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:Without an [[WP:IS|independent source]], this would count as [[WP:OR|original research]]. [[User:Oli Filth|Oli Filth]] 14:54, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:Without an [[WP:IS|independent source]], this would count as [[WP:OR|original research]]. [[User:Oli Filth|Oli Filth]] 14:54, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

but this is an undenied fact, pando doesn't deny it.
they certainly do not advertize it.
what I describe is just the logic of the pando system.
if you are a pando user yourself, can't you see how exact it is ?
isn't there around any pando advanced user to confirm this fact ?

Revision as of 15:11, 18 August 2007

What other information about the Pando service should be included in the Wikipedia?

...Everything?

This article merely skims the surface of what pando is. I don't think it works the way it says it works in the article, so we can change that, add that it's in public beta, it's owned by Pando Networks, the connection is encrypted everywhere the file goes. I'll go ahead with it then.--Mac Lover 04:29, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're being really vague here. Can you say why you don't think it works like it says? It's documented. What do you propose we change? We take out all there is and put what? --195.27.20.2 11:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

added the licence and bussines model of pando. I think it's something basic with any article about any piece of software. At least the license part.

license section added

Not an exepert of pando myself... i just was searching the license of pando and it was "difficult" (i.e. it wasn't in the wikipedia) for me to find it.

Hanoc, 22:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Pando logo.PNG

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Security Issues?

Pando, as I understand it, is not a new compression tool. A large file is transferred outside an email system. Very neat but the default install leaves the application always running and a hole is created in the firewall so you always have a shared P2P folder on your PC open to the Pando network.

This architecture appears dangerous to me. Someone who knows more about network security than I do could improve this article with a detailed technical discussion of Pando's inherent security issues. For the home this may work great; for corporate networks the security issues may be serious. Pando clearly fills a need since most ISP’s have an email file attachment limit and file transfers, esp. with video, are only getting larger. I would personally not leave it turned on all the time and would only open the firewall for the app when transferring a file from a known sender. While this works at home, it is likely not feasible in the corporate world. Corporations will need some time to digest and study Pando's security issues in depth. Frankatca 19:14, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Encryption flaw

someone has reverted my nice paragraph about an encryption flaw in pando. this flaw being a described fact doesn't need external source. any brain can do the job. Just analyse what I've said, find out that it is correct and put it back.

can you provide any point that invalid what I have said ?

"Before uploading the user file on the pando server, pando try to recognize if the file is not already on the pando server by comparing the hash value. If the hash value is the same, the file is not uploaded and pando uses the one already on their server. As it is a regular .torrent file, anyone connected to the same torrent can obtain the IP addresses of the downloaders and the seeders of the file.

A copyright owner could download its own pirated material from another peer to peer system (edonkey, bittorrent or else) and wonder if the same file is on the pando server. Sending this pirated file to himself via pando, he would then discover how many people are sharing his file via pando. Then, using the .pando file in a regular bittorrent software (azureus, utorrent) he will find the IP addresses of the people uploading and dowloading his copyrighted material. A judge could force the ISP's to reveal the names and addresses linked to the IP adresses.

Knowing who sends what to who, one can say the 256-bit end-to-end encryption has a catastrophic flaw.

Having been informed about this flaw, the people behind pando, refused to address it."

Without an independent source, this would count as original research. Oli Filth 14:54, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

but this is an undenied fact, pando doesn't deny it. they certainly do not advertize it. what I describe is just the logic of the pando system. if you are a pando user yourself, can't you see how exact it is ? isn't there around any pando advanced user to confirm this fact ?