Talk:Big Brother 8 (American season)

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Big Brother Jury

I was going to write about adding information to the HG articles about their stay in the jury house, when I realised they hadn't show any yet! Why has this not happened? I watched S6 and S7 and they had that stuff. It would be nice if information was available so it could be added to Houseguest profiles for this season. Example being that last season it was probably worth noting the howie/george incident from last year. Anyone have an answer? - Spyke1077 04:44, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

They may show something today since Jen is supposed to be there. Unless they do something surprising like a double eviction which they need to do because their main site has the show going for ten weeks on their voting history. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 06:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't remember them having that much about the jury house. I could be wrong. I do remember that they showed jury members reaction when a new member would show up. So like Alucard is saying, they will probably have Dustins reaction to Jens arrival on tonights show, and maybe some more info that could be used in the article. - Rjd0060 14:29, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

FCC Discussion is over

The FCC discussion is over. Do not repost it. It's done and finished with. It got out of hand. So that's that. Do not respond to this. Everyone is getting mad over nothing. - Spyke1077 16:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

As you see, the discussion has been reverted back to this page. Instead of deleting it, it should be moved to archive 4. The first 2 discussions could probably be moved. - Rjd0060 02:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree. This person should not be allowed to delete stuff just because it was embarrassing to him.

Created Archive 5. Archive 4 was huge enough. See you next year. - Spyke1077 02:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

You leaving us?supremegoddessofall 02:50, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Hopefully they will ban him. He is clearly too disruptive and unstable to handle updating this page.

Amber

The house made a stupid decision in tonight's show! I hope Zach doesn't Head of Household! Daniele deserves it more. i even think America's Player should go home. I hate him more than I did earlier today! User:ScottAHudson —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.213.90.227 (talk) 01:35, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Scott not to be rude but talk pages are not a place to discuss the show itself but how to improve this article. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 01:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Citing

Is there anyway to cite an episode of the show? I am just wandering. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 06:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Check out the video entry at Citation Templates (WP:CITET) - fmmarianicolon | Talk 17:26, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Week 11

Why is there a week 11 when it has been mentioned no where, and the cbs only goes up to week 10? Anung Mwka 21:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

If you count from 6 starting at the beginning of week 9, the second segement for week 9 will have 5 remaining, 10 has 4 remaining, 11 has 3 remaining and results has 2 remaining. User:ScottAHudson

Have you thought about the possibility of week 10 being a double evict as well? Anung Mwka 23:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Leave it be for now. And besides when giving an explanation about why House Calls won't have future evictiees/jury members this year on the show (read "House Calls Interviews" below) Gretchen said (from a statement from Big Brother) it is a twelve week competition. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 07:32, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

On "America's Player"

Has it ever been stated what exactly will happen should he make it to the final 2? If they're doing as they've done in past seasons and showing the jury members current episodes of the show, would that influence their decision too much if they knew that Eric is already raking in cash from his tasks? If anybody knows this stuff, I think it would do well in the article. Ric | opiaterein 22:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I really don't believe that they have said what will happen. However, I think we can assume that the jury members are not seeing the complete episodes. I assume that they only see ceremonies and competitions. I highly doubt that BB will show them all of the conversations that are shown in episodes, and doubt they will show any DR sessions (including AP assignments) to the jury members. So to answer your question, since BB has not said anything, I don't think we should add any speculation to the article. - Rjd0060 00:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the whole speculation thing but I found some stuff out that I think that should go in the article. On the cbs web site, it says that AP ends September 12. This is listed on the Americas Player section in the TERMS AND CONDITIONS. Here is what it exactly says, Voting Periods: America's Player on Big Brother begins on Sunday, July 8, 2007 at 5:00 PM Pacific Time (PT) and ends at 11:59:59 AM PT on Wednesday September 12, 2007 (the "America's Player Period"). Voting Periods: There will be twenty-nine (29) voting periods (each a "Voting Period and collectively the "Voting Periods") that occur within the America's Player Period. Basically this means that we have no control in what Eric does after Thursday. I wanted to put this in the article but I wasnt sure how I should phrase it or exactly where it should go. Heres the link to the page http://www.cbs.com/primetime/bigbrother8/americas_player/rules.htmlRosario lopez 02:00, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

GOOD WORK on finding this. - Rjd0060 02:11, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

