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Thanks for letting me know. I understand that these are the ups and downs of being a Wikipedian. Those were probably the only articles I created and they were deleted. It won't stop me from editing though. :) Mfowler11(talk)
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Schools Barnstar
The Schools Barnstar
For fantastic work clearing school articles of copyright violations, I award Moonriddengirl the Schools Barnstar! Jh12 (talk) 21:08, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
First, I want to thank you for fixing the copyvio issue with the Publib page. Having said that, I would like to know why you removed some of the content with the excuse "Removing material with an inappropriate tone" since there was no tone at all? If you search the archives http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/ you'll notice that there was, in fact, a huge thread on Hydrox vs. Oreo cookies. I just don't understand why that was removed. :)
Hi. Wikipedia's styleguide calls for an "impersonal, formal and dispassionate" tone, here. The are problems with that regard in sentences such as "We have had such philosophical discussions such as "Which is better, Oreos or Hydrox cookies?" among many other quite entertaining debates. On Friday, you can expect that someone will post a Friday funny, and it usually extends past the weened into Monday or Tuesday." We do not write articles in the first person, and we don't label debates as "entertaining" unless we are attributing the perspective to a reliable source. (See also our neutrality policy.) The conversational style there is fine for article talk pages or boards on Wikipedia, but the articles themselves are meant to be written in the kind of encyclopedic style you'd expect to find in, say, Britannica. They don't always reach that level, but that's the goal. :) (Oh, also, we don't sign articles, only talk and board comments.) --Moonriddengirl(talk) 16:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the clarification. There certainly are way too many rules to abide by. ;) AllenTateRocks (talk) 17:52, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there's a bit of a learning curve. :) I hope that the "welcome" template I left on your page will be helpful. --Moonriddengirl(talk) 17:58, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Copyright violations: Waldorf School of San Diego
Thank you for pointing out the problems with Waldorf School of San Diego. I have created a new article for the school that doesn't take any wording from the school's web site. How can the article be replaced? Thanks, EPadmirateur (talk) 00:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your attention to that article. :) It's done. --Moonriddengirl(talk) 00:51, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Moonriddengirl, could you help me to delete an article I've created named "The Kuningan Place"? This because I did not have the permission from the owner of the project to publish it online.
Looking for your soonest reply. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fjahja (talk • contribs) 03:58, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. If you had been the only contributor, the article could be tagged {{db-g7}}, and it would be deleted. It has been edited by an IP address, though. This may also be you, but since its not connected to your account, your best bet may be to place a {{PROD}} on the article, explaining why the article does not belong. I would note in that prod that you are the article's creator and primary contributor. If anyone objects to the article being deleted, it won't be. You would have to pursue WP:AFD. But if nobody objects, the article will be deleted in five days.
Here's how you do the PROD:
Place the following code at the top of the page: {{subst:prod|concern}}
Replace the word "concern" with a brief reason that you've proposed deletion.
Make sure that you keep the {{subst:prod| part unchanged, or else an error will appear. Likewise, be sure that you've got the set of brackets at the end.
In your edit summary, announce that you've proposed deletion.
I hope that this helps. Please let me know if I can explain any of this further. --Moonriddengirl(talk) 10:52, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Boblins and Odd-Jobbers
There are several issues to consider here. First, the one that brought me to your page, is copyright. Since we do not require identity verification at account creation, we must have external proof of permission to duplicate copyrighted material here at Wikipedia.
Mcflipster: I work for the copyright holder, I think I pressed the wrong button releasing copyright of the logo and dont know how to revert it back to being copywritten. With regards to the text I inserted referencing the shows characters, this is correct information, and text created by the IP owner so should not be classed as plagiarism, and I believe is relevant when referencing the show. I am very daunted by this and am trying to not make mistakes.
Regarding a new Odd-Jobbers page, will I ever be able to create this. I want to do the same thing and note it's premis, insert character images and profiles and international broadcast details. How can I do this without having the page delelted again. I am clearly not getting this so plain english, no terminology, would be appreciated in your response. I have express permission to use all the copyright material, however, want it to be protected on Wikipedia.... HELP..... (Mcflipster (talk) 09:40, 24 September 2008 (UTC)).[reply]
Hi. I'm sorry for the language difficulties. I will try to honor your request and speak as plainly as I can. Of course, you know a more detailed response is above.
You must prove that you have permission to use this material. This is a matter of law, so we can't take your word for it. You can prove it by making a note at the website that the material is free for use under GFDL or in public domain. Or you can prove it by sending a legal release notice to the Wikimedia Foundation. If you'd like to use one of these two options, please let me know, and I will try to help you with the one you choose. Until we have proof of permission, you can't copy material from anywhere. If you do, it will be removed. We have some documents on Wikipedia that are meant to help with this. First, there is the copyright policy. In your case, you might especially want to read WP:IOWN.
I'm not sure what you mean by "want it to be protected on Wikipedia". If you mean that you want the material on Wikipedia to remain as you put it, that you can't do. Anyone can contribute to Wikipedia and probably will. If you mean that you want the material to be used only on Wikipedia, you can't do that, either. Wikipedia is licensed under GFDL, so anybody is allowed to copy anything we have. They can print it for free or charge for it. They can change it. The only thing they legally have to do is acknowledge who wrote it. If what you mean is that you don't want it deleted as a copyright violation, then, again, what you need to do is provide proof of permission.
