Talk:Artist-run initiative

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Proposed merger with Artist-run space

  • Support. There is certainly no need for both articles; which is merged with which I leave to others, though. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 20:50, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Artist-run spaces and artist-run initiatives are essentially the same type of organisations although it is up to the individual group to decide which label to use. In Australia, artist-run initiative has become the norm under government funding language to include organisations that may not be based in a physical space (e.g. cyber/temporal/project-based). din 21:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The additional information about specific Australian usage of this term is interesting and should be reflected in any resolved naming. AllyD 11:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • See also the Artist collective article and the associated category. There is a lot of overlap across all these. AllyD 11:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Plus ‎Not-for-profit arts organization which covers the same ideas. Which term would be the main term that the others redirect too? In Canada it's usually "artist-run centre" (old term "parallel gallery") and the decidedly more pompous "artist-run culture." Freshacconci 22:02, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support otherwise. Freshacconci 22:03, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As long as the variant terms (including: ‘artist-run space’, ‘artist-run initiative’, ‘artist-run centre’) are noted within a merged article, I do not see any problem. In a book I am working on about Victorian artist-run spaces, there are a number of contributors who raise this very issue of classification. Many a heated argument has ensued. After six months of debate, I'm sorry to say there is no single answer. So (mostly to escape injury) we have applied all of the above variations in their original context, including terms used in commentaries from Canadian and German artist-run projects connected to groups here in Australia. There are political and ideological implications in this debate and what seems superficial is in fact a minefield of opinion. While this comment may be simply continuing the confusion, it also demonstrates the way artists work with the assumption that everything is in a state of flux, including our naming of things. (Din Heagney 14:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC))[reply]
  • Disagree. I don't know much about encyclopedia organization but having distinct pages for all these terms seems useful to me, if only so each term is equally searchable, but also because each term might mean something slightly different and having someone most familiar with that particular variation write the definition for it would be good.
There is a structure emerging here:
‎Not-for-profit arts organization - should cover the legal definition, governance, mission, etc.
Artist-run space - refers primarily to these type of organizations in the US
Artist-run centre - refers primarily to Canada
Artist-run space - primarily Australia and New Zealand, possibly the UK also
Then there could also be 'country' pages:
Canadian artist-run centres
US artist-run spaces
Australian artist-run initiatives
etc.
The pages on Museums, types of museums, etc. should also be modified to include reference to these pages.

Howboy 18:53, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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