• The article says that if he is a juror, we will decide who he has to vote to win. Is this even accurate? That is important to find out. If it IS true, maybe something like this? "Erics final Americas Player assignment will be announced on the September 11 episode, unless he is a member of the jury, in which case viewers will decide on who should receive his vote to win the game." ... On second thought, maybe that doesn't sound too good but it is something to work off of. - Rjd0060 02:20, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Here is what I think will happen: The final voting day (according to the AP terms) is Sept. 11, which is the Thursday before the finale. I believe at this time there will be 3 people remaining in the game, if Eric has been evicted at this point, the viewers will vote for who he should vote to win. If the highest vote getter is evicted before the finale night, I think that they will do just as they have been all season and just go to the next highest vote getter. If Eric is still in the house at this time, the final task will probably (and most likely) be who he should evict. Thats just what I think will happen - it isn't from a source or anything. - zachinthebox _{(User • Talk)} 03:52, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

New double eviction style

I was thinking, and I though that instead of having two completely separate columns that differ in width from the rest, that we could possibly use rowspan="2" so that all of the double eviction week information could be in one column and it wouldn't mess up the voting boxes. Just my opinion. Geoking66_talk 04:28, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I think that sounds good. Could you make like an example of what your talking about so we can have a visual? Sounds good though. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 05:06, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Is this what you are talking about? Note I can't predict the future so this is not correct.

	Week 8	Week 9	Week 10
Head of Household	Jessica	Zach	Jessica
		Daniele
Nominations (pre-veto)	Amber Zach	Jameka Jessica	Dick Danielle
		Zach Eric
Veto Winner	Daniele	Eric	Jessica
		Dick
Daniele	Amber	Jameka	Nominated
		HoH
Dick	Amber	Jameka	Nominated
		Zach
Eric	Amber	Jameka	Danielle
		Nominated
Jessica	Head of Household	Nominated	Head of Household
		Zach
Zach	Nominated	HoH	Evicted (Day 69)
		Nominated
Jameka	Zach	Nominated	Evicted (Day 69)
Amber	Nominated	Evicted (Day 62)
Notes	See notes 2, 4	See note 4	See notes 2, 4
Evicted (votes to evict)	Amber 3 of 4	Jameka 3 of 3	Daniele 1 of 1
		Zach 2 of 2

I do think this would look better plus you can tell each week apart very well. I wouldn't mind fixing the tables up for this. I do think for a double eviction week if the table is going to be like this we should use "HoH" to identify Head of Household instead of the full name. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 06:12, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

The only problem with this is it would make it's not *easily* identifiable as to who went first (although it is down at the bottom based on the number of votes), nor is it possible to see who was nominated against the first evictee versus the second one. - supremegoddessofall 06:26, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't like this at all because it's difficult to determine which order the events happen. The double Week 9 column looks fine and makes it congruent with other columns in the table. This tight version could be easily misinterpreted, and it just looks too overloaded and would require several explanations to make it fully clear to the reader. Keep the current version. --Mtjaws 07:05, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Leave the double column, and just make another footnote about the fact that it was a double eviction week. The evictions aren't going to happen simultaneously, even if they are aired on the same show, and making a single column makes it look like both evictions are part of the same event. - supremegoddessofall 07:30, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I messed up when I made that one Zach is supposed to have two rows in Week 9. I fixed the one above but refer to my sandbox for a better example. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 07:20, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I made a full example for this new style in my sandbox if anyone would like to take a look at the full example. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 07:09, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I like the new one, but supremegoddessofall has a point. - Rjd0060 14:38, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I like the idea of the new one, but I find it really hard to read the individual votes of each player, with all the colours of HoH and Nominees. I think that we should leave it as 2 columns. - zachinthebox _{(User • Talk)} 15:17, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

That's what I meant (the table). Geoking66_talk 02:46, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

House Calls Interviews

Gretchen has stated on Friday's show on CBS.com that beginning with Amber no evicted HouseGuest who is a jury member beyond this point will be interviewed until after the finale. I am going to attempt to type the statement below that Gretchen read from Big Brother:

We have made jury members of Big Brother available to the press the past few seasons always with the proviso that their questions not inform the ejected HouseGuest of influences outside his or her personal experience in the House. This season several cast members have made either offensive statements or exhibited controversial behavior, we respect journalist interests and rights to pose questions about these statements but believe at the same time doing so could provide information that influences the final vote and potential outcome of this twelve week competition. For that reason the remaining jurors will not be made available to the media for the duration of the program. They will be made available to the press after the Big Brother finale on September 18th.

Here is the the link for the video on CBS.com. It took me a while to get this word for word although I may have missed a word or two lol. I can recite the first part of Friday's House Calls now. I think this should be included somewhere in both the House Calls section on the main article plus the Incidents section in the main Big Brother article. How would we source this though? ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 05:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, I figured out how to cite the episode, I think. Plus I found another source about the decision. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 11:32, 1 September 2007 (UTC)