabs appear at the top of your screen. One is named "move". You simply use that tab, which will open an easy to use dialog where you move the article to the new name. Its pretty easy, but if you have trouble or are unsure of how to use it, ask an experienced user (I can do it) to help out or show you how it works.
:3. Likewise, once you are autoconfirmed (4 days and 10 edits) you will get a new option on the LEFT side of your screen, in the "toolbox" section that says "upload file". There is an upload wizard that will walk you through the process. Before you upload, you should DEFINATELY read [[WP:IMAGE]] and [[WP:IUP]] for information on image liscencing and Wikipedia. Its complicated, and make certain you understand how to correctly tag and describe any images you upload.
:4. I know you didn't ask a question #4, but I thought it prudent to answer an implicit question you may not know you had. With regard to "acceptable" articles at Wikipedia, you should read and understand the concept of [[WP:N|notability]] at Wikipedia. In your article, you need to establish that the group/person/company/whatever has been recognized as notable by the world at large outside of Wikipedia. In order to do that, your article should cite extensive coverage of the subject in '''independent''' sources (those unconnected to the subject itself). If no one outside of Wikipedia and the subject has written about it, then it shouldn't have an article on Wikipedia. Be certain your article is able to meet that basic requirement.
:Good luck, and let us know if you need more help! --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|<small>talk</small>]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|<small>contribs</small>]] 17:55, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
I've looked at the sandbox, and there's no way that organization is going to pass muster as notable. [[:WP:WECANT|We can't have articles here on every organization on the planet; it's simply not practical.]] --[[User:Orangemike|<font color="darkorange">Orange Mike</font>]] &#x007C; [[User talk:Orangemike|<font color="orange">Talk</font>]] 21:05, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::FWIW I agree with you completely. Maybe a one sentence mention in the [[SAP AG]] article or related articles, but not a whole article to itself -- as it stands it would probably be deleted per [[WP:CSD#G11]] or [[WP:CSD#A7]]. I seriously doubt whether there is any significant coverage in any [[WP:RS]] to be found.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 21:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Requested [[Template:User Good Topic]] ==

Within [[:Category:Wikipedia featured topics templates]] there should be a [[Template:User Good Topic]] analogue to [[Template:User Featured Topic]]. Can someone throw something together.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 15:35, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

<strike>:[[:Template:User Good topics]] exists...doesn't have the behavoir of the FT template, but could be an easy fix.</strike> <small><span style="border:1px solid #955619;padding:1px;"><font style="color:#955619;">[[User:Louis Waweru|<b>Louis Waweru</b>]]</font> [[User_talk:Louis Waweru|<font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#955619;">&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 15:50, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::That is the analogue to [[:Template:User Featured topics]]. Both are needed.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 16:09, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::: Okay, I modeled one after the analogue...please let me know if something isn't linking to the right page. <small><span style="border:1px solid #955619;padding:1px;"><font style="color:#955619;">[[User:Louis Waweru|<b>Louis Waweru</b>]]</font> [[User_talk:Louis Waweru|<font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#955619;">&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 16:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Thanks.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 17:08, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::It is not working properly. It is showing on the side no matter where I place it on the page. I want it to work like {{tl|User Good Article}} in terms of page placement.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 17:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::It does not seem to be boxing correctly on my user page and is showing twice although only added once.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 17:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Sorry, I placed it on your page for you...that's why it was appearing twice. I removed it and I think it should box fine now. <small><span style="border:1px solid #955619;padding:1px;"><font style="color:#955619;">[[User:Louis Waweru|<b>Louis Waweru</b>]]</font> [[User_talk:Louis Waweru|<font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#955619;">&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 17:28, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::O.K. All seems fine now.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 17:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::One last thing. I think good in good topic status should be lower case.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 18:24, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::{{done}} - BTW, do you know of a reason why "Good topic status" and "Featured status" would be in bold? <small><span style="border:1px solid #955619;padding:1px;"><font style="color:#955619;">[[User:Louis Waweru|<b>Louis Waweru</b>]]</font> [[User_talk:Louis Waweru|<font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#955619;">&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 18:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Thanks. I guess to make them stand out.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 19:05, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Album page infoboxes are missing genres ==

I did some mass editing to some of my created album pages about 12 hours ago, but since I made the changes none of the pages are displaying the Genre section of the album. I've viewed the pages on two different computers at both home and work, and the problem persists even on pages which I haven't touched for months. Is something the matter here? [[User:Mac dreamstate|Mac dreamstate]] ([[User talk:Mac dreamstate|talk]]) 17:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
: Ah, the genre variable has been removed, see [[Template_talk:Infobox_Album#Genres]] [[User:Ling.Nut|Ling.Nut]] <sup>([[User talk:Ling.Nut|talk]]&mdash;[[User:Ling.Nut/3IAR|WP:3IAR]])</sup> 17:24, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
I see. Does that mean I should hold off editing any album pages for a while? [[User:Mac dreamstate|Mac dreamstate]] ([[User talk:Mac dreamstate|talk]]) 17:27, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::No, they should be fine to edit; it's only that one line that is under debate. Meanwhile, if you have any opinion about the matter, it is under discussion [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Music#Time_to_remove_genre_section_on_info_box.3F|here]]. --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 17:29, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks for pointing that out to me. I've been completely dumbstruck by their disappearance ever since last night! [[User:Mac dreamstate|Mac dreamstate]] ([[User talk:Mac dreamstate|talk]]) 17:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Upload a Piciture I created ==

I am not an administrator but desire to upload a logo that represents the golf tournament I am creating a page for.

Can someone help me upload the jpg image I have on my hard drive to the wiki server so that I can reference it and have it appear on the new wiki page I am creating about the golf tournament?

