Talk:Urination

Drips?

Might be an idea to include something about post-urination drips and drops in the pants.

Micturation not unrination?

A physician who is also an amateur grammarian told me that urination is the process of producing urine. The process of disposing of it through the urethra is micturation. Any commenents on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.201.169.149 (talk • contribs) 20:51, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I really don't think so. Micturition includes the process by which fluid from the nephrons travels to the bladder. A3camero (talk) 18:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC) (3B Biomedical Sciences at University of Waterloo)

Doctors can be wrong, and frequently are. Even if he's right, changing the article would only produce confusion, would obscure knowledge instead of sharing it.

What I find really compelling, however, is that anyone would identify himself as an "amateur grammarian".

--63.25.236.17 (talk) 21:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Male urination while having an erection?

I had an argument over this at school (I say a male can do so) and came to Wikipedia to see if it's possible. I don't know, maybe I missed something, but I can't find anything on this page. I think something should be provided, but it would need evidence to support it and I don't know where to look - and I've been looking. So maybe someone could do that, I don't know. Just thought I'd suggest it. - Esoteric18 17/03/07

Depends just how big an erection. When the sponge tissue in the penis becomes engorged, it flips a valve in the urethra so that semen can't get into the upper urinary tract.. but as the boner subsides, urination becomes possible again, although it often starts to trickle or spurt intermittently.

I've urinated with an erection before. Its easy, and typically causes you to lose your boner. DurotarLord 19:15, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

How about the morning chub pee? Sallicio (talk) 22:17, 11 January 2008 (UTC)Sallicio

Female urination while standing

I think disgusting thinks takes place in wikipedia, but i think that part "female urination while standing" is digusting with no real meaning. I've never read some manual like that and i think that is absolutely nonsence to say "turn vagina that and that way..." this is more than disgusting. --85.70.245.86 22:55, 8 October 2005 (UTC) (kaja.running.cz)

How is this "disgusting?" You do know words like penis, labia, and vagina are perfectly acceptable and proper terms for body parts. If this offends you then just stop logging on, because women can pee standing up if they're so inclined and they know how... Orbframe 01:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I can pee standing up and I have friends who can do it and there's nothing wrong with it! Just stop whining about it. You can't avoid the truth! -Unknown

Actually, I found this piece of the article very helpful and practical, and probably wouldn't have thought of it if I had not read it here on wikipedia. Do not assume that because a single individual isn't mature enough to handle an idea like this that it's not an acceptable idea. --Anonymous

Personally, while I think they can, I think the key point would be that women cannot direct their flow of urination as well as men can, which is why they do it sitting down. It's confusing why this is being argued about so much. It's common sense, men have a tube they can aim, and a smaller opening.

I never even knew it was possible for women to pee standing. It's amazing. -Someone

• That's not the point. This is an article that should be treated professionally, not as some magazine article or something open for opinionated discussion. Please use the talk page for the article itself, not the topic it upholds. Thanks. Colonel Marksman 03:52, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

I still remember this one chick i knew who could pee standing up. we were all 10, and when i went to go pee in the woods, she followed me, picked a spot by a tree, unzipped her jeans and peed onto it. I was like "WHAT THE FLYING BUCKETS OF POO?!" She had mad skills though. Not only could she pee standing, but she could do it with nothing other than her jeans zipper unzipped, and she was only 10! it was weird though... DurotarLord 19:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Some younger girls have urine streams that go more forward and would make this easier. Sometimes they struggle with getting the correct position on the toilet to get their stream to go down in instead of going up over the seat or through the open between the seat and bowl resulting in mess. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.95.242.74 (talk) 23:23, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Fixed small problems

I think this article need a re-write. I fixed the capitalization, and some spelling. Adam850 04:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Picture of female urinating

