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BetacommandBot (talk) 16:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
The name Gojira.
The story of the name Gojira coming from the nickname of a Toho employee was also published as part of the Official Godzilla Compendium (by J.D. Lees and Marc Cerasini, published by Random House in 1998) at the bottom of page 12. It is written as though it were fact, however, the employee is not identified. Excerpt below:
"Finding a title was still a problem. The tongue-twisting name Kaitei Niman Mairu Kara Kita Dai Kaiju (The Big Monster from 20,000 Miles Underneath the Sea) was attached to it, but Tanaka knew that was a non-starter.
One day a friend told Tanaka about an overweight, lumbering press agent working in Toho's publicity department. The man was so immense that some of the staff nicknamed him "Gojira"--a word formed by combining the Japanese words for gorilla (gorira) and whale (kujira). Tanaka loved the name, and after considering it for a few days, he decided to use it for his monster.
Thus, Gojira was born."
Hypershell (talk) 21:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Trimming the fat
The "Incarnations" section is needlessly bloated and simply reiterates the plot of each and every Godzilla movie instead of discussing the character.
I reduced the Heisei section first as it was the longest. I'd really appreciate some help in trimming the fat off the rest of this section as well. As it stands, Godzilla's article is very, very "In-Universe", very TL;DR and would probably bore anybody but a hardcore Godzilla fan to tears. Let's see if we can give it some Real World context so that the Average Joe who happens to look up "Godzilla" won't be instantly turned off by the length and make this article actually useful.
And remember, citations are a wikipedian's best friend :D
K00bine (talk) 09:33, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Major Rewrite
I'm gonna do a rewrite of the entire article. The article is too in-universe and needs a major cleanup. If anyone has any complaints or objections, please respond. — Enter Movie (talk) 00:30, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way you can find to include a list of the Godzilla movies in your rewrite? maybe include how many there are and titles, years, etc.? or maybe that should be a different page? i don't think it needs to be massively in depth, i just think it needs to be there. or if not and we want to keep this focused on the character itself, maybe there should be a page that focuses on the original movie? Killemall22 (talk) 04:05, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- Can we respond with praise and suggestions? ;) I like the sleeker format, but agree that there needs to be a more extensive film section. He is a major movie star, after all!! Pairadox (talk) 04:17, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- sorry~! i forgot to say thank you for working on this and doing such it good job, it was a very long article. and yes it is just a suggestion. thank you again!Killemall22 (talk) 04:22, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm working on the film section, but it's not gonna be in-depth or else it would be in-universe. You guys can help if you want, but be sure to make it short. Here are examples of good character pages: Michael Myers (Halloween) and Jason Voorhees. — Enter Movie (talk) 04:41, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I like that the article has been reduced in size. However, I think it *does* need a bit more "in-universe" content, and to describe Godzilla as a character; his role in the films, his special abilities, and so on, just summarised and made blatantly clear that he's fictional. The brief summary of his powers that was in the previous article would be a nice re-addition, I think, and maybe a short section explaining that he has had multiple incarnations over the years, but not going into gratuitous detail about them.
K00bine (talk) 18:24, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- Okay. It can be in-universe, but the majority of the article can't be in-universe. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction). — Enter Movie (talk) 22:43, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
About Zilly....
His mother was a salamander. Guess Who? (talk) 17:27, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
This article needs improvement.
Seriously, its really important, we need to get it to Good Article status atleast, people contribute! I want to see it become featured! JTBX (talk) 01:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- Uhhh... you know you're making the article in-universe? The "in popular culture" section doesn't need to be in the article 'cause it already has it's own page, there's already a Godzilla video games article, and the "incarnations" section is the one that makes this article mainly in-universe. See Michael Myers (Halloween), Jason Voorhees, and Predator (alien); they are really good examples on how character pages should be. I'm currently trying to work on the article. — Enter Movie (talk) 17:01, 3 February 2008 (UTC)