Thank you,

17:54, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[[User:LionsNational|LionsNational]] ([[User talk:LionsNational|talk]]) 17:54, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

:In order to upload a picture, you need to first be "autoconfirmed". That requires that you have 4 days experience and a minimum of 10 edits. Once you are autoconfirmed, there will be a whole bunch of new tools you will have access to, including the option to upload files. On the left side of the screen, under the "toolbox" header will be a link that says "Upload file". From there, a series of "wizards" can help you through the technical aspects of uploading files. Also, before you upload ANYTHING, you should read and understand Wikipedia's rather strict policies on the proper use and liscencing of images. Such information can be found at [[WP:IMAGE]] and [[WP:IUP]]. This is perhaps one of the most complicated and stringent parts of Wikipedia, so be certain you understand how to correctly tag and label your images when they are uploaded; improperly labeled and/or used images can present legal complications for the Wikimedia Foundation (wikipedia's parent compnay) and they need to be strict that intellectual property laws are followed to the letter. Good luck, and if you need any more help, feel free to ask! --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|<small>talk</small>]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|<small>contribs</small>]] 18:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

:If it is your own work please upload it to [[Commons:Main Page|Commons]] so that it is available to all the WP projects. Commons does not have autoconfirmation requirements.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 21:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Translating pages ==

Hi, is there an area/ wikiproject that deals with translating articles from other wikis? <big><span style="background-color:black"><span style="font-family: Palatino linotype">[[User:Themoridian|<span style="color:blue">The</span><span style="color:purple">'''''Morid'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Themoridian|<span style="color:red">'''''i'''''</span>]][[User:Themoridian|<span style="color:purple">'''''a'''''</span>]][[Special:contributions/Themoridian|<span style="color:blue">'''''n'''''</span>]]</span></span></big> 18:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:Check out [[WP:TIE]]. --[[User:Alinnisawest|Alinnisawest]],<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Alinnisawest|<font color="black">'''Dalek Empress'''</font>]]</sup> ([[User talk:Alinnisawest|<font color="#cf0021">'''extermination requests here]]'''</font>) 18:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::And [[WP:EIW#Translate]]. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 21:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Glasses that are too big;) ==

Hi. if you go to my user page, there at the bottom is an image of oversized glasses with a quote under it. Is there any way to compress the image? Contact me on my talk page, thanks.--[[User:Archeopteryx|Archeopteryx]] ([[User talk:Archeopteryx|talk]]) 18:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:Replied on the user's talk page. <sub>[[User:Gb|Gb]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Gb|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Gb|c]]</sup> 18:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== 'The Workers in the Vineyard' ==

I tried to create this page as a simple redirect to ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Workers_in_the_Vineyard
but it asked me not to. Any particular reason? No biggie, no rush, whenever, thanks. [[User:SmokeyTheCat|<span style="border:2px solid Red;padding:2px;"><b><font style="color:Black;background:Red" size="0">&nbsp;SmokeyTheCat&nbsp;</font></b></span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:SmokeyTheCat|<font color="Red" size = "0">•TALK•</font>]] 19:04, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:Could you elaborate on what you mean by “it asked me not to”? Did you perhaps try to redirect to the full URL rather than the article title, [[[[Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard]]]]? —[[User:TEB728|teb728]] [[User talk:TEB728|t]] [[Special:Contributions/TEB728|c]] 20:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Prize for improving articles? ==
{{resolved}}

Hello, I recall seeing a Wikipedia page somewhere where editors could request for articles to be improved, such as to Featured Article status, in exchange for a monetary reward. I can't seem to find this page, and a quick look at the archives didn't turn up anything relevant. —<font face="Palatino Linotype">[[User:Erik|Erik]]</font> ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) - 21:33, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:[[WP:REWARD]] would be the one! <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</font>]] </span></small> 21:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! :) —<font face="Palatino Linotype">[[User:Erik|Erik]]</font> ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) - 21:43, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Making a new article that needs the title of a redirect... ==

I want to make a new article for the name of a school, but when I put in the name of the school, instead of going to "An article doesn't exist," it redirects to a school that has a similar name but isn't actually called it. At the top it says it was redirected from my search term. How can I make a new article from a redirected search term? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Fedorka|Fedorka]] ([[User talk:Fedorka|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fedorka|contribs]]) 21:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
--[[User:Fedorka|Fedorka :-)]] ([[User talk:Fedorka|talk]]) 21:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:If you click on the "redirected from......" comment you will get to the original page and will be able to edit it. However there may be a very good reason for the redirect so a [[WP:DISAMBIG|disambiguation]] link may be needed. What article are you trying to create? <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</font>]] </span></small> 21:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::Theresianum (it's an academy in Vienna... it redirects to an Austrian military academy) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Fedorka|Fedorka]] ([[User talk:Fedorka|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fedorka|contribs]]) 21:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::Is the school you want to create known exactly by that name? If so go [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Theresianum&action=edit here]] and you can create the article. But if this is not the '''exact''' school name we will need a disambiguation page. You'll also want to put a [[WP:HATNOTE]] at the top of your new article to help readers learn if they are looking at the right article. (click on my blue links for more info). Also, if you wouldn't mind, when you type a comment please add four tildes ( like this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) as it signs your name automagically. Ta! <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</font>]] </span></small> 21:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::::It's known as both the Theresianum and as the Theresianum Academy (although people searching would most likely just put Theresianum). What do you think I should do? And sorry about the signature issue... I've never posted on here before... :-) --[[User:Fedorka|Fedorka :-)]] ([[User talk:Fedorka|talk]]) 21:52, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:You could write the article at [[Theresianum Academy]], and then turn the [[Theresianum]] redirect into a [[WP:DAB|disambiguation]] page to direct people to both articles. [[User:ConMan|Confusing Manifestation]]<small>([[User talk:ConMan|Say hi!]])</small> 22:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::[[Theresianum]] should be a disambiguation page with links to [[Theresian Military Academy]] and [[Theresianum Academy]] in that case (I'm assuming the one you wish to create will be notable, but in general schools will be). So you create an article at Theresianum Academy (click the red link) and then edit [[Theresianum]] per the instructions at [[WP:DISAMBIG]] to turn it into a page where our readers can choose which academy they mean. Sorry if this seems all very laborious but with so many articles it is inevitable Wikipedia will have places with more than one common name. Also, see [[WP:FIRST]] for article writing help. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</font>]] </span></small> 22:27, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


