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Ridiculous criticisms of myspace...

I'm not deleting the criticism section because I must admit that I appreciate the way myspace has encouraged people to attempt basic programming and also to communicate in general. And as many dumb things that myspace promotes, it also promotes worthy artists, institutions, etc. My main complaint is that many of the criticisms of myspace.com broadly apply very easily to other things as well. If potential employees post dumb things on myspace it's not myspace's fault! Seriously, that is a biased and weak crticism. Furthermore, if they complan about company practices (which they could do at any number of sites) I think that's great. Also, bad code can be written anywhere -- and is! I'll grant some of the securty concerns but a big site like myspace is bound to be under attack. The other criticisms though about the things people write about themselves... that hardly applies just to myspace and seems weak. You can write personal things in google groups, should that be a part of the critique about that page? What about wikipedia itself?! If people write dumb things on their personal pages that gets them into trouble should that be held against wiki?! I can understand coding snobs disliking some of the pages and some of the other criticisms but, overall, it seems biased -- and potentially is content created by competitors. Nihilozero 05:27, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hacking

wat the fuck bitches Many of my friends accounts are being hacked. Somehow people gain access to their account, then they message people in attempt to advertise for some bogus sex site. Are things being done to correct this? Is anybody aware of how the hacking is accomplished? --Barber.Brad 04:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Their accounts aren't being "hacked" as much as they are clicking on links that get their password, opening bulletins that send the password to the creator of the code, or just simply entering their passwords in sites to get them "special features" (that don't exist) or get more friends automatically, out of their own free-well oblivious as to the fact that they just gave away their password (as in, a fake-login page, or a website that requires them to enter their myspace password to get a drawing or something), or by opening corrupt bulletins. If they changed their password, and stopped opening links to sites they don't know and stopped falling for the tricks, then it would stop posting the spam. Bsroiaadn 05:53, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism: Security Section

"Any attempt to post a bulletin warning others about this particular spam, and that this information from Tom is inaccurate, never appears. This creates the perception that MySpace itself is in on these phishing schemes for the advertising money." I doubt that this is true, and it obviously is putting forth a personal opinion. --Nevhood 06:02, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Controversial

How is this topic controversial? I don't see any disputes that aren't being settled peacefully.--Cire27 09:06, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Topic, not the article. And there have been some pretty stupid edit wars (US or UK spelling? Censorship or Blocking?) between me and a sockpuppet-master. -- Chris is me _(u/c/t) 02:57, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MySpace Mobile

MySpace Mobile launched recently. I made a tiny mention, but will have to recuse myself of doing much more then that. Here are links:

http://www.myspace.com/myspacemobilecingular link with popup for phone selector: http://www-xl.cingularextras.com/fuel/enduser/portal/endUserHTMLGetPhoneNumberAndCoupon?packageId=55460&dc=0

Yahoo reporting on it http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061218/wr_nm/cingular_myspace_dc

Various news stories.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=myspace+mobile&btnG=Search+News

Mathiastck 21:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

the link to Weird Al's Myspace profile just links to a random guys website. Since I cant change it myself, can someone else?

MySpace freak

I seem to recall a song by I think Jazzy Fizzle called Something like MySpace Freak. Although I can't find it anywhere. Can anyone help? Aaronsingh 13:54, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, couldn't find it. -- Chris is me _(u/c/t) 02:55, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Prefered citing form?

While looking through the reference section, I've seen that all the citings are not all the same format. I've been thinking about fixing it all up, but I'd like to know what is the prefered citing form to do it in. DiamondDragon contact 22:30, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i prefer the cites using references tags, as opposed to external links. i believe highly acclaimed articles usually adhere to this standard. that would be cool if you could make this page uniform. The undertow 01:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking that too, but how should I write the reference? external link/name of article, author, website, date accessed or something like that? That was what I was trying to ask in the first place, sorry. DiamondDragon contact 02:30, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aw, I know there's ways, using {{cite}} and stuff, but all you need is the link, access date, and author. THis article was started with the < references > system, so it should continue to do so. -- Chris is me 05:35, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry bozo, didnt get the gist of it. how about MLA guides? they seem to be pretty standard.