I think it would be fine to have a picture of a female urinating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.57.161.134 (talk) 01:21, 6 February 2008 (UTC) Agreed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.121.39.32 (talk) 22:24, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Two issues here the first is the most obvious does this picture follow Wikipidia Guidelines? This does show female genitals and is a the type of picture shown on urine fetish sites. Wikipidia is not a porn site. The second issue is based on the questionable assumption that this type of picture is ok. If you are going to show a graphic demonstration of female urination would it not be best to show the most common way females urinate i.e. sitting on the toilet? 02:49, 25 April 2006 (FHU)

Of course this image is inappropriate, I've removed it. I'm no prude, but c'mon this is an encyclopedia! If anyone can't see that this image is wrong here then they've been looking at too much porn too long. Furthermore, NO picture is required for this article of any sort - everybody in the world pisses, and knows exactly what it looks like. Who do you think reads this? Aliens? Molluscs? Graham 11:50, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I do not agree that everybody knows what it looks like. Many people are prudes and have only a vague idea of how people of the opposite gender does it. That said I agree that no picture is required as the article explains it well. 03:33 26 April 2006 (FHU)

I think there should be a picture. Not a porny picture but just a picture. Love, Ralph.

Why? Please be precise. Graham 10:52, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Some people might not know how it's done and would like to see it. , Ralph.

In order to show it correctly you have to show genitals and for females some form of bottom nudity and that would be porn like if not porn. Maybe a link to a diagram would do? 01:27, 1 May 2006 (FHU)

I just want a picture. -Unknown, assumed to be 'Ralph'.

Then please avail yourself of the many thousand that are freely available elsewhere on the internet. Wikipedia is not a porn site. Graham 05:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Many of them are not free. 74.135.75.172 17:31, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Regarding this issue from a random user's point of view, I see no reason why such a picture should be removed. There are plenty of "porn-like" pictures used in Wikipedia, depending on what you want to accuse as being porn. The defecation article shows a cow doing what cows tend to do, the articles about genitalia offer quite explicit imagery of the genitalia, etc. Being as genitalia are used in the act of urinating, it's not inappropriate in itself. Of course, Wikipedia should not use pictures that are specifically used for pornography, as the purpose is not to cater to individuals who are into that sort of thing, but to educate the public. You can easily say that everyone knows exactly what it looks like, but that's not true. I've known many individuals -- gentlemen well in their 60s, even -- who, due to social taboos and what not, hadn't the slightest idea how women urinate. If you are so against having pictures of human genitalia, please remove all articles related to sex and the human anatomy below the waist. Otherwise, try to be a little more mature.

While it isn't pornography since it does not include sex, it is fetishism involving sexual organs and fluids in their proximity. That 'people might not know what it looks like' is a pretty ridiculous concept. How hard is it to imagine the direction in which gravity sends liquid? 11:35, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Not ridiculous at all. Many married couples close the door when performing this act. I was an adult for several years before I knew that urine did not exit from the vigina. That being said a link is still the best course of action 12:52, 3 September (FHU)

Ya'll are conservative communists. --Kaizer13 00:29, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

If any picture is to be added to the article, it would be better to use one that shows the medical aspects of urination. A diagram of cut-away genitalia showing the path of the exiting urine, and any muscles involved would be a good diagram toinclude. If there is going to be a picture showing actual urtination in action, in order to minimise it's pornographicness, the picture should ideally show the genital area in action, and under no circumstances show the head or breasts of the urinator. Also, the urinators should not be tattooed, peirced, nor wearing any item(s) of clothing. 194.109.21.3 20:32, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

. . . That itself is nudeness. for minimum exposure, you can bleep the base to the middle of the reproductive organs so that 10-yr-olds who come here don't post messages like the above.

Picture taken out due to the semi pornographic nature of the picture (genitals thrust out). Also link to porn site taken out in female urination section 69.114.117.103 18:13, 20 October 2006 (UTC) (FHU)

it seems another picture of similar nature has been added, should it be removed? Smackdat 05:56, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

It will not matter because the pictures will be put back up anyway. If we are to use pictures it should be a set showing different methods such as a male urinating in the urinal, a toilet, a female using the regular method, hover etc. What would be better are good old boring textbook type diagrams. 69.114.117.103 18:02, 4 November 2006 (UTC) (FHU)

got it, i'll look for some diagrams or something to replace the current pictures 156.34.190.108 02:40, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

The fact that visual representation of urination has even become an issue here underlines the link between the inflexibility and irrationality of social taboo. Those who are determined to prevent this aspect of human experience from ever being represented by arrangements of coloured dots on a monitor would do well to ask themselves precisely what it is they think they're safeguarding. Surely the suppression of such innocent and fundamental data is incompatible with the notion of encyclopedic learning.