== Paragraph rendering in VisualEditor as a single template block ==
== Is it worth putting my band on Wiki or will it just be deleted? ==


The first paragraph of [[Kangina]], when opened in Visual Editor, renders as a single template block. Why is this? Is there a fix? Thanks! [[User:Zanahary|Zanahary]] ([[User talk:Zanahary|talk]]) 02:53, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Hi
:{{ping|Zanahary}} Fixed by starting a new paragraph of the wikitext in the source editor.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kangina&diff=prev&oldid=1225575296] [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 10:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)


== What should this article's title be? ==
I've been using Wikipedia for a long time now, but have never edited any page myself, which I now want to try.


Hi there, I want to write an article about Komatsu's surface mining excavators, however, am unsure what to name the article title. The model series starts from PC2000 and goes to PC8000. Why can't I name it Komatsu PC-series excavators? Because all of their other models use the PC prefix, except for their surface mining excavators all models are numbers in the thousands. Any suggestions? Best, [[User:X750|X750]]. ''[[User talk:X750|Spin a yarn?]]'' ''<sub><small>[[Special:Contributions/X750|Articles I've screwed over?]]</small></sub>'' 05:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
For my 1st attempt I really want to make a page for my band, but have a few reservations. We are a fairly well known underground band here in my city, but as New Zealand isnt a massive place we are not going to be known outside of it (aside from Myspace). My concern is that I would be wasting my time, that I would make a page for my band and it would get deleted as we are not famous and cannot site lots of sources proving we are real etc (though we do have a myspace page). I wanted to put a few wee pictures up and maybe a song for people to listen to and download if they like us, a way of getting used to using a Wiki and making a page for my band at the same time. Should I bother?
:{{ping|X750}} Komatsu just calls them "Surface mining excavators" at https://www.komatsu.com/en/products/excavators/surface-mining-excavators/. "Komatsu surface mining excavators" has no Google hits but I cannot think of a better name when they have many other excavators with PC numbers. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 10:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)


== How to upload a photo while editing ==
Thanks
Rush
[[User:Bloodbomb|Bloodbomb]] ([[User talk:Bloodbomb|talk]]) 22:03, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


I was editing a page related to the Kanker State. I have the ohoto of the last ruler of the state and want to upload it. I am his grandson and it is a family photo owned by me. I am not being able to upload the photo. Please guide/assist. [[User:Adityakanker|Adityakanker]] ([[User talk:Adityakanker|talk]]) 06:49, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
:You've already explained that your band is not notable. So, it would be deleted. Having a MySpace page does not indicate notability. Anyone (even pets) can have MySpace pages. Basically, Wikipedia is not for advertising a band. It is an encyclopedia for things that are already notable and do not need to be advertised. -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 22:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::Agree. See [[WP:BAND]] for more information. [[User:Tanthalas39|<font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">'''Tan'''</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:Tanthalas39|<font color="#21421E" face="Papyrus">39</font>]] 22:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


:See [[WP:UPIMAGE]]. The main issue is copyright, because unless you took the photo yourself or had permission from the person who did, it might not be suitable, although it could have a fair use rationale.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 07:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
I thought that may be the case, you didnt have to be condescending about it though. Oh wait, your American, yes you did. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bloodbomb|Bloodbomb]] ([[User talk:Bloodbomb|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bloodbomb|contribs]]) 22:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Oh ya, discrimination is surely gonna make your case... '''[[User:Grsz11|<font color="black">Grsz</font>]][[User talk:Grsz11|<b><font color="red"><sup>X</sup></font></b>]]''' 22:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:(e/c) That's a pretty large assumption there. Why are you assuming that these editors are American, and why would that mean they're condescending? The response to your question didn't seem overly condescending to me. [[User:GlassCobra|<font color="002bb8">Glass</font>]]'''[[User talk:GlassCobra|<font color="002bb8">Cobra</font>]]''' 22:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::No need to be [[WP:CIVIL|uncivil]] about it, though, Bloodbomb. [[WP:N|Notability]] is an important guideline in the Wikiworld, Tan and Kai were just explaining that. They might have been a little harsh about it, but it's your comment that's really unacceptable. Also, sign your posts with four tildes (which look like <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). Thanks, <font face="Gill Sans MT">[[User:IceUnshattered|I]][[Special:Contributions/IceUnshattered|<font color="#9CBCC9">''c''</font>]][[User:IceUnshattered|<font color="darkblue">eUnshattered</font>]] <sup>[ [[User talk:IceUnshattered|t]] ]</sup></font> 22:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Perhaps this [[WP:No one cares about your garage band|essay]] is in order. [[User:Garycompugeek|Garycompugeek]] ([[User talk:Garycompugeek|talk]]) 23:02, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Be nice! He/she/it is obviously intelligent and has good command of grammar, and at least he/she/it asked, rather than just creating an article.
::::Release an album, then you can have an article - but only if [[WP:COI|you don't make it yourself]]. [[User: Dendodge|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:#999FFF">Den</em><em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:Gainsboro">dodge</em>''']]|<small>[[User talk:Dendodge|Talk]]</small><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Dendodge|Contribs]]</sup> 23:16, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


