Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portugal

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Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. Also, I note that yours is a comparatively new project. You may be interested in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide, which has a lot of information regarding project organization from several of the most successful WikiProjects. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 19:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Portuguese writer stubs

FYI, I have created and populated the stub template Template:Portugal-writer-stub and the associated category Category:Portuguese writer stubs, with the approval of Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals. —Swpb ^{talk contribs} 19:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Adding {{WikiProject Portugal}} to articles

Hi, I'm a member of this project but I haven't contributed with much since. Therefore, I wanted to know if it was ok if I added this template to every Portugal-related article I find (stubs included). I saw that it's one of the To-do items, so... I'm gonna do it as if I had a bot, except manually, starting from the categories. Parutakupiu ^{talk || contribs} 02:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Cinema stubs

The main Cinema of Portugal article has lots of list but no narrative. There are stubs at Comédia à portuguesa and Cinema Novo. I suggest that the stubs be merged into the main article. If that gets too long, the lists can be spun into other articles. -- Beardo 19:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:27, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Bullfighting

Hello. This project claims the article Bullfighting as falling under its domain, so I thought I would bring it to your attention that I have started a discussion about the article's status as a Featured Article. I would appreciate some help with it if anyone has some time. Please discuss it Talk:Bullfighting#Featured?. Thank you. --Falcorian ^(talk) 16:27, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Portuguese language FAR

Portuguese language has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. LuciferMorgan 00:20, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

FAR Bullfighting

Bullfighting has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. --Falcorian ^(talk) 01:01, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/Flag of Portugal

Hi, everyone! I've recently expanded the article Flag of Portugal and put it for peer review. If you would like to address comments and suggestions, please follow the link on the title. Thanks! Parutakupiu ^{talk || contribs} 18:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Censorship_in_Portugal

I have translated the article from Portuguese, proofreaders are welcome, comment on the article talk page, please Galf 09:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

At this point, if members have any sources they can recommend on the topic, or any aspect of the topic, particularly English-language sources, that would be greatly appreciated. Please mention them on the article's talk page. Thank you! --Fsotrain⁰⁹ 17:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Portuguese Names - Manual of Style

I believe it is part of the manual of style, but I would like to stress that unless a place, or thing has a commonly known name in English we should keep the Portuguese name as title of the article and then provide a translation, literal if possible, but sensible and an explanation in English, short and direct. as an example: "lápis azul" (blue pencil, which came to be a synonym of censorship) if someone googles for "lapis azul" articles about censorship in Portugal immediately appear, if you try "blue pencil" you get crayons.... Galf 10:04, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with you. We need someone to write the PT manual of style, so that Portuguese names, like the example you provide are preserved from needless/harmless translations.--Saoshyant ^{talk / contribs} (please join WP:Portugal or WP:SPOKEN) 13:33, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I came across "Anti-Dantas Manifest" which is at least butchering the title of the work. I here by propose that NO translation will be done into english of Names, Titles, Places, Offices where no historical translation exists. Names should be presented as: "Portuguese Name (meaningful translation of Portuguese name - ultra short explanation of name)" example: lapis azul (blue pencil - a symbol of censorship).

Same applies for text quoted in line. Important expressions should be preserved as well, such as "a bem da nação(for the good of the nation)". Also, I believe that "proper" native speakers of English, especially if their have NO knowledge of Portuguese subjects should be invited as proofreaders as they can more easily spot Grammar issues but also concepts that are missing or unclear.

See also: Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Foreign_terms Wikipedia:Manual of Style (titles) Galf 09:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I would like to suggest the creation of a Manual of Style for portugal/portuguese related subjects. This should include a simple but consistent set of rules concerning translations, place names, family names and such. your input here: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Portuguese-related articles) is welcome Galf 14:46, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Parish

Another thing I came across "Parish" means "Paróquia", "freguesia" should be translated as "Civil Parish" as it is a civil, not a religious entity. As I explained above, over-translation leads to confusion, someone who sees a country divided in "parishes" would infer that clerics have civil power, which we know isn't the case. For instance, in Poland they use Voivodship instead of "Distrito" and we know that District is actually closer to the concept of "Civil Parish" than that of Voivodship don't we? See Central_business_district if you dont believe meGalf 09:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Os Lusíadas could use some work

The Portuguese national epic Os Lusíadas is considered to be "one of the most important literary works in the world". The en Wikipedia article could use some work. Much of the current article was translated from Portuguese Wikipedia and could use some rewriting and cites. -- (I'm also crossposting this note to other projects. If you know somewhere that this should be crossposted, please do so, but please leave this original here. Thanks.) -- Writtenonsand 12:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this up to us.--Saoshyant ^{talk / contribs} (please join WP:Portugal or WP:SPOKEN) 19:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Stub Tag

Anyone in favour or replacing the portuguese flag with the shield on the stub tag? I think it's much nicer looking.Galf 08:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Flag of Portugal

After a period of peer-review, I've nominated this article for FAC. You can comment and state your opinion's here. Thanks! Parutakupiu ^{talk || contribs} 16:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Os Lusíadas

Hi, I'm just popping in to query the B rating given to the above article. The article has some serious problems, it appears to be heavily loaded with original research and contains not one citation to dissuade this impression. The work needs a serious cleanup, copy edit and the attention of an expert, as the translation has created a host of issues which have added to pre-existing problems with the text.

I understand that this article is about a topic that is very important in Portugal, and I thought I ought to bring it to your attention so it can get cleaned up and represent its topic better :) I know you don't have to listen to one users opinion... but it certainly wouldn't rate B class with myself or any users whose assessment techniques I know of. My personal suggestion would be to de-rate it to start until it has been cleaned up. I hope you haven't taken offence at this idea :) SGGH 20:50, 14 March 2007 (UTC)