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officially know as the Defense Communications Electronics Evaluation
officially know as the Defense Communications Electronics Evaluation
and Testing Activity (DCEETA), and also known as Area 58. While the
and Testing Activity (DCEETA), and also known as Area 58. While the
Fort Belvoir was the only downlink for the KH-11 additional sites were
Fort Belvoir site was the only downlink for the KH-11 additional sites were
added - apparantly in Hawaii and Europe....In contrast, the signals from the LACROSSE/VEGA system are relayed via [[NASA]]'s Tracking and Data Relay Satellites ([[TDRS]]), of which there are three in orbit. The signals are then transmitted to a ground station at White Sands, New Mexico.
added - apparantly in Hawaii and Europe....In contrast, the signals from the LACROSSE/VEGA system are relayed via [[NASA]]'s Tracking and Data Relay Satellites ([[TDRS]]), of which there are three in orbit. The signals are then transmitted to a ground station at White Sands, New Mexico.
In the future, a joint military-civilian National Space Communications System may handle relay of intelligence, military, and civilian communications."<ref>http://books.google.com/books?id=BaeJNdRySPoC&pg=PA171&lpg=PA171&dq=area+58+dceeta&source=web&ots=US35D11OKE&sig=HOfnlKR8xDDTwrC_vkxOg8SxNMY&hl=en#PPA171,M1</ref>
In the future, a joint military-civilian National Space Communications System may handle relay of intelligence, military, and civilian communications."<ref>http://books.google.com/books?id=BaeJNdRySPoC&pg=PA171&lpg=PA171&dq=area+58+dceeta&source=web&ots=US35D11OKE&sig=HOfnlKR8xDDTwrC_vkxOg8SxNMY&hl=en#PPA171,M1</ref>

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Robert Girardi

Thanks for the expansion. I thought he was italian because of this article that I'd used as a source. Please add any further comments for me to my talk page instead of my user page. --OnoremDil 00:08, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Speedy deletion of John E. Pike

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However, for textual content, you may simply consider rewriting the content in your own words. Thank you. Corvus cornixtalk 01:47, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Hangon" doesn't apply to copyright violations. Please rewrite the article in your own words. Corvus cornixtalk 01:52, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry could you be more specific? pohick203:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Area 58

Area 58 is a tract of land in Northern Virginia in the eastern United States. Situated at the western edge of Fort Belvoir, with a sign labeled DCEETA, on a separate entrance off of Telegraph road, is a large windowless building, connected to some radomes, and one of the most secretive places in the world. The base's primary purpose is to support downloading, development, and transfer of satellite intelligence.[1]

The base lies within the Fort Belvoir north post. The facility is managed by the National Reconnaissance Office, along with NIMA, now renamed the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. Perimeter security is provided by uniformed security guards working separate from Fort Belvoir security.

Other names used for the facility include The Ground Station, or the cover name DCEETA.

The intense secrecy surrounding the base, the very existence of which the U.S. government barely acknowledges, has allowed it to hide in plain sight.

Geography

The satellite map.[2] showing Area 58, (38d44m10s N, 77d09m30s W) [3]shows the radomes. The facility is shielded from public view by hills on the perimeter and trees. The sensor imbedded perimeter fence and jersey barrier keep out intruders. The public road which provided a viewshed was closed; however, it still remains visible from the Fort Belvoir golf course.[4]

Operations

"KH-11s, also known by the Byeman code name Kennan, or as satellites in the 5500 series, send their real-time imagery up to other satellites including the high flying SDS[[1]] platforms (a relay method that complicates Soviet attempts to intercept the data), which, in turn, downlink it to the ambiguously named Defense Communications, Electronic Evaluation and Testing Activity, a large windowless two story concrete structure at Fort Belvoir, Virginia, just outside of Washington, D.C."[5]

"For the KH-11 and advanced KH-11 the primary ground station is the Mission Ground Site at Fort Belvoir, Virginia, about 20 miles south of Washington. It is a large, windowless, 2 story concrete building officially know as the Defense Communications Electronics Evaluation and Testing Activity (DCEETA), and also known as Area 58. While the Fort Belvoir site was the only downlink for the KH-11 additional sites were added - apparantly in Hawaii and Europe....In contrast, the signals from the LACROSSE/VEGA system are relayed via NASA's Tracking and Data Relay Satellites (TDRS), of which there are three in orbit. The signals are then transmitted to a ground station at White Sands, New Mexico. In the future, a joint military-civilian National Space Communications System may handle relay of intelligence, military, and civilian communications."[6]

When completed the facility provided the means to download and distribute satellite intelligence from Keyhole[[2]][[3]], Lacrosse[[4]], and Quasar satellites.

History

After Jimmy Carter's inauguration, satellite photographs were hand delivered that had been downloaded at Area 58.[7]

Area 58 construction began in earnest in the late 1980's.

The facility continued to grow.

A parking garage was added, and is now planned to be enlarged[8] now that overflow parking fills the seized Woodlawn road.

8 million dollars was spent in 1999, to realign Beulah Road, and use Old Beulah Road (Southeast of Telegraph Road) as the entrance of the facility.

In Spring 2004, a secure water tank[9], and fuel farm were constructed.[10]

In 2005, a remote delivery facility was added.[11]

U.S. government's positions on Area 58

The Government has recently classified the location of Area 58.[12] The base is conspicuously absent from Federal publications.

The extensive article by John Pike[13] at the Federation of American Scientists was suppressed, as demonstrated by the broken links of press accounts from Y2K.[14][15] Mr. Pike left FAS and started his own group GlobalSecurity.

Apparantly, this was another example of reclassification,[[5]][16] as occured at the National Archives and Records Administration.

However, the Russian language essay was not suppressed.[17]

After September 11, 2001, Woodlawn Road, and a part of Beulah Road, State Route 618 and 613, were closed without due process of the law, with much controversy.[18] Apparantly, the road was within the 45 meter standoff distance from the main entrance.

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