1. Author or editor of website (if listed--check the top and the bottom of the web page)
2. Title of website
3. Date of last update (if listed--check the bottom of the web page)
4. Name of institution or organization sponsoring the website (if listed)
5. Date you accessed the website
6. URL (address) of the website
The undertow 07:46, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MLA is never, ever, used on wikipedia. There are 3 ref systems on Wikipedia, all at WP:CITE-- Chris is me 04:47, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

YouTube

The embedded video's actually do have links on them to the youtube site. Kiran90 04:10, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Myspace roleplaying

If i posted something about myspace roleplaying would anybody consider it harmful or vandalizing or whatever?

I think its high time everyone knew what a roleplayer was!!! Pearljade

Unless it can be sourced by reliable sources, it would be considered a violation of WP:OR and deleted. ju66l3r 05:53, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MySpace or myspace?

Should wikipedia use MySpace or myspace? Yes, MySpace is very common, but they use myspace on their logo (unlike YouTube) --Have a nice day. Running 23:29, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there's a definitive answer to that question. Within the site itself, the page headline alternates between "Myspace.com" and "MySpace.com". szyslak (t, c) 23:35, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's a logo! They use MySpace on their front page and in other contexts. The vast majority of references use MySpace. I recently went through[1] and made the usage consistent, but there are a few references that use Myspace - I left them the same as they are used by the reference. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 00:53, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Zzuuzz. The CamelCase style is appropriate for all but cases where a reference may be specifically quoted. ju66l3r 01:23, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was going to do this a few weeks ago (Talk:MySpace/Archive_4#Moving_Page), but didn't. On the 30^th of November, I sent an email to myspace support:

“

11/30/2006 10:13 PM CONTACT REQUEST FORM SUBMITTED

Subject: Other - Not listed
Body:

Hi. We are working on the myspace article, currently on
Wikipedia, available online at
http://en.wikipedia.org/MySpace . We just need verification
of exactly how MySpace is written. Whether its standard
(Myspace), CamelCase (MySpace), or lowercase (myspace). Thanks!

Wikipedia
per: Deon555 <deonwp (at) gmail (dot) com>

”

Reply followed on 10th Dec:

“

hello,

we prefer MySpace

thanks
myspace customer support

”

Well there you have it :)... straight from the horses mouth

— Deon555^talk_desk^{sign here!} 01:48, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

if they really 'preferred' it, how come they didn't use it in their signature? just sayin... The undertow 02:07, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They didn't capitalise a single thing in the email except MySpace, I guess after you answer 500 emails in a day, you get sick of being grammatically correct :P — Deon555^talk_desk^{sign here!} 23:43, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

yeah im sure myspace is just trying to keep things simple as most people who use instant messaging and such things like myspace dont really capitalize much of anything. 72.181.249.124 07:52, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility citation needed

How do you cite something that only exists online, but which you can't link directly to? If I link to http://signup.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=join.step1verify as the citation for the registration process requiring a visual captcha, it won't work, because it's a dynamic page and only exists when you've filled out the first page of the registration form. There's a screenshot at http://dh.elsewhere.org/images/myspace-captcha-full.png but since that's my own site, I assume that'd count as "original research". RJL20 03:23, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, never mind. I found a third-party reference. RJL20 04:01, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In searching for sources to varify the common user experience of various system errors while attempting to access myspace I also have found the Basline article, http://www.baselinemag.com/print_article2/0,1217,a=198614,00.asp, very informative and comprehensive. I noticed that another contributor has suggested this article under a suggested technical addition. Perhaps the accessibility section could be divided into subsections. One subsection addressing the lack of accessibility for the visually impaired, and another subsection addressing 'bugs' within the technical infrastructure of the website causing function errors and system 'crashes' that have become so prevelant.

Also, would the blog entery of a well established journalist such as Scott Rosenberg of Salon.com be an acceptable source? http://www.wordyard.com/2007/01/17/myspace-lesson/

Deinous 04:20, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Technical Article

Would anyone object to the addition of this article http://www.baselinemag.com/article2/0,1540,2082921,00.asp to the links section of the article, it's a pretty comprehensive write up on the improvements to the backend that myspace has necessitated due to it's growth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PipOC (talk • contribs)

Looks like a good source of info to me. It'd be nice to see it located within the text somewhere (perhaps in the software/hardware section) rather than just placed at the bottom. ju66l3r 18:26, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MySpace Profile Image

