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Kennedy and Riverdale Country School

I positively know that Kennedy attended Riverdale Country School in the Bronx, but I don't know how to provide a citation for this fact. It's unfortunate that Wikipedia requires so many citations and references. I know many other facts about Kennedy's tenure in the Bronx, but it is difficult for me to prove the authenticity of my edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthony22 (talk • contribs)

My edit to Cruise ship

Sorry, I didn't mean to blank it. It was the Popup revert tools colliding, I used mine, but another user got there first and reverted it, unaware. It still went on reverting to the vandalised version, apologies. Telcourbanio Care for a talk? 20:53, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No worries...User:DerHexer actually beat me to the punch on several reverts in the past hour and it looks like he did the same to you : ) Doc Tropics 20:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey he just beat me to another revert. :). Must drop an antivandal barnstar on his page. Telcourbanio Care for a talk? 21:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gave him one, and I've just relised how many he's been given in the past week. :D. Telcourbanio Care for a talk? 21:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, I guess he's been busy. BTW - Keep up the good work : ) Doc Tropics 21:33, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More Dino Fun

Hi, I've been away a long while, but I noticed some shenanigans with the main Dinosaur article. You are much better at expressing things factually and appropriately, so I hope you'll join the discussion. Doc Tropics 22:11, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Doc!

Good to see you! Thanks for your message. I've weighed in on talk:Dinosaur, but I'm afraid it wasn't the response you were hoping for: I'm in support of keeping the section, as helps keep the Christian groups satisfied that were are at least trying to maintain a NPOV encyclopedia, and if anyone adds Christian POV to any of the 1,000 genus-level articles, we can divert that to Religious perspectives on dinosaurs, and keep the religious aspects to two dinosaur articles: the aforementioned Religious perspectives and (if a Christian ever notices it) "Unicerosaurus".

This has been the compromise for quite a while, and I think it works pretty well. When Religious perspectives came up for deletion, we were all worried that the article's deletion would cause some problems. As long as that article remains, and as long as there's a (very) brief intro to it from the main dinosaur article, I think it will help keep the peace. I could be wrong, of course... Firsfron of Ronchester 23:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No worries my friend. I may have succumbed to a temporary bout of sputtering indignation for no good reason. I'm sure you understand my frustration when certain types of editors start mucking about in the articles that I take an interest in....Regardless, it's good to "see" you again. I hope all is well for you. Doc Tropics 23:06, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I certainly understand the need for a scientific basis for Wikipedia articles on scientific topics, yes. And all is well here. Firsfron of Ronchester 23:31, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Your edit to my talk page was pretty funny. I doubt the editor will get the subtle sarcasm however. LOL Orangemarlin 00:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad it got a chuckle. I've got nothing against the occassional "fuck" myself, but using it 3 times in 8 words indicates a rather depressing lack of imagination. Doc Tropics 00:13, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Dinosaur

No problem, and thanks for the kind comment. I haven't contributed much to the Dinosaur article, because my research background is invertebrate palaeo not vertebrates, but I do stop by from time to time It's nice to see the article so well looked after, and by so many knowledgeable people. Keep it up! Cheers, Neale Neale Monks 18:01, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm Blocked?

Y	Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): There has been an issue with autoblocks today; it should be fixed now. Request handled by: —Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be collateral damage and I would greatly appreciate unblocking. Thanks in advance. Doc Tropics 21:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I knew it. You are an evil person. :) Orangemarlin 22:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well yeah, but I didn't think that being inherently evil was a blockable offense. I was trying to respond on the Dino page when I found I'd been blocked. No doubt God is punishing me...Doc Tropics 22:09, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The block should have worn off - please re-request if not. Martinp23 22:15, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon me. If I am going to insult you, I should do it in an appropriate manner. Scum!!!!! Oh wait a minute, let me be more creative. My dear Doctor Tropics. I find you to be a reprehensible character, hardly worthy of intelligent commentary, save for the fact that I take pity on individuals who have less cranial volume than Australopithecus, who learned to walk upright only in the past year, and who sense of humor is less refined than a Three Stooges slapfest. However, you only deserve my deepest derision and I heartily support any block henceforth. Better? :) Orangemarlin 22:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LMAO! Now that's an insult! Just don't waste all your good stuff on me, save some for the trolls : ) Doc Tropics 22:36, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Doc,

