User talk:A.Z./Every user should be able to block other users

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What problem?

What problem is this trying to solve? Are people running around making bad blocks? We already have means of dealing with this. Friday (talk) 06:38, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What means do we have of dealing with bad blocks? A.Z. 18:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Try Wikipedia:Dispute resolution for an overview of dispute resolution. More specifically, any admin can unblock- this happens quite frequently in the case of bad blocks. I remember reading about one just today. Any user can ask for a block review from another admin by using the {{unblock}} template. Honestly, I think you'd do well to spend lots more time becoming familiar with existing Wikipedia guidelines and practices before suggesting new ones. Friday (talk) 21:08, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there is a system for dealing with this particular issue, but the administrators are the ones deciding everything. What do you think about the argument by Chris is me that this is a wiki and there's no reason to stop anyone from having the same tools than everyone else?

If you answer that you agree with him and there is nothing stopping me and everyone from becoming an administrator, then I'll answer that I think that the current way of selecting who is going to become an administrator is flawed: the process prevents a lot of good Wikipedians from becoming administrators, the process is biased and it is not likely to let most users become administrators.

I do agree with Chris is me, and the only reason why this essay is not called "Every user should be an administrator" is that there would be too much opposition to this idea and possibly some legal issues due to the fact everyone would be able to see deleted content.

But you seem to understand about the whole issue and maybe you can answer once and for all: would people present objections concerning legal issues if the proposal were that every user should be an administrator? A.Z. 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also in favor of making the barrier to adminship lower. I've made the suggestion several times that we should grant the admin tools liberally to reasonable editors who request them, and then only worry about taking them away if they get abused. Blocking is an odd tool to pick tho- it should be used the least frequently of all of them. Not sure that's a good place to start. I'd be in favor of being more careful about granting the ability to block than the ability to delete and undelete. Wrong blocks cause more than their fair share of drama. Friday (talk) 00:01, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]