Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Orangutans in popular culture

Orangutans in popular culture

A very crufty article that was most likely made so the Orangutan article wouldn't be bloated with cruft. This isn't how Wikipedia should be working. Trim trivia and pop culture sections: don't move them into crufty articles that aren't helpful. RobJ1981 03:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Orangutan.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 03:47, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge any entries where it can be verified through the use of reliable sources that the appearance is so frakking important to the plot/storyline/event that the work/movie/game could not exist in its entirety without the lifeform in question back into the main article. Merge any entries where multiple reliable fact-checked sources indicate that the appearance is undeniably important to promoting the subject in question into the main article. Delete anything at this namespace; I believe the rest of the references can get by without a reciprocal wikilink. -- saberwyn 04:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- What Might Qualify: Dunston Checks In (film whose plot is centred around an orangutan), Discworld's Librarian (major character over multiple novels in a popular fictional series. Maybe... maybe. -- saberwyn 04:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge both the orangutan article and this are not so large that these can't be merged. Wikipedia allows otherwise unsourced plot summaries, I believe, so if the Edgar Allan Poe story can be named, I think that's good enough, and same for the Planet of the Apes and other books and films. I don't know what saberwyn means by "is undeniably important to promoting the subject in question". Noroton 04:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- If someone could provide a source saying that appearance of orangutan x in fictional work y was responsible for... say... a significant upswing in donations to conservation efforts concerning orangutans (or some similar "news-making" occurance, then it should be entered in the Orangutan article. A vague bell rings of a section of proceeds from the sales of one of Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels going towards an orangutan conservation fund, which to me would go towards qualifying The Librarian (Discworld) for a small paragraph in the main article, but I may be dreaming. -- saberwyn 04:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The purpose of the list isn't to provide information on real orangutans, it's to follow how orangutans are used in cultural artifacts of whatever sort. The purpose of the list article, aside from being entertaining, is to be a serious resource for someone researching or studying or wanting to be educated about how orangutans are depicted in popular culture. That can be a serious topic, which in turn justifies the article in a serious encyclopedia.Noroton 06:18, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]