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Edit 11/16/06

I removed: "However, since there is some evidence that the Black Panther organization was itself established as a provocation, aimed at disrupting and discrediting the integrationist program and coalition politics strategy of the Civil Rights Movement, this example drawn from FBI archives may be deliberately deceptive." No evidence was provided for this claim.

[I am not the author of the above unsigned comment.] Also, the above statement, at least the way it's worded, seems not sufficiently relevant to the article. Tragic romance 20:53, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

third paragraph: typically?

I'm a little concerned with the third paragraph:

The activities of agents provocateurs are typically called sting operations. Agents provocateurs are typically used to investigate consensual or victimless crimes; since each participant in such crimes are willing participants, only a police spy posing as a fellow participant in criminal activity is likely to be able to uncover such a crime.

There's something funny going on with the phrase "typically" here: we're talking about covert operations, we have no statistics on how these techniques are used. The article then goes on to discuss some of the known examples, which we're now supposed to presume are "atypical"? Perhaps we should be describing a "common use" of the technique, and then go on to discuss some other known uses. -- Doom 18:08, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Linda Tripp as agent provocateur

I have removed this from the article:

During the Clinton impeachment trials of 1998-1999, Clinton's defense characterized Linda Tripp as an agent provocateur of sorts for the Republican party, for secretly taping conversations with Monica Lewinsky.

My reason: secretly taping conversations is not a good example of the provoking actions of an agent provocateur. The contributor seemed to sense this, in adding the weasel words of sorts. Richard Myers 18:11, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

g8 protests

this is a current event, but there is at least one instance of an Agent provocateur has been identified, and i feel it should be added to the article source: http://de.indymedia.org/2007/06/182399.shtml

SPP Protests

I added a reference to this event and accusations therein. One of many news references is http://www.thestar.com/News/article/248608 accessed today Baiter

Broad definition of agent provocateur

Dear all, I added a broad definition for the role of agent provocateur on the Wiki and it was removed completely because it was seen as an act of vandalism. Earlier defintions were based on outdated, narrow concepts and James Bond style parlance, which may encourage the immature amongst us, but does a complete disservice to the real definition of the term. At least one other person was willing to develop edits around my original base definition. Rather that re-zapping the current narrow/flawed base definition, i would ask for further advice. Stephen (Intrench) Intrench 12:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]