I would like to know if people think we should add an image of a sample MySpace.com profile? I think it would be useful to the article but I want to know what others think. Eric 02:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is already one in the infobox. Please also consider the copyright issues. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 02:40, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is very true there is already a screenshot in the infobox. Is there any way we could take the screenshot and move it out of the infobox and make it a slightly larger size for better viewing? Eric 22:41, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, we want to avoid anything over, say, 250 pixels due to people with low-resolution displays having trouble viewing. People can see a high-res shot by clicking the image, too. A diagram would be nice (I'd get to work on it, but I was supposed to start writing an essay 2/3 hours ago) -- Chris is me _(u/c/t) 02:53, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Tom profile, just a few things about it - its a jpg file which isn't really good for a screenshot like this, and also it has adblock tabs showing on it - chris90uk

I had uploaded and inserted a thumbnail of a sample MySpace profile with skin customization, to serve as an example, but it was edited out. I just wanted to know what the reason behind that was. Zbax1290 14:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Promotes a culture of copyright infringement

I've lost track of the number of 'Abuse reports' I've sent MySpace over the last 6 months requesting certain sites be shut down for blatant copyright infringements. MySpace is admittedly pretty good about shutting down these sites soon after they are notified of them, but they seem to have the attitude, "Tell us to take down a site and we will, but until it's requested, it's fair game" rather than being proactive in shutting down violators of its TOS. There's no real deterrent other than loss of their (free) account so it's no surprise to see the same problem soon re-emerge.

many non-artists(musicians) sign up for 'Artist' MySpace pages for the simple reason that these pages allow users to upload MP3s for their visitors to then download (and/or listen to). How convenient! Who needs P2P file-sharing apps for illegal music trading when there's MySpace? The MySpace Music Player must serve up literally hundreds of thousands of dollars of should-have-been-paying-royalties-on-that musical 'impressions'(playbacks/downloads). The RIAA should be all over them!
many users 'steal' photos, videos, and even complete passages of text word-for-word from other sites, without so much as ever even asking the original content (& copyright holder) for permission, and often without even citing/linking the source of the material. Monkey see - monkey do, and there's a lot of people who don't know better on MySpace.
There is often no way for a non-Member to contact the MySpace offender in order to ask them to remove or change the the offending content (after all most MySpace violations seem to be made in good faith - it's just a lack of common courtesy/respect for content/property rights). As a result, filing an 'Abuse Report' is easier and .. more final. It sometimes seems a shame to see someone lose their account over it - but hey - that's their problem. MySpace should however allow a way for non-Members to communicate so that issues can be resolved and everyone can be happy.

Does anyone know if RIAA (and other similar international organizations) or any intellectual property rights-advocate organizations are going after MySpace to recoup lost revenues and to seek tighter controls on their users? EDIT: I see that my comment here was deleted - the point was not to complain about MySpace here, but to get someone who knows a little more about the procedures and terms to add a paragraph or section to the article relating to the controversy I discussed. 69.17.162.148 08:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well... can't add this info. sorry.-- Chris is me _(u/c/t) 02:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Virus/Spyware ravaging MySpace?

Sorry, this doesn't really pertain to the Wiki, but I've noticed a lot of comments that contain "See who is spying on your MySpace page!Click here to start tracking your profile lurkers!" and "This is SO funny!" in the comments section of many pages on MySpace. This is most often seen in the Music section, with the artists who have tens of thousands of friends. Looks to be some sort of spyware that either a) automatically puts posts on your friends walls, or b) It changes the text from your intended comment to a hyperlink for the tracking software. And, doing a google search for those phrases yields nothing but thousands of MySpace pages that have been hit. Any idea what it is? How do I ate corm 01:06, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's quite sad, I have seen many people with this as well, I think something has hacked into my own computer as I sometimes get a security alert telling me to upload a new spyware programme (only when using myspace) it freezes everything and then crashes my browser, the spamers spamming spammers who are spamming to increase their own profile using MySpace for what it was originally intended for!!! Nick Boulevard 20:28, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

check my gul.li blogpost about the whole tracker scam. further postings coming up later tomorrow. --gulli 06:05, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Music & Musicians

I thought I would try and sum up the music section of myspace, I am sure its not up to standard but I made the initial effort anyway. Thanks Nick Boulevard 20:28, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't look that bad. Keep up the good work, although sources should pbe provided frequently. -- Chris is me _(u/c/t)

