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BryanFromPalatine

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Filed: 06:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Code letter: F

209.221.240.193 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) is a sockpuppet of checkuser-confirmed (multiple violations) puppeteer BryanFromPalatine (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) (This user (Bryan) was blocked for 2 weeks on Jan 06, and it already editing under this BryanFromPalatine user name - How did that happen?) Bryan admitted to this IP puppet after it was shown that this IP replied ( IP 209/Bryan's edit ) to sock puppet charges against another puppet of Bryan, banned user ArlingtonTX (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log). This IP signed the edit as BryanFromPalatine. This new suspected puppet, ClemsonTiger, has edited Robert Bosch, and Free Republic and claims to be a Clemson grad, an intellectual properties lawyer and a 'liberal'. Note that confirmed and banned puppet of BryanFromPalatine DP1976 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) also claimed to be an Intellectual Properties lawyer and a liberal, and edited Free Republic, Bosch, and Clemson. New suspected puppet ClemsonTiger almost certainly a 'clone' of 'ficitious persona' DP1976, one member of a whole 'army' of BryanFromPalatine's puppets.

ArlingtonTX, confirmed puppet of Bryan, wrote (regarding other fictitious personas in his sock puppet army) "BryanFromPalatine is part of our "tribe." So is DP1976. So is 12ptHelvetica. DP1976, for example, is a flaming left-wing partisan. DP1976 edited for 1-1/2 years on yet a third different broad range of topics such as Clemson University. " sock army discussion

Checkuser conclusions on DP1976, confirmed puppet of Bryan : HERE

On his FIRST DAY of editing, Jan 02, 2007, ClemsonTiger (BryanFromPalatine) BLANKED the page where an admin had posted the sockpuppet confirmation of one of Bryan's sockuppets - on the user page of 209.221.240.193 an Admin checkuser-confirmed puppet account of puppeteer Bryan. Bryan/ClemsonTiger Blanks Page - Fairness And Accuracy For All 23:42, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AND The talk page for that IP address now proclaims that it is indeed ClemsonTiger, and checkuser confirmed this IP is BryanFromPalatine. Can we please have a permanent sanction against this person [and IP 209.221.240.193] who continually evades blocks by sockpuppeting? BenBurch 00:15, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence for admin as requested

Puppeteer BryanFromPalatine recieved a one week block on "29 December 2006 Ral315 (Talk | contribs) blocked "BryanFromPalatine (contribs)" with an expiry time of 1 week (Sockpuppeting.)"

New puppet (of Bryan) ClemsonTiger was 'born' on Jan 02. On his FIRST DAY of editing, Jan 02, 2007, ClemsonTiger (BryanFromPalatine) BLANKED the page where an admin had posted the sockpuppet confirmation of one of Bryan's sockuppets - on the user page of 209.221.240.193 another Admin checkuser-confirmed sock account of puppeteer Bryan. Bryan/ClemsonTiger Blanks Page

MORE: :On Jan 04 2007 ClemsonTiger admitted he was also IP user 209.221.240.193 Clemson admits he is User:209.221.240.193


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BryanFromPalatine

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Filed: 07:32, December 27 2006 (UTC)
  • Code letter: A

Several 'new editors' started editing and acting in concert to sway the NPOV of a hotly contested article all at approx the same time. Their actions and writing style caused other editors to believe that they might be sockpuppets and/or meatpuppets. A case was filed on BryanFromPalantine.

On Dec 26, User DP1976 admitted that he was also User IP 209.221.240.193. HERE User 209.221.240.193 posted on Dec 14, HERE and subsequently, user BryanFromPalatine both edited said post 'claiming ownership' of the post by adding his name HERE and added additional text to this same post, again representing himself as 'BryanFromPalatine' HERE

One user/IP address is therefore posting as at least three different and distinct 'users' in an effort to illegally 'vote' and sway consensus. F.A.A.F.A. 07:32, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See also this sockpuppet case; Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/BryanFromPalatine --BenBurch 07:41, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Clerk note • Removed private information posted. Please see the privacy policy. Cheers, ✎ Peter M Dodge ( Talk to Me • Neutrality Project ) 16:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As always, the BenBurch/FAAFA comedy team assumes the worst about anyone who disagrees with them. They ignore the possibility that two (or three, or more) real, live people might occasionally post from the same IP address. If they acknowledge that possibility, they then assume that they are all "Meatpuppets" rather than "sockpuppets." We are different people and we have differences of opinion, as evidenced by our different responses to the constant hostility/suspicion displayed by BenBurch/FAAFA, and as evidenced by the distinct posting histories at each IP address, prior to registration. Each IP address was used for a different period of time, to edit a completely different array of articles. - DP1976 19:27, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
More evidence

Bryanfrompalatine confirmed sockpuppetry by 12ptHelvetica who he says posts as 208.250.137.2 "B. The home address of 12ptHelvetica is 208.250.137.2" see HERE On Dec 9 at 22:05 IP 208.250.137.2 added "I see that this issue has been the subject of much contention since I last looked in on November 16".... HERE 5 minutes later 12pt posted agreeing with the post from 208 (himself) "I agree" "Count my vote in the consensus" adding a 'vote' to a consensus tally. HERE - F.A.A.F.A. 03:37, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even more evidence

On 12/21 DP1976 edited the post of 12ptHelvetica adding content HERE - F.A.A.F.A. 03:46, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me, but isn't calling all of these examples "proof" a little presumptuous of you? "Proof" indicates that it's an undeniable fact that your accusations are true, which it is not. You are providing evidence, not proof. Jinxmchue 04:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

 Confirmed DP1976 and BryanFromPalatine. It is  Possible that 12ptHelvetica is the same. Dmcdevit·t 09:05, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

 Clerk note: Bryan appears to be the puppeteer, as that account is the older of the two. Cheers, ✎ Peter M Dodge ( Talk to Me • Neutrality Project ) 17:29, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 Clerk note: "Erroneous sockpuppet finding" discussion and discussion about who is the puppeteer moved to talk page. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 01:44, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 Clerk note: case moved to Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/BryanFromPalatine - the history is still available here. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 06:33, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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