Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe J Thomas (actor)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 02:29, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Joe J Thomas (actor)

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Non-notable voice actor (most of his career seems to be fairly minor roles). Article is written by the subject, so conflict of interest is apparent. CyberGhostface (talk) 20:55, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

• Delete No notable roles listed. Edward321 (talk) 23:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
• Delete No evidence of sifnificant roles. no reliable sources. Duffbeerforme (talk) 09:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Perhaps you could all give me a hand with this. I'm the article's author. I would like to be able to provide information on my career to my growing list of fans. I understand that this is an Autobiography, and that COI exists. I have been up front and honest about being the author. I've tried to be as factual as possible in my edits, and have provide some notable roles (ie. Lex Luthor in Mortal Kombat, and Raven in Vesperia - which helped to sell out the Xbox360 in Japan this year, and Sawatari in Bleach is a major supporting character). I have numerous notable stage roles, but have left many of them off to focus this article on Voice Over work.

Sorry to be a bit of a Wiki-Noob, but please let me know what you'd need to see to prevent this article from being deleted. Joeactor (talk) 14:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• Delete (be nice to the newbies, everyone!) sadly, joe, we have to go with delete on this one--but here's why: Wikipedia is not a web server, web hosting service, or other place for self-published material. It is instead an encyclopedia -- which means that articles should all have third party sources, verifiability, and notability -- which means that the general practice is that we don't write articles about ourselves -- which means that your page about yourself will likely be deleted, just like my page about myself was deleted when I was new to Wikipedia. And since the article basically already exists at User:Joeactor/Sandbox (which is an appropriate place), then it will probably get deleted. You could also move it to something like User:Joeactor/Joe J Thomas (actor) if you'd really like to keep it.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Paul. The "User" page is a good second option. One additional question: Can User:Joeactor/Joe J Thomas (actor) be referenced by other Wiki pages? You see, I originally started my page because my role in Marvel Ultimate Alliance was incorrectly assigned to another Joe Thomas (darn common name!), so I'd like to keep the rest of Wiki accurate by pointing to User:Joeactor/Joe J Thomas (actor) if that's allowable. Joeactor (talk) 15:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• comment oh, you bet! Check out User:Paulmcdonald/deletedcoach to show a directory of articles I'm working on to re-introduce to Wikipedia.--Paul McDonald (talk) 15:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
• comment Putting aside COI issues, the guidelines for notablity for entertainers are here and the general guidelines are here. What you need is someone not connected to you or your performances publishing something non trivial about you in Reliable sources. Read through these three pages and you will have a good idea how to make a page that lasts. As to your question about refering from the rest of Wiki to an article in your user page the answer is no, the guidelines say One should never create links from a mainspace article to any userpage. Duffbeerforme (talk) 11:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
  • I stand corrected Thanks! what I meant was that other users could view the web page, not that they should "link" to it from an article page.--Paul McDonald (talk) 13:53, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
• question Thank you Duffbeerforme - very helpful information. I do have one question, though. I originally created the entry to address an incorrect link to Joe_Thomas_(actor), who was credited with voicing Marvel Ultimate Alliance. How can this correction be made if there is no "Joe J Thomas" entry to refer to? Joeactor (talk) 14:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Just remove the link and say "The Joe Thomas that this article links to isn't the one on this game".--CyberGhostface (talk) 14:17, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

As CyberGhostface says, remove the wiki link. Change it to unlinked text with the name as shown in the games credits. Also the game has a IMBD page. You can add an external link to the game page to provide a link to somewhere that has information about who voiced the role. IMDB is not a reliable source for showing notability or as a good source for verifying information but it can be a good place to link to as outside info. Duffbeerforme (talk) 14:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

I have added a link to imdb on the game article. Duffbeerforme (talk) 14:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

• Delete little more than a CV which does not assert notability. Darrenhusted (talk) 15:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 12:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 21:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.