The Wikipedia entries for eating, diving, running and walking are all accompanied by pictures. So are the entries for death, nudity, penis and vulva. If Google Image searches on 'urination,' 'peeing,' and related terms retrieve porn sites in larger measure than anatomy or physiology sites, that suggests a systemic social inability to come to terms with this topic more than it suggests the illegitimacy of all attempts to investigate it.

I have to withdraw my objection to the pictures being displayed. The pictures are consistent with other Wikipedia pictures shown of genitals. I had not investigated these before making my objections. My objection was since this was a basic human anatomy article not an article about a pornographic subject I wanted diagrams which is consistent with the way printed encyclopedias have handled it. While I still wish that Wikipedia handled human anatomy the diagram way the reality is otherwise. In a articles about a pornographic subjects I do not have these objections. Indeed in the Urolagnia article I used a link to graphic video as a cite. 69.114.117.103 06:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC) (FHU)

• Ok. It's ok to post a picture of a female urinating on this article. That makes it fair enough to post a picture of an adolescent girl posing nude on the child pornography article. Colonel Marksman 03:57, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

It's more than okay to post a picture of a female urinating on this article! You know why? I'll tell you why: Because this article deserves it. --63.25.236.17 (talk) 21:46, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Posting that picture for one would be clearly illegal. And that picture would be a misrepresentation of child pornography. A better argument is that the pictures that have appeared here and in other articles primary purpose seems to be to titillate not educate. But as I said above at this point it we are trying to close the barn door after the horses have left 69.114.117.103 09:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC) (FHU)

The reason it would not be 'fair enough' to illustrate an article on child pornography with an actual photo of an underage subject is that any potential model would be deemed, by definition, too young to consent to such posing. This objection clearly does not apply to an adult model who consents to be photographed urinating, any more than it applies to an adult model who consents to be photographed for purposes of illustrating pornography.

Took out line in Clothing Designs

Took out the line that stating that some people like to urinate in their clothes often. This is is covered in the link to Urolagnia in the fetishes paragraph 69.114.117.103 05:48, 2 January 2007 (UTC) (FHU)

Bulbo-WHAT?

"Urine remaining in the urethra of the male is expelled by several contractions of the bulbospongiosus muscle." Um, on what planet? Urine remaining in the male's urethra is expelled by shaking the penis furiously. How could a muscle contraction shunt urine forward through a tube? This article seriously needs to mention "the shake" and the role it plays in male culture. It mentions piss shiver, after all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.72.21.221 (talk) 05:39, 17 February 2007 (UTC).

Male urination photo

I'm totally amazed that you folks have gone on at length about the pic of the urinating lady, but there's not one comment about the dude wearing a black glove to hold his penis. strange. very, very strange.Buymeapony 03:14, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Forcing Urine?

Not exactly important but does anyone know what muscles control the forcing of urine through the urethra, as in when someone is trying to urinate quickly, people have the ability to force the urine through,its just i have no idea how this would work through muscle contrac,tions nothing included about this in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hemansx (talk • contribs) 16:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC).

