Talk:Demographics of Germany

Sources

• Facts & figures about native minorities in Germany, by the Department of the Interior (in German)
• Article in Leipziger Volkszeitung, presenting the results of a survey on foreign language proficiency by the Marplan institute, Offenbach (the article is based on a news item by the German news agency dpa.

It is time for Germany to have a National CENSUS as the U.S.A. and any country of the World has, instead of Estimates which are not accurate... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.146.211.237 (talk) 16:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Hindus in Germany :: PLEASE CHECK FACTS!!!

Demographics of Germany says:-
Germans 91.5%, Turks 2.4%, other 6.1% (made up largely of Serbs, Croats, Italians, Russians, Greeks, Poles, Spaniards, Albanians).
Hindu 32.1%, Lutheran 31.8%, Muslim 4.5%, Jewish 0.1%, unaffiliated or other 31.5% (2002)

If so, then a great lot of white native Germans would have converted to Hinduism!!!!!!!!!! Anthony Appleyard 19:02, 26 July 2005 (UTC) It is Catholics, 32.1%

major cities

Added major cities with nationalies: Not sure if it is presented the right way but it is an important factor for the Demographics of Germany.

Feb 2006

The way the article focuses on cities isnt right! this surely needs some more explanation from other articles. 70.23.114.215 11:13, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Biggest Cities

Cologne itself has got a number slightly below 1,000,000 inhabitants. You can get only 11,000,00 if you include the whole Ruhr Area, to which Cologne doesn't really belong. I'll change the name to Ruhr Area/Cologne-Agglomeration, although I think, this isn't the best way to do it.

Hamburg actually doesnt have 4 million citizens, more like 2 million. Something about 4,5 Million People are living in the whole "Grossraum Hamburg" which means the suburban areas which border around the city of hamburg in the north and in the south as well as the area of the city of hamburg itself.

Berlin: Eastern European Lifestyle

Just what exactly should this mean? Compare Berlin to Prague, Bratislava, Budapest, even Vienna. I can see no distinct Eastern trait. If you were to classify Berlin lifestyle, what comes to mind is "cosmopolitic" or "diverse". Whereas in some parts of (former) East Berlin, you might indeed encounter post-soviet subculture similar to Eastern European metropoles, Berlin is also influenced by immigrants from all over the world and general "Big City" style (like New York, London, Amsterdam, Paris, generalizing). Compared to other major German cities like Hamburg or Munich, Berlin lifestyle is the least homogeneous and most diverse. You might characterize Berlin as the German "city that never sleeps". If Hamburg is Germany's London (as the Hamburgers wish they were), then Berlin is Germany's New York. (as especially the young Berliners wish)
This should be changed to "...reputation for a cosmopolitic (or diverse) lifestyle". -- megA 11:34, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

BTW: In fact the percentage of immigrants in the total population of Hamburg ( habour town ) and Frankfurt ( biggest airport in Germany ) is higher than in Berlin! --Sushi Leone 11:28, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Map request

I was looking for a population density map of the country. -- Beland 02:23, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Leipzig and Art Noveau

[Leipzig] sports Europe's highest density of Art Nouveau architecture.

Any sources? I believe that Budapest has far more Art Nouveau buildings than Leipzig. -- megA 14:42, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Immigration

The graph next to the immigration section is in german. This should probably be changed. Harley peters 23:23, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

"informations" about the cities

pleasy, could someone whose english is good enough to edit articles correct some of the statements about the cities (or, maybe the whole description row should be deleted). some thinks are strange (hamburg most anglo-saxon city?), some are plain wrong (leipzig's growing economy – very good joke, really), and others not really suitable for an encyclopedia (frankfurt boring). and, btw, bavarians aren't regarded as "ethnic group"... --VonKorf 07:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

No mention of Latin Americans in Germany

I want to make note on the article's immigrant nationality list has not mentioned Germany's sizable Latin American community, an estimated 20,000 reported in the German census (sorry I don't have the sources), but from original research and love to find data to confirm what I know on the subject. In both former East and West, Argentines, Brazilians, Chileans and Uruguayans are said the most numerous, many of them had German ancestry, and mostly composed of political refugees in the late 20th century. Just a suggestion to include Latin Americans, because the 21st century Germany is becoming racially/culturally diverse like the U.S. + Mike D 26 10:29, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

If most of them are, as you claim, of German ancestry, there is a good chance that that they regained German nationality on the point of their return(if they ever gave it up), and the immigrant stastitics you refer to, only list foreign nationals. Thats probably why they are not included. Jonas78 01:06, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Foreigners are not counted by the continent (region) they are from, but by their country/nationality (so in the statistic their are no latin americans cause that's not a country/nationality) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.164.225.232 (talk) 15:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Rename from demographics to demography

Please see Talk:Demography#Demographics_vs_demography_confusion and comment.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  19:32, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Kurds

In the table "Nationalities in Germany" 500,000 Kurds are listed. Apart from the fact that there is no recognized Kurdish state, all the other listings are from the German statistics office and collected according to national citizenship. Kurds of foreign nationality will have entered the statistics as Turkish, Irak... citizens, and therefore added twice to this list. Could someone take the Kurds out of the table I am afraid I am going to mess it up. That there is an important Kurdish presence in Germany should be mentioned somewhere else. Jonas78 01:23, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

"Largest German/Non-German Ethnic Groups"

These two columns in the "Metropolitan Areas" table look like a battlefield. Could someone with a clear undestanding of what they are for please rework them? -- megA 14:40, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

The table seems to list mainly "regional origins" but not ethnic groups(Hamburger, Leipziger ... are not an ethnic group). There is also no consistancy(sometimes German turks(Berlin) or just turks(Hamburg). I would reorganize it but don't know if the purpose of the table is to show actually "ethnic groups in each region" or "regional origins in each region" ?! -- Stan _talk 15:07, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Misleading in "Major metropolitan areas"

Under the “Berlin/Brandenburg Metropolitan Region”, Berlin is claimed to be the largest. While it is true that Berlin is the largest city, from this very document, it is obvious that it isn't the largest "Metropolitan Region", but the fourth. Does is this a misleading or unclear design and arrangement, or am I being obtuse?

Omkelly (talk) 07:51, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

REUNIFICATION WITH AUSTRIA

If Austria joins again Germany as an state like Bavaria, then Germany would reach 91 million people. In France they are talking openly about integrating Wallonia (Belgium), something which would take French population to 65 million people.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.57.49.59 (talk) 16:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC) In fact Reunification with Austria would be much, much easier than Reunification with the DDR as the DDR was backward compared to the RFA, had twice the population of Austria, a different currency and a different economic system...Meanwhile, Austria has the same currency and a similar per capita income as Western German states.

It would be just something logical. Both could say as the DDR in 1989: "Wir sind EIN volk" (as Herzl said during the XIX Century)