== Contribute content ==
(undent) [[User:Bloodbomb|Bloodbomb]] asked a question [[WP:AGF|in good faith]]. While the initial brusque answers are factually correct (it would take a brave man to bet on a new article about a [[WP:BAND|band]] surviving long against the tender mercies of [[m:Deletionism|deletionists]], who regard band articles as a [[food group]]), a more constructive response would be to tell [[User:Bloodbomb|Bloodbomb]] that creating new articles on Wikipedia is perhaps the most difficult, high-risk way to get started as an editor. For a new article to survive, especially in the topic area of bands where new articles die faster than replacement troops in the [[Battle of Stalingrad]], the article's creator must have more than a first-timer's knowledge of Wikipedia's rules. The conservative approach is to begin by making small edits to existing articles, study what other editors do to your edits, and learn to look up the various [[WP:POLICY|policies and guidelines]] that the other editors are (or should be) following when they edit something. (I try to help, by adding [[Help:Link|links]] in my [[Help:Edit summary|edit summaries]] that explain what I do to articles, and why.) Over time, the new editor will learn what survives on Wikipedia and what doesn't, giving him/herself a stronger chance of writing a new article that might survive. [[User:Bloodbomb|Bloodbomb]], you should also peruse the [[WP:FA#Music|featured articles about music]]. To pick one at random, see [[Janet Jackson]]. In particular, see [[Janet Jackson#Footnotes]]. Even if some deletionist on Wikipedia had never heard of Janet Jackson, he or she could easily see from the huge number of [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] in those [[WP:FOOT|footnotes]] that this Janet Jackson person is clearly notable. If you want to write an article about your band that survives, write your article to the same standard as those other featured articles about music. As even a cursory glance will indicate, a first-time Wikipedia editor is many hours of study away from mastering all the Wikipedia arcana that goes into creating a [[WP:FACR|featured article]]. Perhaps the single biggest hurdle is learning to find reliable sources and put them into footnotes. See [[WP:RS]], [[WP:CITE]], [[WP:CITET]], and [[WP:FOOT]]. You can learn to make footnotes by adding them to articles that need them - and [[Jon Lord|Lord]] knows Wikipedia has [[:Category:All articles with unsourced statements|plenty of articles that need them]]. Another way to learn is to [[Help:Watch|watch]] the [[WP:AFD|Articles for deletion]] page. When you see (yet) another band article coming up for deletion debate, often the problem is that the article lacks the kind of sourcing you find in [[Janet Jackson]]. See if you can add those sources and rescue the article from deletion. Once you can save a few articles for other bands, you will be much more ready to write your own article with defenses already built in. Good luck, and thanks for asking on the Help desk rather than forging ahead in blind faith as so many others do, to their grief. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 23:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:And of course there is the [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] problem, but I regard that as secondary if you learn how to write [[WP:FA|featured articles]]. Only a tiny percentage of Wikipedia's editors know how to write featured articles, so conflicts of interest become much more likely in the average case of someone writing about something they have a personal involvement with. Who would write an article about a band anyway, besides members of the group, or their fans? If only disinterested parties could write about bands, we probably wouldn't have any band articles. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 23:29, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::If you're not notable enough for Wikipedia yet, see [[WP:OUTLET]] and [[wikiindex:WikiIndex]]. And in the meantime, practice editing on other bands' articles on Wikipedia. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 23:32, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


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    May 22[edit]

    Template dagger malfunctioning[edit]

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
    Closing this discussion since it's redundant to the same question asked by the same person 20 minutes earlier at the Wikipedia Teahouse. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Immediate assistance required because template:dagger currently outing this †, Anoop Bhatia (talk) 01:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Anoopspeaks: You just asked about this at WP:THQ#Template dagger malfunctioning. There's no thing to ask the very same question on a different forum, particularly within 20 minutes of each other. Please be patient and wait for someone to repsond to your Teahouse question (some people already have). The world isn't going to end due to the dagger template malfunctioning, if it even is malfunctioning in the first place. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    updation state president TAMILNADU G.SRINIVASAN NATIONAL PEOPLES PARTY FROM JUNE 21ST 2023[edit]

    updation state president TAMILNADU G.SRINIVASAN NATIONAL PEOPLES PARTY FROM JUNE 21ST 2023 120.60.117.218 (talk) 05:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Can you provide a published reliable source for the specific change you want to make? Cullen328 (talk) 05:18, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi IP user, I just wanted to point out that you should avoid typing in all caps as this can be perceived as yelling by other editors. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 19:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Newcomer task[edit]

    It appears that the “so called” Newcomer task is already a disaster in progress. Despite being a regular editor I had not heard of it until 17 May 2024, when I noticed a piece of text in Highway 1 (Queensland) had been removed and replaced with identical text, and with no explanation other than “Newcomer task” on 16 May 2024.

    I asked the question “How can the removal of information be described as a newcomer task?”. I have since been accused of making an unreferenced removal. How can this occur, and just what is a “Newcomer task”?