Sorry I wasn't online when you posted your autoblock requests. I had to put out some fires elsewhere and didn't get your messages until now. Seems like you're able to edit, now, so I'll be on my merry way. If it happens again, please let me know. Autoblocks are evil. Eeeeevil! Firsfron of Ronchester 22:53, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No worries Fir, I figured you were either off-line or busy with something more pressing than my personal problems. You've always been very responsive as an admin. Now that you are available however, I'd like to request that Orangemarlin be perma-blocked from WP. I've just found out that he's Jewish, and you know that if those people are allowed to edit here it will lower our property values, children will be led into drugs and prostitution, society itself will begin to crumble, etc., etc. Please, act now before it's too late! Doc Tropics 23:06, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I can't block him for being Jewish, but I noticed his userpage says he "thinks different". The Apple usage could well get him blocked, but the bad grammar ("thinks different") is worth a good banning, methinks. ;) Firsfron of Ronchester 23:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that all the polls say (my own polling) that owners of Apple Computers are the most intelligent, funniest, best-looking, best-dressed, and all around the best at everything Wikipedia editors. Just thought you should know. Orangemarlin 23:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm sure the owners of Apple Computers are intelligent and all that. It doesn't explain the "thinks different" gaffe. ;) Firsfron of Ronchester 23:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'm missing the humor here. He "thinks different." I must be dense, thereby contradicting the point made above. Orangemarlin 00:25, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Different" is an adjective. "Differently" is an adverb. You can substitute a synonym for different, such as "distinct" to see the effect of using an adverb where an adjective is needed: "This user thinks distinct." More here. And now I have revealed that I'm a grammar nerd. :/ And, yes, I'm aware it was the motto of Apple Computers. It was just a joke. But now that I've had to explain it, it's not nearly as funny... :( Firsfron of Ronchester 07:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I certainly will never ask a question like that again.Orangemarlin 08:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Drugs and prostitution? Come on, I want to make real money. Pornography. That's where the money is. Orangemarlin 23:41, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, by the way, any political correctness cops, please realize all of the above is humor. Well except for the part where the editor infers that the Jewish cabal lowers property values. That's just offensive, and has caused me undue psychological harm. Orangemarlin 23:43, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also it was blatantly untrue; everybody knows it goes the other way, right? BTW - I'm only making fun of your religion/ethnicity because I don't have enough info to properly mock your appearance or choice of pets. Still, you're a businessman and apparently a coffee addict, so we have some things in common : ) Doc Tropics 23:52, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Addict is not the correct word. More like obsessive-compulsive. I'm pretty thick skinned about my Jewishness, because there are more serious issues in the world than making a humorous comment about one's religion. Holocaust denial pisses me off, however, just so you know there is a limit. Oh, yeah, picking on my Apple technology is just plain mean. Orangemarlin 00:24, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mean indeed; and someone using an Apple has enough problems that we really shouldn't add to the burden. Seriously though, I only started on the Jewish thing because I was pretty sure you'd understand it as humor and not be offended, but there are any number of things I won't do, even for the sake of humor. Holocaust denial is so far over the line I can't even fathom it; that kind of crap is even worse than Creationism. On a lighter note, if you want to make fun of me on personal grounds, I'm a middle-aged white male so there's no shortage of ammunition available. Go ahead, blame me for global warming! Doc Tropics 00:37, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why pick on you, when there are so many Creationist trolls that show up. And of course, our friend from yesterday who couldn't even use the word "fuck" creatively. I actually started watching the Dinosaur article because I noticed many months ago that Creationists would occasionally vandalize the article. It lead me to an interesting observation--there must be 100,000 different articles on Wikipedia, innocent ones like Hawaiian Islands that mention ages that are well before Creationist timelines, yet no one ever edits them. The Creationist POV pushers seem to focus on about 20 articles, Charles Darwin and Evolution at the top of their list. By the way, I'm heading out to an Atheists meeting at the local Charles Darwin "Evolutionists" meeting. I'm trying to find a Christian virgin to sacrifice. Orangemarlin 00:48, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, good luck with that. I was having so much trouble finding sacrificial virgins that I finally bought a breeding pair in order to grow my own. Doc Tropics 00:51, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Damn, that's expensive. Food. Xbox 360 for entertainment. All that whining and crying. And then there's the fact that good Christians shouldn't be breeding. And I'm not contaminating my Jewish line by helping out on the breeding. Orangemarlin 00:56, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It can get expensive, but when you need a virgin in the middle of the night, and all the stores are closed, that's when it really pays off. Sadly, the IRS objected when I claimed them as a perfectly legitimate business expense. Bah. Doc Tropics 01:01, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the IRS is run by the secret Christian Anti-Evolutionist Alliance. You did know that? Orangemarlin 01:06, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Real dinosaur question

Is there any evidence of Post-KT dinosaurs (let's set aside Aves for the time-being)? I cannot believe that 100% of species went extinct, because mammals apparently survived. Certainly there were small dinosaur carnivores that munched on a few of our ancestors after the extinction event. Orangemarlin 00:28, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly OM, I'm not an expert in the field, but Firs is; he would be much better able to give a meaningful answer. As you point out, mammals (in some form) survived, so the event couldn't have been 100% fatal across the board. Doc Tropics 00:42, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're useless. Thanks. :) Orangemarlin 00:48, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Intelligent Design

RE(crossposted to both editors):