Scientology section

I just removed a section that was nothing more than a veiled attack on MySpace for what the editor thought was a concerted effort to keep anti-Scientology messages off of MySpace in agreement/collusion with Scientologists. The only sources were either heavily biased against Scientology or a "news" blog (where anyone can publish an "article"). It also included an image about stifled free speech on MySpace that was irrelevant to this article. Unless there are [[WP:RS|reliable sources for criticism, it should not be included in the article. Wikipedia is not the place for making claims like that. ju66l3r 01:33, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fix the Article

This article has been vandalized again, can someone fix it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.231.61.7 (talk) 19:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Done. -- Chris is me _(u/c/t) 17:26, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

External Link

I would like to know if people think we should add an external link to this article about MySpace Safety Tips? Why or why not? Eric 17:47, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, this link is to someone's personal GooglePages blog and therefore fails WP:EL. ju66l3r 00:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A Book topic for MySpace

The new genre of book trailer has also begun to appear on the MySpace site. This started as audio clips of book readings and has now progressed to full animated and video book trailers.

As such it really should be added to the MySpace page for historical reasons.

One of the most recent examples can be found at http://www.myspace.com/eustonworms

Vidlit

Language Editions

The "Language Editions" section of this article needs to be updated to reflect the recent international expansion of MySpace. It also needs to be updated because many of the versions mentioned as 'in beta' are in fact fully launched now. I would recommend the title be changed to "International sites" or something like that because the other versions are not just in different languages but in fact contain tailored content for different regions.

Here is the link to the MySpace International page

Nanisnap 06:22, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll get on it soon! -- Chris is me _(u/c/t) 17:25, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

error in Blurbs, blogs, multimedia

Hemanshu Nigam is Chief Security Officer, not Chief Executive Officer. --192.94.38.34 20:32, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that's right it MUST be corrected --Pierre Foucart 02:51, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What about "vital information"? I do not believe race, sexual orientation or religion are "vital". Should this not be "personal"? (195.137.96.115 11:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC))[reply]

I'll take a look. -- Chris is me _(u/c/t) 05:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Need to add a Myspace Censoring through Meta Tags section

Myspace is censoring some of its customers profiles through meta tags. Myspace has two differing sets of meta tags in use on profiles.

Some profiles have the meta tags- robots noindex, content noindex, etc....

Other profiles have the meta tags- description content MySpace Profile with the profile name and info included in the meta tags

So in essence Myspace is censoring certain profiles by blocking them from being indexed by search engines. These "blocked" profiles with the noindex meta tags won't even show up when browsing other Myspace users.

No one on the web has ever reported it, how could everyone miss this?

What's the conspiracy theory on this?

Reggiegron 15:46, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you could provide an example of this contrast. Thanks. -- zzuuzz^(talk) 16:28, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Below are examples of the 2 different meta tags used on Myspace profiles.

example 1. <meta name="keywords" content="friends networking sharing photos finding friends blogs journals blogging journaling bands music rate pics join groups forums classifieds online social networking" /><meta name="robots" content="noindex" /><meta name="Slurp" content="noindex" /><meta name="msnbot" content="noindex" /><meta name="googlebot" content="noindex" /><meta http-equiv="expires" content="0" /><meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache" />

example 2. <meta name="keywords" content="friends networking sharing photos finding friends blogs journals blogging journaling bands music rate pics join groups forums classifieds online social networking" /><meta name="description" content="MySpace Profile - Tom, 31 years old, Male, Santa Monica, CALIFORNIA, US, :-)" /><meta http-equiv="expires" content="0" /><meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache" />

example 1 will not be indexed by search engines. example 2 will be indexed by search engines. Reggiegron 16:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What is the URL of the first example? -- zzuuzz^(talk) 16:40, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In getting thee URLs for you I now see a profile set to "private" will have the meta tags set at noindex. A profile with the setting "for all to see" the meta name and description will show up. Thanks for walking me through this, I guess I should have checked deeper before posting on this so please disregard the Myspace meta tag conspiracy theory blooper. Sorry for wasting your time. Reggiegron 16:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Profiles aren't censored. Meta is used to de-index private profiles and others with tweaked privacy settings. No wait, they must be out to get your profile so that no one finds it on Google!1! -- Chris is me _(u/c/t) 05:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The New Myspace

Section removed. Entirely off topic, irrelavent, specualtion. -- Chris is me _(u/c/t) 05:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MySpace runs off PHPFox?