    When this is sorted out please tak a look at Abernethy Road, where I asked a similar question and have not received any response. Downsize43 (talk) 05:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Downsize43: Those "Newcomer task" tags link to this page which should explain more thoroughly than I will be able to do here. Essentially, they are edits by new editors made to pages tagged as needing cleanup. It isn't an endorsement of the edit in any way, it is just intended to flag that the editor is new and was brought to that article rather than finding it on their own. Tollens (talk) 05:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'll additionally note that the edit of 15 May on Abernethy Road didn't remove text and then replace it with identical text, it instead added two citations. Tollens (talk) 05:24, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also on Highway 1 (Queensland), you may have been looking at the wrong diff. The edit flagged as a newcomer task did not remove any information – the edit removing information was another editor undoing the previous "newcomer task" edit because it was unsourced. Tollens (talk) 05:26, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Downsize43. My first observation is that newcomers often make mistakes, and that is not surprising. I suggest that you read Wikipedia:Growth Team features which explains newcomer tasks in great detail. If you still have concerns, then Wikipedia talk:Growth Team features is probably the best place to discuss them. Cullen328 (talk) 05:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Finally found something on Archive 1. Hardly the best place for it. Urgently need to get it "out there" somewhere and let the world know. Downsize43 (talk) 06:41, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Downsize43: Both your descriptions of what happened in the newcomer task are incorrect so I wonder whether you know how diffs work. In the page history [1], click the "prev" link in the line tagged with "Newcomer task" to get [2]. The left-hand side is before the edit and the right-hand side is after. The edit added this text: The highway is part of the famous "Big Lap" on National Route 1. A Google search shows it's correct but it was unsourced and maybe not important enough for the lead so somebody reverted it in this edit. This time "Newcomer task" is on the left side which is before the edit so the removal is not itself the newcomer task. See more at Help:Diff. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:23, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @PrimeHunter: Whichever way you look at it the fact remains that the replacement of the previously removed text has no reference, therefore it is entitled to be questioned or removed. I was merely questioning why there was no reference for the added “fact”. Downsize43 (talk) 07:22, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Update New Description for Company Profile[edit]

    Hi Team,

    I want to update Godrej Properties current description. Could you please help me on this? 182.78.53.202 (talk) 06:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    It depends on what you want to say and whether there is a conflict of interest involved in some way with the company; see also WP:BOSS. It also has to be said that Godrej Properties may have difficulty meeting the general notability guideline in its current form due to an excess of primary sourcing.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:06, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • On Talk:Godrej Properties, make your edit request(s). Be sure to make it clear that you're an employee of the company that's the subject of the article. -- Hoary (talk) 09:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Audio timing[edit]

    Is it possible to make the audio start from a specific second? For example: an audio is 20 seconds long and I want it to start at second 13. Is it possible to do this? 14:07, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @W!kipedista: |start=0:13. See Wikipedia:Extended image syntax#Sound files. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:45, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! 14:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    correcting an error of fact in an article[edit]

    In the article on Frederick Russell Burnham, in the "Mexico" section, it describes a presidential summit taking place in 1909. It lists a number of agencies providing security and includes the FBI. The FBI did not exist in 1909. 2600:6C40:5800:4BD:7C19:89AF:F8E1:243E (talk) 15:53, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Every article has a talk page, in this case Talk: Frederick Russell Burnham, which is where discussion of article content should typically take place. Note that our article on the Federal Bureau of Investigation does not quite back up your own claim. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 16:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Changing infobox to...?[edit]

    So I'm in a bit of a conundrum here. I wanted to update Topps but apparently, it was acquired by Fanatics in 2022. How would I go around changing it? Is it a subsidiary now? Klinetalkcontribs 15:59, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you want to find out if Topps is a subsidiary or how to update the infobox? this suggests that Topps is a subsidiary. TSventon (talk) 18:41, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @TSventon Update the infobox to a subsidiary, seems complicated for a first time affair so some guidance would be helpful. Klinetalkcontribs 00:42, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Kline, the infobox pages are usually helpful. I checked Template:Infobox company and found
    "type
    Type of ownership in the company (not their legal form of incorporation), wiki-linked where appropriate. To list percentages owned of a private company, use the ownership parameter. Available types:
    [[Privately held company|Private]]
    [[Public company|Public]]
    [[Subsidiary]]
    [[Division (business)|Division]]"
    So Topps could be a division or a subsidiary.
    If you want help finding information about the company you could try Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. TSventon (talk) 05:29, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Map alignment[edit]

    At Timnath, I tried to add a couple of locator maps. Why don't they align right even when I use the parameter float=right ? Edit: and why one of the label has "class=notpageimage" written under it? trespassers william (talk) 21:04, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Danny lost: They are both at the right margin for me. Where do you see them and what is your browser? "class=notpageimage" ended in the wrong place because there was a wrong ]]. I have removed it.[4] PrimeHunter (talk) 22:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you.
    I saw this on Chrome, both pc and mobile. On mobile I use the monobook style w/ the option "Enable responsive mode (Adapt layout to screen size on mobile) - on. Maybe it's turning it off that helped? When logged off, on mobile both maps are center-page. But I guess this is a default override behaviour?
    trespassers william (talk) 11:36, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Danny lost: It's apparently a feature of responsive mode. If the window is deemed too narrow to get a good layout by placing text to the left of an image then float right is ignored. It doesn't matter whether location map templates were used. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:02, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Blocked?![edit]

    I tried to add information about a company I co-founded and received a "Blocked notice" from Wikipedia. I have no idea why this is the case and would like the Block removed asap. I do not understand how to do this. Lmfertig (talk) 21:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Lmfertig: What was the article and what username were you using? DuncanHill (talk) 21:52, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Lmfertig, editing with a conflict of interest is a serious problem, especially if undisclosed. Please comply with that behavioral guideline. Cullen328 (talk) 08:07, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    May 23[edit]

    Picture[edit]

    Hi!

    I am creating my profile on Wiki and I cannot upload a picture I took myself and own - there should be no issue but I receive a notification (We could not determine whether this file is suitable for Wikimedia Commons. Please only upload photos that you took yourself with your camera, or see what else is acceptable. See the guide to make sure the file is acceptable and learn how to upload it on Wikimedia). Can you help please?

