User talk:ZimZalaBim

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Tom Monfils

I would like to know SPECIFICALLY for what reason you deleted the article Tom Monfils. You cited WP:BIO but did not expound on specifically WHAT was flawed. Deleting a page & protecting against re-creation is a major step and one which should not be taken lightly. It would be more appropriate to DISCUSS issues than to summarily eliminate a page, the importance & relevance of which may not be immediately apparent to you. Kaiser Vinny 14:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

First, I am familiar with the Tom Monfils murder. Sad case, but not every murder victim is worthy of an encyclopedia article. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of biographical information. Second, if you find page you created was deleted, you should always check the deletion log that is linked on the empty article page to see why it was deleted and by whom, and also read the Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? link provided, and follow the instructions there. Simply recreating the article is improper, as you did on two occasions. Now, if you feel that Mr. Monfils does fulfil the notability guidelines outlined in WP:BIO, feel free to provide the necessary reliable sources and supporting information either at the article's talk page or you can request a deletion review. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 15:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Julox

This was not copied. That website was used as a source and so was his Myspace page, all of which is general knowledge to fans like myself. Being that it is a Bio it has similar information. I changed many portions of that bio and updated it as well. I'm new to trying to update wikipedia and feel that Julox is just as relevant as many of the musicians that have articles on here already. If you could help explain what I have to do to get this to stick around I would appreciate it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Slick80 (talk • contribs).

Familiarize yourself with our copyright policy (since a large majority of the text appeared to have simply been cut & pasted), as well as our notability guidelines, especially for musicians. And, in general, Wikipedia:How to write a great article and Help:Contents might be useful, too. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 17:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I got to tell ya, I read the notability guidelines and they seem very open for inturputation. A "cult following" is certainly open for inturputation. But I shall read up even more. Slick80 17:38, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

RE:Your Signature

Okay. How's this: DTD ? Better?

IMO (and supported by the spirit of WP:SIG), its size distracts. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 01:34, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

It's creepin' me out!

Almost every time I make a mistake, you notify me about it. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's kinda creeping me out the way that it happens almost every single time. How do you do that? Do you check my contributions every minute of the day? How? A•N•N•Afoxlover 01:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Please assume good faith: its not uncommon for more experienced editors to double-check edits of relatively new members who have shown less-than-complete knowledge of some of our policies and guidelines. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 02:32, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Petrarch article

I put a warning on talk page of User 170.158.81.56 so if he keeps this up, we will have to go to the next level. --Doug ^talk 16:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - you beat me to the warning... --ZimZalaBim (talk) 16:13, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Surpass-A

Probably. I'm going to nominate all of them for deletion, just to be on the safe side. Regards ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 20:34, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

yeah, i wasn't sure if they qualified for speedy or not. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 20:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

tom monfils afd thingie?

Wanna fill me in on the backstory about that thing you mentioned at the murder of tom monfils AFD (which I closed and speedied a few seconds ago)? You said you were going to defer to another admin, and since you said you had salted the first one, I figure you'd know what happened. ⇒ SWATJester ^{On Belay!} 04:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

The history and talk at Tom Monfils tells most of the story, as does Vinceipierce's talk page before he blanked it. A non-notable murder victim, who's page was speedied as A7 3 times. Vinceipierce wasn't happy, vandalized my talk page a bit to make a WP:POINT, then blanked his page and disappeared. Usual story. Now this new article, by what I presume is a sock. Thanks for speedying the new page. I'll keep an eye on it. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 04:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

np. If the page is recreated, I'll speedy it again, and block the sock. ⇒ SWATJester ^{On Belay!} 05:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

RE:Poem Page

Ah. Okay. I'm just happy that you didn't delete it for me...I need to save those poems to my computer. (not)(listening)

No prob. Save them, place the tag, and then I'll delete it. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 15:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

• • Deleted it...hope that's okay. (not)(listening)

Thanks for addressing it promptly. I've deleted the page. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 15:42, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

What?!

You just left me a message saying I was spamming with geocities forum links? What are you talking about? There is no such thing as a geocities forum. The ONLY geocities links I posted led to fansites for the thing I posted them under and NOT forums. This is within the rules, and am very offended to be accused of something I did not do.>( —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.163.193.239 (talk) 02:10, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

You are adding the same personal site hosted on Geocities to multiple articles with the description "Broken Clock-Clock Tower fansite and largest forum in existence" (emphasis added). That constitutes a link to be avoided. Please stop. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 02:30, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

So

In response to the second message left for me:

"You are adding the same personal site hosted on Geocities to multiple articles"

This is not spamming. These are NOT random articles. The site is not a personal site-it is a fansite with lots of information regarding that series. I posted it on the pages for the different games in the series and no others. All of the games are ones covered on the site I linked, thus it is not spam.

"with the description "Broken Clock-Clock Tower fansite and largest forum in existence" (emphasis added). That constitutes a link to be avoided. Please stop"

The link does not lead to a forum. If you do not believe me, click on it. There is a forum that can be found on the website that shares the same name. I included it in the link so that people would know it was there and not confuse the two since they share the same name.

I really detest you accusing me of all these things. I have read the Wiki rules and I am not in violation of them. If you continue to harass me and delete my links, I will report you, because it is not appreciated.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.163.193.239 (talk • contribs).

