Talk:Anti-Bihari sentiment/Archive 1

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So I am removing WP:POVFORK Manoj nav (talk) 08:31, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

The page is underconstruction

This article is in the middle of an expansion, and is not yet ready for use. Kindly coperate. Manoj nav (talk) 17:57, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Some suggestions

The article is being developed by editors through IP addresses -159.104.212.36, 91.104.57.107 and 86.136.254.40. There has been an excellent progress and lot of material has been added. May I suggest you to create login and user pages, so that we can communicate better.

There is a discussion at [1].

Someone says there -

There are 2 separate issues

• Social/political/economic issues
• Bihari label and treatment of individual Biharis by some non-Biharis

I think there is a point in that and we need to do some research. Manoj nav (talk) 17:28, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Saying Biharis face Racism and Prejudice because they are 'economically poor and uneducated' amounts to saying Africans faced racism because they were darker. Even the most uneducated and poor has the right to live in his country as a main stream citizen. A person can't say that I shall treat you like a waste till you become rich and educate yourself. You will not find Bhojpuri films in shops like Planet-M, which other wise keeps musics and films in all other Indian regional languages. This is racism. Theaters showing Bihari films have been attacked. This is a social-Apartheid of Indian origin, which will soon be legalized, if people like Naik [2], exists (this is just my personal opinion). Manoj nav (talk) 19:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree with what you say. What I wanted to do is provide as much information as possible without providing an answer. Causes of racism are normally cultural and economic in nature. My view is that what is happning to Biharis is the same as what happed to Indians in Uganda. I will be happy to see what additional changes you can make. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notashamed (talk • contribs) 21:31, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't be online much for atleast next 10 days. Some had suggested for the deletion of the article without any discussion. So I have removed the message. I shall contribute for the article in time to come and ask others as well. We also need to add some photographs. Manoj nav (talk) 18:42, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

AfDM without discussion thread ??

Assuming that there is no issue at all, I am removing the message. The article is very much justified. Manoj nav (talk) 18:34, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Well I deleted AfDM message out of ignorance. There is a discussion going on at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Racism faced by Bihari people in India, which unfortunately has no link on this discussion page. Neither did I receive any personal message. I would request the Administrator to restore the message if it is required. Manoj nav (talk) 19:55, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

change in the title of the article.

The title of the article has been changed from 'Racism faced by the people of Bihar' to 'Anti-Bihari sentiment in India'. I do not support this. Others kindly comment. Manoj nav (talk) 18:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

The new title is a nice euphemism but equally OR. There is neither any racism nor any "anti-bihari sentiment" in India. Biharis enjoy the same fundamental constitutional rights that every other citizen of the company enjoys. Nothing more nothing less. Any suggestions of a supposed "anti-bihari sentiment" in India is a figment of the authors' imagination. This is wikipedia.. not a propaganda pamphlet. Stop giving vent to your imaginations here.

The free movement of people seeking work from one part of the Indian Union is guaranteed in the constitution[1]. - Nice!

Millions of Biharis have left their home state to work in developmental projects, and also to seek general work in other parts of India. As a consequence, Biharis have been subjected a growing degree of prejudice and violence. The current prejudiced view of Biharis in India in line with all mass migration events.[2].[3][4][5] - Brilliant!

Is this supposed to be a joke? Sarvagnya 19:07, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Kindly refer the discussion thread for reply to your conflict - Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Racism_faced_by_Bihari_people_in_India —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manoj nav (talk • contribs) 20:33, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

the very premise of this article is a hoax????

I think the discussion suggests the other way round - Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Racism_faced_by_Bihari_people_in_India Manoj nav (talk) 20:30, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

the new sub-section titles don't conveys the right information

The some of the sub-section titles have been changed to

• Inclusion in BIMARU
• Poor professionals
• Allegations of vulgarity of culture

They are misleading and conveying wrong informations. I would request experts on the topic to look into it. Any effort to improve the linguistics of the article should not be to the extend that it conveys wrong information. Manoj nav (talk) 22:16, 29 August 2008 (UTC)