Having this posted on the page would be much appreciated; I'm not much of a writer. http://digg.com/software/Software_running_MySpace_discovered

Not likely. Here is an article about the software used by MySpace: http://microsoftstartupzone.com/blogs/ebt_success_stories/archive/2006/09/20/841.aspx

Agreed. -- Chris is me _(u/c/t) 05:38, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MySpace returns HTTP headers

Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0
X-Powered-By: ASP.NET
X-AspNet-Version: 2.0.50727
Set-Cookie: xxxxxxxxx
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 03:43:18 GMT

which is IIS/ASP not Apache/PHP. --h2g2bob 03:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Brad Greenspan / The MySpace Report

~~So many links throughout the article are not adequately referenced.~~ cleaned Example: "Of this amount, approx. US$327m has been attributed to the value of MySpace according to the financial advisor fairness opinion [2]." What is the Financial Advisor Fairness Opinion in any case? And is this a valid source, if so, how is it to be referenced? --Rchan89 10:42, 25 February 2007 (UTC) and Rchan89 11:05, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction

"the site reportedly attracts new registrations at a rate of 230,000 per day.[3]. The population on MySpace is currently at least 158.6 million and it is rising drastically with rates of about 300,000 new members per day."

Which is it 230,000 per day or 300,000? It can't be both, definately needs to be changed. War wizard90 21:41, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Scalability Issues, Errors and Downtime

Needs to be added 69.232.188.211 07:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility

"The registration process for a new MySpace account includes a visual CAPTCHA test, with no alternative method for the visually impaired. As a result, people with blindness or visual impairment are prevented from fully participating."

This assertion is biting off more than it can chew. I doubt there are many blind people out there who don't have a friend, family member, or aide to help them, so I doubt the visually impaired will have too much trouble with an obstacle that is only mandatory once. To say that this one obstacle "prevents full participation" seems more like someone looking for criticisms rather than a valid observation. Not to mention, the phrase "with no alternative method for the visually impaired" pretty much makes the second sentence redundant. Great magician 20:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Month of Myspace Bugs

Just a heads up -- there will be a great big pile of 0-day vulnerabilities disclosed involving myspace here: http://momby.livejournal.com/. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.193.68.238 (talk) 03:26, 16 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Crappy "Errors" section not needed

The information in that section is already stated in the Criticism section already. I can't remove the section, though.

I am wondering why almost all the people that I have spoken with recently don't know that the plant tobacco does not produce nicotine not even a little and if they removed this toxic man made chemical and just sold cigs without it very few in the smoking community would be dying of cancer. tobacco does not cause cancer nicotine does. I think its about time to take a few million people to washington to have this very toxic chemical banned from the USA. I have spoken with a number of doctors and all agree there is NO use for nicotine on the planet.PLEASE let us all ban together and do something about it.(Sptscrds 12:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Who is the CEO and President?

From the main article it says that Chris DeWolfe is the CEO and President, but under the pages about Tom Anderson and DeWolfe, it says that DeWofle is just the CEO and Andreson is the President. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.114.59.137 (talk) 22:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Relevance of User Moderator/Admin Information?

Would this article benefit from, or be enhanced at all by information regarding site moderators, admins, or other users whose purpose it is to police the site and remove content that violates terms?64.34.172.170 16:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

True

i have been receiving about 20 friend requests a day from fake profiles set up by the True network, and i'm sure many other people are having the same problem. Should something be added to the Spam section of the article about this? Gordonjay 04:12, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No. MySpace is such a popular target for spam, and the nature of the spam changes so much, that it's not worth mentioning or keeping track of. If we were to attempt to catalogue the spammers on MySpace, the list would go on and on. I believe the fact that spam exists in abundance is important in the article - but that who spams, and how much, and how often, is irrelevant. 64.34.172.170 12:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Link to Terms of Service summary

There's a summary of the MySpace TOS on the WikiSummaries.org web site. This could be a beneficial external link. Geneffects 20:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Comments" section

Someone seems to have taken a dump on the "Comments" section of the article.