    Jana Jana Koci (talk) 02:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm not quite sure what exactly did you mean by "profile" here. If you meant User Page, which is a page that tells other editors about your activities on Wikipedia, then personal photos are not necessary. If you meant a Wikipedia article, however, please note that creating an article about yourself or anyone/anything related to you is strongly discouraged.
    I see that you've already uploaded a photo of yourself. If that's the image in question, I think it is ready to be used already. I would agree with the notification in that it is hard to tell that you took the photo all by yourself. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 03:25, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Jana Koci, you have created a draft for an article about yourself. This is not a good idea: please read and digest Wikipedia:Autobiography. -- Hoary (talk) 07:57, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Jimfbleak subsequently deleted your draft for an article about yourself. -- Hoary (talk) 01:02, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Chen Zihan -[edit]

    the birth year of Chen Zihan is incorrect. indicated in Wikipedia is 1978 but her birth year should be 1975. 103.6.151.158 (talk) 06:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The birth date discrepancy is already covered in the biography, so I fail to see what your point is. Cullen328 (talk) 06:51, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing[edit]

    Hi! I tried to edit the site of Avri Levitan, because everything that is noted there sounds like AI and he wanted me to change that. But everytime I edit something, it is gone the next day. May somebody help me with that? 91.67.220.216 (talk) 08:47, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, IP editor. Your IP address has not edited Avri Levitan and other IP edits in recent months have not complied with policy. You should not be editing any Wikipedia article on behalf of another person. Please read WP:BOSS. If Levitan or anyone else has a problem with the article, then Talk: Avri Levitan is the place for those people to discuss it. Make formal edit requests there. Setting up a Wikipedia account, which is free and easy, will facilitate communication. Cullen328 (talk) 08:59, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Printing Wikipedia[edit]

    How come I cannot print Wikipedia articles? I know my printer and computer are working as they print other stuff, but there doesn't seem to be a connection when I try to print Wikipedia Slinovitz (talk) 10:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Help:Printing may be of help. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 11:07, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Slinovitz In addition to that advice, one alternative is to use the "Download as PDF" tool and subsequently print that version locally. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:36, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    No left click! No {{Inspect diff}} thing, impossible to search from Watchlist[edit]

    Watchlist refreshes but no inspect diff, no operative links (hist, diff etc). Takes five mins to load. Every other page is per normal. OK. Is this due to using code etc so old we would build a better encyclopedia with the walls of Lascaux ?! Wot gives? ——Serial Number 54129 13:48, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Serial Number 54129 My watchlist is doing all the things it normally does: I use the default WP:VECTOR22 skin. If you are not using that, try it. Then report to WP:VPT if the problem persists. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:56, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I just wish I could find out why it literally changed out of the blue—a couple of hours ago, it was fine, you see. Anyway, thank you very much Mike. ——Serial Number 54129 14:01, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Mabel Normand[edit]

    Hello, I am great-nephew to Mabel Normand and I have been promoting my great aunt Mabel’s career and life for 50yrs of my 75. The biography which appears in Wikipedia mention the same old hash. I have had her first biography published in FILMS IN REVIEW Sept 1974. I have given interviews about her life & career and also give talks and know a considerable amount of information from the family point of view and our own resources which haven’t seen light of day. I would like to write something about my great aunt which comes from my knowledge of those facts. In the present biography in Wikipedia things are mentioned like the Broadway Musical Mack & Mabel to which I contributed to the Librettist, The Stevie Nix song MabelNormand but my public protest is not indicated. Can you tell me how I can legitimately have a say in this biography. It is not entirely accurate nor does it give a fair look at Mabel’s contribution as an early pioneer of motion pictures. Instead it sadly dwells on the negative incidents and not enough on her positive contributions or her private personal happiness events of life nor her deep convictions for fairness in life for the poor. There is no mention of her charitable acts to support orphans and her deeply held religious convictions. These are facts of her life which are as important as the same old rehash. Also Mabel was christened Mabel not Ambel and her father was Claude not Clod. Where do people get this nonsense from? I would like to write the story as according to the facts we her family have. Personally I deeply offended at having to endure any longer this bullying scandal invented in Hollywood Babylon after her death. As her blood relative I have every right to have my say and I would be grateful for your help and advice. The biography in Wikipedia as it stands is not fully factual and has become more fantasised each time it is edited. Who is the person editing it now. At one point I had through Wikipedia the choice to review what was written or contributed by the writer of the time about 5 years ago. What has happened to being able to contact the editor directly. As a living relative I would like to be included in the mini bio as I have seen in other bio’s. with thanks for your help and understanding in this matter Yours sincerely Stephen Normand Great-Nephew of Mabel Normand Stephen Great-Nephew of Mabel Normand (talk) 15:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The way Wikipedia works is that all content is based on what reliable sources have already written about a subject, we can't base content on your personal experience. However, it does sound as if you have done some press yourself, so that could possibly be used as a basis for some article content. Obviosuly you have a conflict of interest here, so the way for you to contribute would be to suggest changes at Talk:Mabel Normand. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 15:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Is there a reason why you're not using your old account, @Mack&Mabel18, on which you signed off similarly in this comment? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:39, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    One thing that I can say for certain is that Hollywood Babylon is not a reliable source for anything. It is sensationalistic trash filled with proven falsehoods. Cullen328 (talk) 18:06, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "in 1975, The New York Times said of it, "If a book such as this can be said to have charm, it lies in the fact that here is a book without one single redeeming merit."" Yeah, that's not exactly a ringing endorsement. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:34, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Article Review[edit]

    How to receive an article review? How long of a wait is normal wait time? Article is in "draft" ready to be published draft:Nerijus Glezekas.

