User talk:R. E. Mixer

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Strategic Air Command wings

I am quite impressed by your work on the article Strategic Air Command wings. However, the message at the top, "Redireted from:Strategic Air Command", is not correct. Such a message should appear only when there is an actual redirect, and when there is, it will be automatically created. Thanks, Ardric47 01:05, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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AfD

The part of the deletion notice which says, in bold, "this article's entry" will take you to... (wait for it) that article's entry. savidan^{(talk) (e@)} 08:45, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strategic Air Command Aircraft

I have added a copyright notice to the article. Please clarify who gave permission, what is copyrighted, where you obtained it, and what level of release you received. We cannot use copyrighted content on Wikipedia. thanks! KillerChihuahua^?!? 13:41, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirected from Strategic Air Command

Please stop adding this completely irrelevant comment to aircraft articles. --Denniss 23:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Air Force Historical Research Agency files

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Internal links sections

Please stop adding "Internal links" sections to article. 1) This is not a standard section header that is used in wikipedia, if you have a relevant article to reference, use the "See also" section. 2) Most of these aircraft were not operated by the Strategic Air Command, so this addition is not relevant. Please consider only adding constructive additions to articles. --rogerd 02:29, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Links to SAC

Please stop adding links to Strategic Air Command to topics that have no direct relationship to SAC. The only aircraft that were operated by SAC were bombers and tankers. Additionally, most WWII bombers were dropped from the inventory before the establishment of SAC in 1946. Please do some research before adding this incorrect content to wikipedia. --rogerd 16:10, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would strongly suggest that you do your research on just what kind of aircraft SAC did or did not have. I do not know what your credentials are but you are ill informed on the subject of the Strategic Air Command. The last B-29s to leave the inventory left in 1953. The last of the B-17 left the inventory leftr in 1949. The last F-51 left the inventory in 1948. the last F-82s left th inventory in 1951. the last F-84s left the inventory in 1956, the last F-86s left the inventory in 1959. There were RC-45s assigned as late as 1947. The last C-124s left the inventory in 1959. I could go on but do not wish to bore you with facts. R. E. Mixer 17:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Most of those aircraft you are mentioning (F-51, F-82, F-86, C-124) were operated by TAC or MATS, not SAC. According to the B-17 Flying Fortress article, "Following World War II, the B-17 was obsolete, and the Army Air Force retired the fleet'". --rogerd 21:01, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct however, they were not the only command that used them. The B-17 article is wrong. I do not wish to argue this subject further. Check out Strategic Air Command by Norman Pulmar and Timothy Laur. The first paragraph in the SAC article says the command had fighter until late in the '50s. I have authored three SAC books and have done the homework. Nice having chatted with you. R. E. Mixer 21:18, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion

Instead of adding [[Strategic Air Command]] to the see also sections of various articles about MAC, MATS and TAC aircraft, why not do something in the text of the article like this example of what you might add to the C-119 Flying Boxcar article:

The C-119 was mainly deployed in Military Air Transport Service wings, but was also deployed within Strategic Air Command wings, where it was used for....

or maybe:

The C-119 was operated by the Military Air Transport Service, and also in small numbers by the Strategic Air Command, who used it to ....

This would better achieve what I believe is your goal, to educate people about SAC and the role of various other aircraft in SAC's mission. That way, instead of another reader seeing your link and wondering "why the heck is SAC referenced there?", they would be able to read your text and know the reason for the SAC reference. Thanks --rogerd 22:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strategic Air Command bases

I apologize. Your first message was followed almost immediately by a different message, so when I logged on and saw the new message notice, I clicked "last change" and saw the WPMILHIST newsletter instead of your message. Sorry for any inconvenience I might have caused. But good article on the SAC bases. --Nobunaga24 23:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strategic Air Command wings

Hi Ron. I've been looking at your impressive SAC wings page, with its list of every affiliated wing ever involved with SAC. However it is a bit long and hard to read, and when I opened the edit view, it said it was over 200kb, far exceeding the recommendations at WP:SIZE. Would it be possible to split it in such a way that makes it more readable, maybe by separating Air National Guard SAC wings or something? Appreciate your thoughts. Regards Buckshot06 19:33, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ron, thanks for your response. My talk page is actually at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Buckshot06

so I've moved your response there. Um, I've also referred this to the MilHist wikiproject's lead coordinator, user:Kirill Lokshin, so you can look at that page re this as well if you wish. Buckshot06 09:14, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, what about what both I and user:Nick Dowling have suggested; reduce this page to a list, removing the size problem, and creating 108th Wings USAF, or something of the sort, if it's seen as useful to keep the history of the number together. Cheers Buckshot06 09:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What I will do soon to reduce the size of the Strategic Air Command wings page is move the Strategic wings (MAJCOM wings) to the Strategic Wings page, unless there are better suggestions. Buckshot06 22:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Understand your point about changing -ruining?- the original intent. The thing is that in building such a record of every wing's contribution to SAC, the result is so long as to be unreadable. For what it's worth, the history will be accessible by anyone looking at the inidividual wing histories. The same thing could be attempted by cutting out a lot of the duplicated information - every ANG wing that got the KC-135 initially, and the repeated notes about the first eleven organisations assigned to SAC, and possibly re-arranging it as text. I'll have a think about how such a text rendition might work and run it by you. Buckshot06 21:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to set up extra pages focusing on Bomb Wings of SAC or Recce Wings of SAC etc you should note that in the page title - otherwise people may think these are the only U.S. wings of this type. SAC Reconnaissance Wings perhaps? Buckshot06 01:59, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Page blanking

Please do not blank or remove large amounts of content from pages. It is considered vandalism. If you wish for a page to be deleted, then please follow the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion process. Thanks --rogerd 03:27, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More Wings Not listed and Suggestion

Page's intent is good, but execution needs refining. Would recommend just listing wings then linking to wing pages; if wing pages don't exist, create using a standardized template. Example on 705th Strategic Missile Wing. Need more wings not listed; strategic wings, strategic aerospace wings all above the 3-digit wings listed. Might consider changing page to a Category page like listed on bottom of 705th Strategic Missile Wing. If you want any help with the wing pages just give me a yell - I'll be happy to help TDRSS

Added Four Digit Wings Category

Type in 4950th Test Wing and click on the Four Digit Wings category at the bottom. Those wings have always had a special meaning to me, so I created a category. Feel free to add some SWs, SAWS, and anything else that fits. TDRSS

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I have added {{PD-USGov-Military-Air Force}} and the source, which I think is http://www.au.af.mil/au/afhra/rso/images/numbered_images/2af.gif --rogerd 05:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Ron

Hope you had a good holiday... greetings from Down Under. Were you aware when you created list pages for the Tac & Training Wing and Strat Weapons Wing recently that there is already an article on the 99th Wing... under 99th Air Base Wing? Cheers Buckshot06 01:45, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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