Below the User's Friends Space (by default) is the "comments" section, wherein the user's friends may leave comments for all viewers to read. MySpace users have the option to delete any comment and/or require all comments to be approved before posting. If a user's account is deleted, every comment left on other profiles by that user will be deleted, and replaced with the comment saying "This Profile No Longer Exists", comments have been the real engine behind myspace , many sites were developped to offer html comments like myspace comments , these html comments are mainly links to images on other sites, these sites offer bandwith in return of visitors.

What the heck happened here? The end of that last sentence seems to have been edited into an incomprehensible run-on sentence.

Calling MySpace American

(moved from User_talk:Daniel Chiswick)

Daniel, why do you think it is so important to say that MySpace (or YouTube) is an American website? It's misleading, and in the case of MySpace, which has a number of sites which are specifically not American, borders on inaccurate. The page properly includes the fact that MySpace is an American company; that seems to get across the information that you want to include, without leading to the potential confusion that calling the website itself American might. Note, as I said in my last edit summary, that the entries about Google search and Yahoo! Directory do not say that these websites are American, while the entries about the Google and [[Yahoo!] companies do. That seems right to me - we can identify that the MySpace website is a product of an American company, without risking giving the incorrect impression that it is largely or solely used by Americans. Why is it so important to you that MySpace be described, in the first sentence, as "an American website"? VoluntarySlave 03:50, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Technically, it is a American website. It has users from across the planet, but the website itself is hosted in the US. It's the same way that Wikipedia is technically an American website even though it has many international users. TJ Spyke 03:52, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To me, to say that it is an "American website" implies that it is targeted specifically at Americans (I interpret "Myspace is an American website" as "Myspace is a website for Americans"), and/or that the user base is mainly American. It is clearly not targeted only at Americans, as the myspace website specifically says that "Myspace is a worldwide community". It's also obviously the case that Myspace has a large number of users outside America. Daniel has also been doing the same thing to the YouTube article: you can see my comments on the YouTube talk page. fraggle 16:43, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Does being hosted in America make it an American website? Or being run by an American company? Saying "an American website" seems ambiguous between either of those two claims, and the claim that it is targeted at or mostly used by Americans. As we say explicitly that MySpace is an American company, I don't see the virtue of adding the less clear phrase "American website." VoluntarySlave 18:24, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to me that there is ambiguity as to whether "American website" means "website for Americans" or "website run by an American company". Because of this ambiguity, I think it's best to be explicit. Avoiding the phrase "American website" seems like a good idea, and there is already an explanation given in the first paragraph that it is run by an American company. fraggle 19:31, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Myspace Party

The party in Britian for which the girl was arrested for causing damage actaully occured at the girls own house. The article needs to be changed to include that information. My source for this is <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=449819&in_page_id=1879> Could someone with the ability to edit this page please change that section? Thanks. 141.224.232.144 22:05, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. -- zzuuzz^(talk) 23:05, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This whole thing about her myspace party shouldnt be under 'Critisms'. This story is crazy. She should have called the police the minute people turned up she didnt invite. I really doubt they all turned up at the same time. Put this under another section not 'Critisms'. Its not myspace's fault the girl's behaviour was stupid. Coolmark18 09:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's actually under 'legal issues', and I agree it's not the ideal place for it. The story is well sourced and relates to the social networking aspects of MySpace, so it is not entirely irrelevant. -- zzuuzz^(talk) 09:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm, yeah but its just her stupidity which annoys me. If I ran infront of a Toyota I wouldnt expect somebody to put the incident on the Toyota page. I know its a crazy seniaro. Lol. I understand your point about's significant but meh. Cheers none the less. Coolmark18 09:21, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Myspace marketing

I have found an article about myspace marketing here:

www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=456008

Do you think this article's link should be placed in the myspace wikipedia entry under the 'further reading' section? Daabomb 00:08, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The link appears to be of very low content, quality, and provenance. It would not add anything to the article. -- zzuuzz^(talk) 00:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently nothing in myspace's wikipedia entry that even talks about myspace marketing so this article is better than nothing Daabomb 23:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That website lists information on how to advertise on MySpace. Wikipedia is not here for advertising purposes, but rather to provide people with knowledge. Vereinigen 22:08, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

External Link

I just came across this site http://www.baselinemag.com/article2/0,1540,2082945,00.asp . It is an interesting about how MySpace has had to change their computing architecture over time with more and more users.

Karit 22:50, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It looks a useful reference. This is probably a better link. -- zzuuzz^(talk) 23:09, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]