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Julox

Just wanted to let you know the two Julox articles I submitted are very different. I tried to fix the problems with the first one. I wish people on here were more helpful. Everyone seems quick to delete my articles but no one wants to help me publish my article on this site. I don't feel that any one could of possible read my article in that short amount of time. If my article were to be read I think it would explain it self as to why it is relevant. I see plenty of other musicians on here. He is the most relevant Colorado Rap artist there is. He has a cult like following and that is suppost to be one of the criteria.Slick80 19:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't read the earlier version- it was deleted. The recent version that I read didn't appear to meet the WP:BIO guidelines, and I don't remember seeing any sources that could verify notability. If he really is notable, you should take it to deletion review, but make sure you have the sources to show notability or it won't be revived. -FisherQueen (Talk) 19:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is all still very new to me and the deletion review process does not seem very easy to me. I was reading how to do it and it thouroughly confused me. I'll give it a try but I wish people would try to help you out before immediately deleting your article. I spent a decent chunk of my time writting that. I could have given you the contact info for Angelo's Cds and you could google the name Julox see several sources proving that he is notable. It does say in WP:BIO that for an entertainer a cult like following qualifys. Maybe I'm reading that wrong. I don't know. I guess I will try to better understand the deletion review. Thanks for your time.Slick80 19:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you mentioned Angelo's CDs in the article, but that doesn't meet WP:BIO. You need articles about him written in music magazines, newspapers, that kind of thing- to show that he's been the subject of multiple nontrivial independent writings, which is the heart of the notability guideline. A cult-like following does qualify... but only if it's been written about in multiple nontrivial independent sources. One of my favorite musicians is Michael Longcor, and while he has a cult-like following, he doesn't have (as far as I've found) the sources that would allow me to create an article about him. -FisherQueen (Talk) 19:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Holy cow! There IS an article about him! Unfortunately, it's only sourced with links to his own webpage... even though I love him, I have to do the right thing. I'll spend a little time trying to add better sources, and if I can't, then I'll nominate him for deletion. -FisherQueen (Talk) 19:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Note that some Wikipedians create articles in multiple saves, so try to avoid deleting a page too soon after its initial creation. Users nominating a page for speedy deletion should specify which criteria the page meets; it would also be considerate to notify the original author." THought this was a good quote that I found on this website. Seeing as both of my articles have been deleted before I knew what happened.Slick80 19:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So you are saying that you have the needed sources, and just hadn't added them yet? Deletion review should be a piece of cake, then. -FisherQueen (Talk) 19:51, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"so try to avoid deleting a page too soon after its initial creation." Plus how do I add Sources? I was going to try and do that with my second article but it got deleted very quickly. What if I want to make it a stub? How is a stub different?Slick80 19:53, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A stub is a very short article, just the basics of a topic and one or two key sources, that can be expanded into a full article at a later time. You can find guidelines for citing sources at Wikipedia:Citing sources-FisherQueen (Talk) 19:55, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ThanksSlick80 20:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I must say that I don't see how this article on Michael Longcor is anymore relevant than mine.Slick80 20:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not. It's a terrible article. I linked there expecting a redlink and no article, and instead I saw a poorly sourced article about a minor musician. Even though I like him, I'll refer him for deletion- I just want to see if I can make the article better before I do it, and I don't have time right this minute. It'll be better or gone within 48 hours. -FisherQueen (Talk) 20:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion both he and Julox belong on here. I want to know why you shouldn't be able to come on here type in his name or Julox's name and be able to read about them. I think that if someone really took the time to write an article about them and there is enough proof to tell that the article is truthful, then it belongs. But that's just me. I don't really think I like this site as much as I thought I did and don't know if I'll try to continue to contribute to it.Slick80 20:31, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. There are lots of sites like you describe, where you can find information about just about anyone that someone thought was worth writing about. Try MySpace, it should be just what you're looking for. -FisherQueen (Talk) 10:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just for the record- I tried making my improvements to Michael Longcor, but I'm still dubious about whether he meets the standard, so after improving it, I sent it to AfD. I'll let the community decide. -FisherQueen (Talk) 18:17, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

thanks, and a question

hi -- i read the page you referred me to, thank you. i won't add any more external links to articles unless they're appropriate (as i understand that term). i have a question, though: why do IMDB and other sites get proc links for celebrity names and movie titles? and i imagine those DO improve their search engine rankings? -AArgabrite 15:20 ET, 16 March 2007