    Thank you Petrichor2.0 (talk) 17:04, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    It can take some time, as of right now there are 2,750 pending submissions in Category:Pending AfC submissions, the oldest of which has been pending for three months. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 17:16, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Petrichor2.0 The draft now has the previous decline notices restored. There is now a big blue box which would allow it to be re-submitted to review. However, you should not do that until you have updated the draft to address the concerns of the previous reviewers. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your answer, I really appreciate it. I have been perfecting the article for year now, adding notable sources and addressing the issues previewers found. Hopefully, it will be to their liking now. Petrichor2.0 (talk) 17:27, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Petrichor2.0, your draft is overtly promotional and shot through with non-neutral phrases. It needs heavy editing to bring it into compliance with the Neutral point of view, which is a core content policy. Cullen328 (talk) 18:29, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    An unreferenced sentence such as He is recognized for his musicianship, substantial lyrical work and charismatic stage personality (who says so?) is blatantly promotional and completely unacceptable. Everything in the article must be credited to a reliable independent source. Shantavira|feed me 08:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Petrichor2.0 Against my advice, you have re-submitted the draft and I predict it will be declined again. Whole sections (e.g. "Influences") are uncited, which is against the policies for biographies of living people because of lack of verification. The other comments made above are also still relevant. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I've given Petrichor's draft an edit. I don't know if the subject meets notability, but at least it is not promotional anymore. Zanahary (talk) 02:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Harv errors[edit]

    Hi Folks!! On the Rudolf Roessler article which I updated recently its coming up with harv errors in orange. I don't know what the problem is. Any ideas? scope_creepTalk 21:05, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Scope creep: I'm not seeing any harv errors in orange. Did you resolve this yourself since you did further edit the article after posting this question? If not, perhaps you can indentify the reference or references that are showing error messages. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:00, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Marchjuly: Its seems to be working. I checked it on Opera and no sign of the errors. I use Firefox and switched everything off, all the add-in and still there, restarted my pc. It states in the first ref "Harv error: linked from CITEREFAccoceQuet1967" in orange. Its weird. scope_creepTalk 22:10, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Marchjuly: Possibly one of the scripts im using that has a reporting bug. scope_creepTalk 22:11, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Marchjuly: Its all of the references being reported. This is a link [5] scope_creepTalk 22:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Was it really necessary to ping me three times in the same discussion thread within a seven-minute period? Doing so reminds me of people who repeatedly tap on the bell at the front desk of a hotel or at the register counter of a restaurant because they're unable to wait to be help or because they're not being helped as quickly as they want. Anyway, it seems like DuncanHill as figured out the nature of the problem you're experiencing; so, perhaps things will now be resolved. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:33, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I see it, and also on Alexander von Humboldt. The error messages are generated by User:Trappist the monk/HarvErrors.js. The documentation for that says "This is a "wrong section" error; You included short footnote {{sfn|Anderson|2021}} inline, and there is a valid full citation for it in the bottom matter, but it's in the wrong section, such as "Further reading". It should be in either "Bibliography", or "Works cited" (which must be a level two section heading). Dark orange by default." As far as I can see it should not be showing on these pages. Ping @Trappist the monk: DuncanHill (talk) 22:33, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I do not see the messages that you are complaining about. I'm using the latest version of Chrome and have looked at the offending articles with it and with ms Edge. It has been said here that the messages are not appearing in the Opera browser so that suggests that this may be a Firefox-only issue.
    Trappist the monk (talk) 13:20, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Trappist the monk: I use Edge and I see them. DuncanHill (talk) 16:47, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Barry Devorzon[edit]

    I am Barry Devorzon and on May21,2024 I edited my Wikipedia Bio to correct errors, adjust time line and add additional information. When I was finished I hit Publish. When I search on my name the original Bio information is displayed instead of the newly edited bio I submitted inMay 21, 2024. What is the problem, or does it take a certain amount of time for someone to sign off on it before it will be posted? Bdevorzon (talk) 21:42, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You've edited the talk page, but your contribution history does not indicate you edited the article itself; if you think you did, it didn't work. You shouldn't be editing the article directly anyway; please use the talk page to propose edits as edit requests. 331dot (talk) 21:51, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Bdevorzon. Did you by chance happen to read the responses you received to Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1225#Barry Devorzon? They contain information that you might find helpful. Some additional information was also added to your user talk page, including suggestions on how to ask for assistance if you feel that the content written about you on Wikipedia is incorrect or otherwise out-of-date. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:55, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    search box[edit]

    I can't find the search box on the home page. Can you help me Alanwexler2 (talk) 22:00, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Assuming that you're referring to the English Wikipedia homepage, the search box is on the top right for desktop, or would appear after tapping the magnifier icon for mobile webpage. If you still can't find the searchbox, you can still search with Google by typing site:en.wikipedia.org after your search phrase. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 23:20, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Alanwexler2: As you're a new user and it doesn't appear you're editing from a mobile device, the search field should be at the top of the page in the centre. If you can't see it, assuming you're using a Windows computer, you can make it active by using the key combination Alt+⇧ Shift+F. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:13, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    May 24[edit]

    I want to propose a mass renaming of ALL Chinese train stations - how do I do so?[edit]

    Since the WP:COMMONNAME of Chinese train stations is now the pinyin of the cardinal direction rather than the cardinal direction (e.g. "Hangzhoudong Railway Station" instead of "Hangzhou East railway station", "Shanghainan Railway Station" instead of "Shanghai South railway station"), I would like to move all the articles of train stations across China as such. However, there must be thousands of articles that I would have to change. Where can I propose this change? Félix An (talk) 01:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    An RFC is probably your best bet. You might want to notify relevant Wikiprojects like WikiProject Trains or WikiProject China. Alternatively, if you're 100% sure that it's not controversial, you could use {{subst:requested move}}; the documentation has more information on how to do multiple pages. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:33, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Félix An, maybe I was sleepy, but it took me some time to work out what you were saying. But I imagine that you mean this: "Since the English name used by China Railway for any Chinese train station consisting of a place name plus cardinal direction now doesn't use the place name in pinyin plus a cardinal direction in English (such as 'Hangzhou East railway station') but instead renders the cardinal direction too in pinyin (such as 'Hangzhoudong railway station'), ..." I suppose you'll either have to provide evidence that the latter really are the common names, or have to argue that one or more other factors should outweigh the criterion of commonness. -- Hoary (talk) 04:32, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That's interesting, but likely controversial, especially when there are Chinese OTAs such as trip.com are using the English cardinal directions rather than pinyin. Do open a discussion first before doing or requesting for the mass move. Using the Chinese cardinal directions is definitely WP:OFFICIAL at the very least though, as reflected on the 12306 app. – robertsky (talk) 06:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I see that Brussels-midi is a redirect to Brussels-South railway station, but Paris Gare du Nord is a redirect to Gare du Nord, so there's no consistent policy here. (There are direct trains to both from London. In my experience my fellow Brits refer to them by their French names.) Maproom (talk) 06:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think this is going to go through, but generally you'd want to make a post on WP:NCZH, MOS:ZH, or both. Remsense 06:22, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    how to create a wikipedia page[edit]