I know that things have gotten a little heated here, and I wanted to warn you about 3RR. You and the other editor both seem to be at the limit, and an unfriendly Admin might issue a block if things go any further today. I know, because it happened to me last year and now I have a "black mark" on my record. I can actually see both sides of the issue, and I think that further discussion with more input from other editors would really help. Doc Tropics 02:06, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's because you haven't looked at the edits. I count two, and as a matter of right I'm entitled to use my three in instances where I see fit to do so. Thanks for the info. ... Kenosis 02:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I point out the following edit by Doc Tropics to the page of Africangenesis: here which was posted about 10 minutes after the exchange just above. I notice that "Kenosis" quite plainly was intentionally rearranged to "Kensosis". (I arrived at this observation because the edit on Africangenesis' talk page included the following statement by Doc Tropics, which stated: "... In any event, Kensosis seems determined to push things to the limit, so the only one who can de-escalate the situation is User:Africangenesis". Not necessarily disagreeing with the proposition placed on User talk:Africangenesis that "the only one who can de-escalate the situation is [Africangenesis]", I wonder what the purpose might be of intentionally altering a WP username such as mine, specifically as "[[User:Kenosis|Kensosis]]" as appears to have been deliberately written into the thread. And I also wonder what might be the purpose of making the statement that "Kensosis seems determined to push things to the limit", in the context of the article on Intelligent design or otherwise?. ... Kenosis 04:50, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(crossposting) "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by poor spelling". Seriously, it was the middle of the night and I didn't notice that I spelled your name incorrectly; there was nothing sisister about it, I assure you. As for the rest, it was simply my honest evaluation of the situation, based on your own comments above. I have nothing against you K, and I'm not out to get you, I was just trying to defuse a revert war out of concern for the editors involved. Nothing more, nothing less. Doc Tropics 15:48, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

*Wow, look what happens when you make a genuine good-faith effort to resolve a revert war; there's just no helping some people. Fortunately these types tend to self-destruct and get banned for 'exhausting the community's patience'. At least it gives me something to look forward to : ) Doc Tropics 16:14, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No sweat. It came across as a 3RR warning, and I responded a bit angrily, so I suppose I deserved it. Anyway, take care. ... Kenosis 20:13, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if I came across the wrong way, I really was just trying to offer a little assist to two good editors that were kinda butting heads. But since you've come back and explained your response, I've struck out my own somewhat angry words as a show of good faith. I'd be quite happy to see all sides forgive-and-forget; after all, we share the same goals. Thanks Kenosis. Doc Tropics 20:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You bet. See y'later on. ... Kenosis 20:33, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back!

Hey! Just saw your name pop up on the old watchlist. Good to see you again! :-) CaptainVindaloo ^{t c e} 16:21, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings, Your Grace. I was away for many months due to family situations, but it's good to be back. I've always remembered the great teamwork we did...do you have any fun projects going on? Doc Tropics 16:25, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I got a peer review for SWAT3 (I left you a message about it actually, in case you haven't found it) to see if it could be got to GA, but I've not been able to do much work on it or anything else. Too much coursework and exams. >_< CaptainVindaloo ^{t c e} 16:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good work on SWAT3! I understand about time limitiations; I log in many times a day, but I can only work for a few minutes at a time, then I have to go take care of other things. Good luck with your exams, and let me know if I can help with anything : ) Doc Tropics 16:44, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! CaptainVindaloo ^{t c e} 16:53, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am also glad to see Doc return. Welcome back!--Filll 20:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Filll, good to "see" you again too. I notice you're still hard at work here : ) Doc Tropics 20:12, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the neat barnstar! I'll try not to make you choke on or spit out your coffee, but you gotta let me know when you're not drinking coffee. Whenever that is... Firsfron of Ronchester 20:54, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I've been trying to cut down my coffee intake and have recently been limiting myself to 2 pots per day...usually : ) Doc Tropics 16:56, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back! (II)

I caught the greeting you left me in an edit summary at Teenage pregnancy. I'm glad to see that you're back on Wikipedia. It's great to have you around! :-) -Severa (!!!) 22:14, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see you remembered the reference. Thanks! :-) I must admit that I'd gotten a little worried about your absence over these past few months. So, I'm just glad that you've returned, even if your time is limited. Every bit helps! -Severa (!!!) 19:24, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! You beat me to it by seconds.

I mean adding the birth and death dates for Geraldine Innocente. Very impressive! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lottamiata (talk • contribs).

My pleasure. When I saw the new artricle I used Google to look for more info. There seems to be plenty out there, it's just not very easy to dig out the useful tidbits. Good luck and happy editing : ) Doc Tropics 21:03, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bumblebee!

I think I got rid of it all...—Gaff ^ταλκ 01:10, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Alley

Hey Doc, good to see you around. I'm don't know you'll remember, but you've helped me out here and there before. Anyway, I see you did some editing on the Henry Alley article. Well, I was wondering if you had time to give a closer look at the formatting and such. Seems my cleanup tag brought a ridiculous charge of homophobia and I'm afraid any legit editing I do on the article will come under fire. Of course I'm just interested in the article being as good as possible, but the good ol' third opinion always seems to help in these situations. Anyway, I'm also concerned the list of publications is overlong, but I don't have much experience with articles about academics so maybe that's normal for them? Anyway, let me know what you think, thanks! Katr67 15:45, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]