Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Optare

Starting

Thanks for setting it up. As I am quite busy at the moment I will start on Saturday. -- Arriva ⁴³⁶ 19:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC) [reply]

History

How far back should the articles of Histoical Products go? As for the really old ones, I don't know a lot about at all. -- Arriva ⁴³⁶ 16:41, 29 January 2007 (UTC) [reply]

1980 bodie plus should have an article. Unisouth 10:41, 4 February 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Template

If anyone can get the template below to the top of the page, please do so. Help would be greatly appreciated!

Unisouth, I have created this template and put it on all the East Lancs articles, but I can't get it to stay at the top of this page of the main East Lancs talk page. Also, please feel free to improve it, I made a very basic one. (Now moved up) -- Arriva ⁴³⁶ 18:57, 30 January 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Fixed! Unisouth 21:05, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

East Lancs subsidiaries

Regarding the East Lancs subsidiaries section I added to the East Lancs article (logos too), the preview of the new look ELC website implies thier will be more detailed sections of the subsidiaries. For now, I've created stubs for:

-- Arriva ⁴³⁶ 10:43, 4 February 2007 (UTC) [reply]

User subpage to keep track of things done for Wikiproject ELCB so far

I created these subpages accesible from my user page, to keep tabs on the things I have done for Wikiproject ELCB so far:

User:Arriva436/WikiprojectELCBthings - Parent page

Arriva ⁴³⁶ 21:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC) [reply]

New Infoboxes

I have made this infobox for use on East Lancs bus articles, and have put it on the Esteem and Olympus articles. However, some aspects of it don't work and display (example) "{{{passenger capacity}}}" instead of "33 to 60", when the other specification information displays properly. I can not see the difference in the code to make the infobox between ones that work and ones that don't. So if someone can fix them, it would be brilliant.

All the imformation I wanted to put up is there, but doesn't want to display.

-- Arriva ⁴³⁶ 14:43, 24 March 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Pictures added

As can be seen on the Lolyne, Esteem and Olympus articles, I went to the 2007 Cobham bus gathering held at Longcross and managed to get photos of the nearside of the Lolyne (as oppsosed to the offside of the Yellow buses one), and (I put into the article infoboxes) an Esteem and Olympus. This is good as it helps illustrate the buses without the need for the external link "Here is a picture of a ..." at the bottom. And ilustrating the buses helps with the confusion of ELC's confusing name pattern!

The only problem is that the Esteem is such a 'high quality' scan that the red paintwork 'blotches' a bit when the image is small. Here though, it is fine!

If anyone can find/upoload any more of their ELC bus pictures, it would be great!

As can be seen on my user page, I have uploaded a lot of photos and put them on many articles. It took ages!

--Arriva ⁴³⁶ 11:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC) [reply]

I think they are great! The Esteem doesn't blotch that bad. Thanks for uploading them. Unisouth 13:05, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Greenway and EL2000

I've created (well, started at any rate) the articles for the Greenway and EL2000; it might be an idea if someone checks them for accuracy. Quackdave 19:14, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, I've checked them and they seem OK -- Arriva ⁴³⁶ 16:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

European and Flyte

I've added these to the template (since they seem obvious ones to consider doing next), though I don't know that much about them so haven't started the actual articles.

See also the note I left on the template talk page about a couple of others. Quackdave 19:14, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

-- Good idea Arriva ⁴³⁶ 16:11, 22 June 2007 (UTC) [reply]

OK, I've now done very basic stubs for the MaxCi and the European, along with pictures, which are rather low-res but are better than nothing as a "starter for ten". I have said very little about them because I know very little -- indeed, I always thought the European was low-floor until, whilst attempting to do some research on Google, I found several photos clearly showing them to be step-entrance! I always thought that the whole point of the "L" at the end of L113CRL (where there would otherwise be a B) was low-floor... Am I at least right that the MaxCi is low-floor? (Surely they wouldn't have registered the first one "L3 LOW" if it wasn't!) Quackdave 23:39, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Names for earlier models

I'm sure I've heard the double-deck body that looked like the Alexander R Type (examples: Nottingham 349-353, 481-492) called by a single letter name - was it E Type? (A quick search on Google suggests my memory to be correct for once!)

However, I've never heard a name for the distinctive double-deck body built during the 1980s, with the downward-sloping front upper deck window bay, double-curvature upper deck windscreen, and wraparound lower deck windscreen. (Examples: most Leicester Dominators from B reg to F reg; G6xx EKA; H6xx GPF). I have heard it called "the coach style body" or equivalent, but that's misleading since many were buses (even early ones like Leicester's 79-83). Does it have a proper name? If not, what should we call it? "East Lancs 198x double-deck body" perhaps? (With x replaced by the confirmed year of introduction!) - Quackdave 19:14, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Update: from the research I've done online, it looks like the first ones were built in 1984, and the last in 1991. So maybe "East Lancs 1984-1991 double-deck body" ? (Bit of a long title, but necessary to avoid ambiguity? - unless it turns out to have a name!) Quackdave 22:37, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, lots of East Lancs bodies seem to just be called "East Lancs" with no particular body name (helpful on wikipedia!), so I think that name should be OK.

Just to say that I have been busy recently, so have not been on Wikipedia as much, so edits for this project on my behalf have slowed down a bit. Hopefully, I will be able to edit a bit more soon. So all your edits Quackdave are very helpful Thank you Arriva ⁴³⁶ 16:15, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! I think I've changed my mind about including the end date of 1991 though, since I'd forgotten about the rebodied Volvo B58 that Skill's had, which according to buslistsontheweb.co.uk has a date of 7/1993, presumably for entering service. Now I vaguely remember that Skill's may have had some delay recertifying it, issues with weight distribution springs to mind? Anyway, without being certain I think "1984 style" is probably safer, and will go for that. Quackdave 11:57, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]