My understanding is that the nofollow links wikipedia uses prevent wiki links from affecting rankings. You'd need a better nerd than me to explain how, though. -FisherQueen (Talk) 19:48, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

also -- i was wondering: why are Yahoo Movies celeb pages not taken down, if imdb is the community consensus? (it's under External Links for Jessica Alba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_alba#External_links), for example) -- Aargabrite 16:27 ET, 16 March 2007

The problem with what you were doing is that you were only adding links, and only to one site. Whether it's a useful site or not, when one person is just here to promote a web site, that person is considered a spammer. It doesn't have anything to do with the merits of the specific sites. There are lots of ways you can help on Wikipedia, if that's what you want to do, besides linking to that one site. -20:52, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

but i still don't understand why the external links to yahoo movies are not considered spam

If you've read the external links policy and think those links are spam, then by all means discuss it on the talk page and seek community consensus to remove them. If you are feeling inspired to try to remove more spam from Wikipedia, we could use the help at Wikiproject Spam. -FisherQueen (Talk) 21:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why?

So, you go and try to get my page deleted. How does this possibly ignore Wiki's rules? Trivia? What trivia? It's information on the game Tyrian. What, so now you're going to take away the page on Halo weapons? It's a source, not a test. It belongs on Wiki for the pure reason of being a reference to other people who have downloaded the game Tyrian. Remove the request please unless you give me one solid reason why it should be deleted. [color=navyblue]Alxnotorious[/color] 20:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

What? I didn't prod Tyrian weapons, though I don't disagree with the prodding. I'm the one who placed the tag for references. Check the article history again. -FisherQueen (Talk) 20:16, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon me for my blaming you. It was a blind mistake on my part. I'm moving the text to the game's original page since it makes no sense to leave it out in the open. Sorry. Alxnotorious 02:42, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Im at a bording school and the only website i get is wikipedia

so delete my shit and ill just make a new one , kk have a nive day ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ak-47ck (talk • contribs)

I guess your school doesn't want you to be doing online social networking, either, then. That's two good reasons to stop. -FisherQueen (Talk) 20:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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On 215

I have a slight problem. I'm in a musical group called "215" and would like to make ourselves known, with a little assistance from Wikipedia. I've treid posting this information around 4 times, and each time I get my information taken down, or deleted. How can I post information about our group, and NOT have it be deleted? Zliljoemz 6:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

You can't. You are violating Wikipedia guidelines by promoting your own band, and you are violating Wikipedia guidelines by adding information about a band that is not notable by Wikipedia's definition. In addition to that, you are violating Wikipedia guidelines by not providing independent nontrivial sources for the information. What you should do is continue working to promote your band in the real world, and after the band is well-known and has been written about in several music magazines, someone who is not a member of the band will create an article on Wikipedia. -FisherQueen (Talk) 22:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"215" Music Group Issue

I've been attempting to post useful information about my music group to give people the answers to frequesntly asked questions I've been recieving. But you keep deleting the information from the 215 results page. I was wondering why? Am I entering something wrong? Can you please tell me a way I can put in the desired information without having it deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zliljoemz (talk • contribs)

Please read my answer to your question, which I posted above. The answer to your question is still the same now. This band is not an appropriate subject for a Wikipedia article at this time. -FisherQueen (Talk) 22:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

snerk

The spelling of "dearth" must have been taught in the fourth grade, then. :) Did you see my ANI report, or are you just catching up on my personal vitriol for the past week? -- Merope 20:29, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've been following the situation on your talk page, but left it alone because- well, because I figured, "It's Merope, she's perfectly capable of handling this situation, and there's no need for me to irritate the guy any further." But I noticed your ANI report and figured he was probably irritated enough that it didn't matter if I pointed out that tiny problem. -FisherQueen (Talk) 20:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be honest, though, this guy really grated my cheese. Mostly because he was just skirting the rules and I couldn't just block him for being a dick. In hindsight, I probably should have--I mean, why else do I have Category:Rouge admins on my page? Oh, well.

Separate from the question of capitalization style- which I will agree is an area about which reasonable people can disagree- he expressed himself, at least in the edits I saw, in a way that seems to guarantee that no one will want to agree with him. Good manners are especially important when no one can see your face. -FisherQueen (Talk) 20:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, he was being a total wiener. -- Merope 21:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]