    How do i create a wikipedia page for myself Tanaaz Bhatia (talk) 05:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Tanaaz Bhatia, you mean, a page about yourself? If this is what you mean, you do not create such a page. Please read Wikipedia:Autobiography. (Attempts are not actually prohibited, but they usually fail, after wasting various people's time.) -- Hoary (talk) 05:31, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    If empty[edit]

    Can someone please help me edit a template using {{if empty}}. if parameter |template= is empty, the word "article" need to pop up. example:

    {{template|{{if empty |[[Template:{{{template|}}}|article]] |article}}
    

    it previews like [[Template:|article]] note: the parameter |template= is a link. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 15:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Perhaps this instead?
    {{#if:{{{template|}}}|[[Template:{{{template|}}}|template]]|article}}
    article
    Trappist the monk (talk) 15:36, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 06:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    cant edit the page[edit]

    cant edit the page Raangii (talk) 18:36, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You haven't indiacted the name of the page you can't edit, so all we can do is guess, but as a brand-new account you are not autoconfirmed so the issue is probably page protection of some sort. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:40, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Calexico High School Denecof (talk) 22:35, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Attended Calexico High School not Central High School. Denecof (talk) 22:37, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So you've already said at Talk:Primo Villanueva, Denecof. Good, that's where to say it. But you need to cite a reliable source for saying so. -- Hoary (talk) 23:46, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Source Reliability[edit]

    Hi all, I'm working on a draft for a grade-II listed factory (here for anybody interested). I was wondering if someone could look at this pdf source and give their thoughts on its reliability. It covers events which are otherwise difficult to find elsewhere, but editorial oversight and the company's incentives to produce the report are questionable. Pahunkat (talk) 22:45, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Biased sources can still be reliable for facts. Section 6, which lays out the consultancy's argumentation regarding development of the site, is probably too biased to cite, but the rest of the report doesn't seem problematic in my opinion. Folly Mox (talk) 23:16, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Alright, thanks Folly Mox. Pahunkat (talk) 10:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Tank Dumars[edit]

    Video Game Charcter in NCAA 14 Dynasty mode 172.249.42.137 (talk) 23:42, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? -- Hoary (talk) 23:47, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    May 25[edit]

    Submitting material[edit]

    How does one add a Wikipedia entry for, say, a new book series or its fictional characters? 92.25.136.63 (talk) 01:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Does the book/series meet these guidelines for inclusion? Zanahary (talk) 02:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Fictional characters are notable only when reliable, published sources that are entirely independent of the book, the author and the publisher devote significant attention to the fictional character. Not passing mentions, but delving deeply. Cullen328 (talk) 04:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I need help from a Wikitable wizard[edit]

    Hello!
    I'm working on Sikidy and want to copy a table from a source. The table has some complicated headers, with some nesting. Would anyone be willing to help me out with them? I can't seem to figure out how to do them. Below are the header rows alone (which in the wikitable I would want to all be shaded dark, as headers are)

    Thank you very much! Zanahary (talk) 02:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    With visual editing, you'll need to have a 3×5 header, and select the cells to be merged to form the long cells. As for shading, switch to source editing and change "|" of each cell to "!". You can copy the following table:
    Tutwakhamoe (talk) 02:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You are amazing, thank you so much! Zanahary (talk) 03:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Paragraph rendering in VisualEditor as a single template block[edit]

    The first paragraph of Kangina, when opened in Visual Editor, renders as a single template block. Why is this? Is there a fix? Thanks! Zanahary (talk) 02:53, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Zanahary: Fixed by starting a new paragraph of the wikitext in the source editor.[6] PrimeHunter (talk) 10:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    What should this article's title be?[edit]

    Hi there, I want to write an article about Komatsu's surface mining excavators, however, am unsure what to name the article title. The model series starts from PC2000 and goes to PC8000. Why can't I name it Komatsu PC-series excavators? Because all of their other models use the PC prefix, except for their surface mining excavators all models are numbers in the thousands. Any suggestions? Best, X750. Spin a yarn? Articles I've screwed over? 05:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @X750: Komatsu just calls them "Surface mining excavators" at https://www.komatsu.com/en/products/excavators/surface-mining-excavators/. "Komatsu surface mining excavators" has no Google hits but I cannot think of a better name when they have many other excavators with PC numbers. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How to upload a photo while editing[edit]

    I was editing a page related to the Kanker State. I have the ohoto of the last ruler of the state and want to upload it. I am his grandson and it is a family photo owned by me. I am not being able to upload the photo. Please guide/assist. Adityakanker (talk) 06:49, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    See WP:UPIMAGE. The main issue is copyright, because unless you took the photo yourself or had permission from the person who did, it might not be suitable, although it could have a fair use rationale.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Contribute content[edit]

    How to contribute content to wikipedia Sonal Shivagunde (talk) 09:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Start with WP:TUTORIAL. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]