All i know is, when i try and force it to come out to fast it burns... DurotarLord 19:21, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

It's probably the abdominals, next time you force yourself to pee fast, put your hands on your stomach and you'll feel the abs contract. -DancexwithxmexXx

The notion that females are any more dependent than males on "gravity" to assist in urinating or in 'clearing' the urethra suggests that ignorance is no impediment to posting, as Sample #1 at the following link confirms: http://goldenpassions.com/protect/galls/s118192/pee-clips-1/pn.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.71.123.29 (talk) 17:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I understand and agree with what you were trying to say, but if you take a second look, you might notice that sentence is all screwed up. The porn clip does not confirm that ignorance is no impediment to posting, which is what the sentence technically says. --63.25.236.17 (talk) 21:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

(??) The sentence says exactly what it was meant to say, and it is correct. Anyone who thinks that women need 'gravity' to assist in urination is ignorant of the matter, yet precisely this 'gravity assist' claim is made here. Any clip that shows the claim to be false therefore confirms that the poster's ignorance was no impediment to his having advanced the claim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.229.28.30 (talk) 06:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I forgot to warn that the above link is to a 'porn' site; but those who are willing to set aside social taboo for a moment might conceivably learn something about the physiology of female urination that the contributors to this article either don't know or have greatly obscured. I'm not trying to take issue with, or assault, anyone's social sensibilities; I just don't think such sensibilities authorize us to talk nonsense about physiology. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.229.30.23 (talk) 17:54, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Same story here. This is supposed to be an example of 'female ejaculation,' but the model is obviously peeing... and easily defying gravity (warning: porn link): http://galleries.freecdgirls.com/galleries/gallery/angela-stone-squirting-masturbation.htm

And to furnish the final, conclusive proof: http://grunf13.adultbouncerhost.com/298/AB.htm?pid=35337&ptype=R (Note: whether one calls this 'porn' or not, it is nevertheless a unique kind of anthropological evidence. It is outrageous that relevant evidence should be ruled inadmissible--and people kept in ignorance to such an extent that so-called encyclopedic 'information' resources are reduced to spouting myths--solely because of social taboo.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.204.69 (talk) 15:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

GET RID OF THE MOVIE

the Reindeer urinating is disturbing!!! and there is no need for it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhart54comz (talk • contribs) 12:51, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I liked it (don't ask me why) can show me where it came from? 10:34 Nov 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.42.148 (talk) 02:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I created it. -- Bryan (talk|commons) 18:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Cow Urination

Do we need a picture of a cow taking a piss to make Wikipedia an excellent encylopedia. No we do not. Pictures should illustrate and add to understanding - every living creature knows what we are talking about when we mention urination - we all urinate. A diagram of how the urinary tract works:ok; cow pissing: irrelevant Kunchan 16:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

First of all, everybody needs to watch a cow piss once in a while.

Second of all, I'm not too sure I agree with you when you say, "[E]very living creature knows what we are talking about when we mention urination". I have been asking my cat Steven, for years now, to please only urinate in the litter box. But he simply refuses to listen. It's almost as if he doesn't speak English! Hmmph. I'd like to watch a cow piss on him. --63.25.236.17 (talk) 22:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

"Male Urination" section.

I'm editing the following paragraph:

When a man is done urinating, he will usually shake and/or gently squeeze his penis to expel the excess urine trapped in the opening of the foreskin or on the glans. This is known as "milking" the urethra. A common trick in expelling excess urine is gently pushing on the area behind the testicles (perineum). [citation needed]

First of all, shaking and squeezing the penis is not either known as "milking the urethra". It's known as "shaking and squeezing the penis".

Secondly, this "common trick" of pushing on the perineum? A BLATANT LIE. Maybe the contributor himself does this. Maybe he knows several other guys who have picked up the technique from him. Maybe one million men in this world of seven billion perform this trick. But it ain't common. It's way too much work for the average man.

My other concern in this section is the idiocy following the above-quoted paragraph. Do we really need to provide detailed instructions on how a clothed man can access his penis? I'd like to axe that whole paragraph, bur considering all the debate this article generates, I'll leave it for somebody else, or at least wait a while. --63.25.236.17 (talk) 22:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

There aren't even seven billion people in the world, let alone men. Idiot. 75.68.123.139 (talk) 04:42, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

What about the history of urination?

Roughly when did urination begin and how did it spread throughout the world to become such a popular bathroom passtime? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.56.116.215 (talk) 22:20, 19 March 2008 (UTC)