Please relax and assume good faith - no one is harassing you. You claimed it wasn't a forum, so I pointed out that you described it as such. It seems the vast majority of your edits have been to simply add links to fan sites, which, according to the external link policy should be avoided. That is why multiple editors have warned you about link spamming. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 02:45, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I just read the "links to be avoided page". I do not see a single one that my link it violating. Would you care to point it out? And I already told you why the word forum was included. Either way, the link does not lead to a forum and is perfecly within the rules.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.163.193.239 (talk • contribs).

The link "does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article". It is low content, offering a few screenshots of the characters, and primarily a link to some forum, which you already now is frowned upon. Stop re-adding them, or you will also be in violation of the three revert rule. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 03:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

It is low on content because it is still being worked on. And now you are accusing me of stealing too? You have no right to single out that site over all the others posted, just because there are still some sections that have not been finished. Those links have been up for months, and certainly contain more info than all those other Gamespot and such links, but I don't see you deleting those. This is clearly harassment, and I do intend to see that you are reported.67.163.193.239 03:10, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Please dispense with the threats and remain civil. I'm not accusing you of stealing, but rather expressing concern over use of copyright protected images (whether one considers that stealing is a separate issue). Perhaps it is fair use - I'm just brining up the concern. And I haven't had the time to scrutinize the other links, and even if they are problematic that's not a reason to allow other problematic links. Finally, if by your own admission your site is "still being worked on" it shouldn't be considered for inclusion until complete. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 03:14, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

BTW, you were recently blocked for adding links to a forum to these pages, and now, after the block expires, you add a bunch of links to some low-content fansite that consists mainly of a link to....that forum. That is link spamming. Please stop. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 03:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm sick of being civil! You are singling my link out, and it is not fair! There is nothing stolen on it and it is not against the rules. I don't know why you have something against it, but you have got a lot of nerve. That link has been up for a long time, and there has never been a problem, but because of a bunch of completely bogus accusations you are going to delete it? That is something I cannot tolerate.

And not you are bringing up that block? I did not even know that forums were not allowed when I added those links, and I did not even get the warnings until I had already been banned. I reported this, because it is hardly fair. And it is in no way link spamming, and don't you dare call it that. It may not have a lot of content, but that fansite is legit and relates to all four of the articles it was posted it. I swear, you have got to be the rudest mod I've ever met!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.163.193.239 (talk • contribs).

Third Opinion

WP:EL states that "Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority" (#11). The article on personal web pages cites GeoCities as an example, so this link should not be added in my opinion. ZimZalaBim is correct. It is, in fact, linkspamming. Please see WP:SPAM for more information. Cheers, PTO 03:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I looked at that, and it stated personal websites were ones that were for a person or had a resumen and the like, which most people make on Geocities. However, my link was not to a personal site, it was to an informative one.67.163.193.239 03:56, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Even if we could make a distinction between a "personal" Geocities site and an "informative" one, your site, I'm afraid is not informative in a way to qualify as "a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article". Your site merely points to the forums you were previously blocked for adding. Sorry, but this simply isn't an acceptable link for our encyclopedia. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 03:58, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

That's because it is still being editted. You are really a horrible person to single me out like this. Those links have been up for a long time, and only now they;re a problem? I'm not stupid. I know what you're up to and it is an abuse of power.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.163.193.239 (talk • contribs).

First, quit with the personal attacks. Second, you are not being singled out (note that someone else removed other improper links from the articles). Third, if your site is under construction, then wait until it is complete, and then propose its addition on the appropriate article talk pages. There's really nothing more to say on this matter. Thanks. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 04:33, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry ZimZalaBim, you're not being unfair at all. This user has said in over 5 talk pages things like "I find what you did unfair". He (or she) thinks he's right and everyone is being 'unfair' with him, because we all hate him despite we don't know him. Pfff. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 190.64.71.250 (talk) 06:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

Club Bleach

I would really like to put the page "Club Bleach" as a wikipedia article, so if it is possible can you please tell me a way to somehow change it so that it is not considered advertisin, jut merely diaplaying objectively the purpose of the forum. I would really like to either get some advice or some sufficient reason as to the articles's dleetion. Thank You for readiong this and I hope you get back to me. Sanji-san 11:43, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

If you look at the deletion log provided on the empty page, you'll see it was deleted according to the WP:WEB and WP:WP:CSD#A7 policies. You should read those policies. Forums generally do not qualify for inclusion in our encyclopedia. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 12:30, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

add my artical

Der sir,

i want to add my artical in your website. It is a small business, not a commercial. It is controlled and used in nepal. it is a kind of organisation opened by the young people. I m the founder of my company. It is not started yet, but will start soon. clickmandu.com is my domain and in nepal we dont need any registration. this website is only discussed in nepal. but we make sure it is fully copyright.

your sincerly Rupesh lal Singh —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Clickmandu (talk • contribs) 13:37, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

The very fact that your company has "not started yet" suggests that it does not qualify for inclusion in our encyclopedia. Please do not re-add it again. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 13:42, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Tecumseh High School (Michigan)

excuse me, we are doing a project for my high school class at Tecumseh High School and you have deleted our material. Will you please stop deleting everything. I understand that some of the articles were not done but they were being done today.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Medialitclass (talk • contribs).