Hello MRG. I've been following links and trying to find out how to report or ask for help with a possible copyvio. I find it all daunting, and, taking the easy way out, am dumping the problem in your lap. The copied material has been in the article for months (some of it possibly added 27 January this year, possibly by user Rishirajmd, diff, but I'm not sure I'm a competent detective). I'll watchlist this page. Here is the message I left at Sleep's Talk page:
http://www.luciddreaming.com/information/sleep-restoration.php has just been added, by IP user 68.81.232.6, as an "External link". That page carries the legend "Copyright 2008, All Rights Reserved" at the bottom. Huge chunks of that page are identical to the same chunks of the article.
I don't know how to find out whether luciddreaming.com copied and copyrighted text from Wikipedia, or Wikipedia has lifted text from that site in violation of copyright. Do you?
If you can help with this, an answer at Sleep's Talk page may be as appropriate as an answer here; your choice. --Hordaland (talk) 12:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be happy to take a look at it. :) I'll get back with you as soon as I've investigated. --Moonriddengirl(talk) 12:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! And you are almost incredibly quick!! --Hordaland (talk) 13:06, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
←No problem. I'd just finished what I was doing when your message popped up. :)
I feel very confident in saying that they've infringed on us.
First thing to do is to check the wayback machine. If it shows that the page predates us, then there's no further question. It doesn't. There's no archive, which likely means that the page is less than six months old. To verify that we had it first, though, we trace its evolution in the article. This is a whole lot easier with less active articles. :) But to me the deciding factor is the subsection on ontogenetic hypothesis of sleep. The term ontogenetic first entered our article in June of 2005, here. At that time, the relevant section said:
REM sleep (or Active Sleep) seems to be particularly important to the developing organism. Studies investigation the effects of REM sleep deprivation have shown that deprivation early in life can result in behavioral problems, permanent sleep disruption, decreased brain mass ( Mirmiran et al. ), and even result in an abnormal amount of neuronal cell death ( Morrissey et al. ). This is called the Ontogenetic hypothesis of REM sleep and suggests that the activity occurring during neonatal REM sleep is necessary for proper central nervous system development.
This gradually evolved. You can see its evolution by looking at these diffs: [1], [2], [3] and [4]. The text evolved towards the form used in the external site, which strongly lends to a belief that it started here.
Coupled with the lack of an archived version and the copyright date on the website, and I think we're good. --Moonriddengirl(talk) 13:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. I put an abbreviated response at the article's talk page, too. :) Thanks for bringing it up. Always good to be sure! --Moonriddengirl(talk) 13:25, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hrmph. In case you've missed it, the original IP editor (above) is (claiming to be) affiliated with luciddreaming.com and has apologized to us on Sleep's Talk page. The legend on the linked page has been changed to credit Wikipedia, though not unambiguously IMO. Thanks for your good work! --Hordaland (talk) 06:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Djemshid Khadjiyev (talk) 16:51, 24 September 2008 (UTC)Djemshid Khadjiyev (talk) 16:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)Dear Moonriddengirl, thanks a lot for your help and contribution for Nohur page. I would really appreciate if a change to the page is done with prior notification, since there are several incorrect facts I found on the page e.g. Nohur area in located in Ahal velayat -province)- but not in Ashgabat region, and etc.[reply]
appreciate your help and looking forward for your contributions, Djemshid
my skype name is djemshid.khadjiyev
Djemshid Khadjiyev (talk) 16:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)Dear Moonriddengirl, thanks a lot for your help and contribution for Nohur page. I would really appreciate if a change to the page is done with prior notification, since there are several incorrect facts I found on the page e.g. Nohur area in located in Ahal velayat -province)- but not in Ashgabat region, and etc.
appreciate your help and looking forward for your contributions, Djemshid
my skype djemshid.khadjiyev
RE; Luciddreaming.com External Link / Topic: Sleep
We just realized our content writer took excerpts from Wikipedia and did not give credit. We're in the process of finding a new content writer and providing well researched, unique content for sleep sections discussed. We're very dissapointed to discover that our services were not rendered properly and that our directions weren't followed. Until then we've added 'Copyright (C) 2000,2001,2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 51 Franklin St, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA. Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia' to the bottem of content pages where we feel excerpts were taken from context. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.81.232.6 (talk) 07:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
City Treasurer of Philadelphia
Sorry on missing the point about text that may be copyrighted and not simply public domain information which I added to. I am a new contributor and still learning. What would be a concrete example(s) of what could be added to this article that would enhance it without violation. I thought the Office holders would have been okay, but maybe not.(Also hope I figure out how to pick up this talk page if you respond. John Jr. (talk) 20:20, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Material can be rewritten, as long as it doesn't follow closely enough on the website to create a "derivative work". The list of office holders should be fine to restore the article, although when I narrowed the article to the contribution of the user who tagged the violation, it didn't seem to be essential. Feel free to recreate that, if you'd like, but please don't wikilink individuals who may not meet notability guidelines. It's probably better just to wikilink the ones who have or are likely to have articles, like Richardson Dilworth. I'll make a note of this response at your talk page, but as a registered user, you have access to a "watchlist" that allows you to watch any page you like. :) There's a tap at the top of each page that you may toggle to watch or unwatch. When you check your watchlist (after your username at the top of the page), it will show the last change to that page, if it has been made within a defined time. You can see Help:Watching pages for more on this, as I'm probably not explaining it very well. To me, the technical stuff is just like magic. :) --Moonriddengirl(talk) 23:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A personal matter
Dear moonridden girl:
Sorry to ask you about something that is not entirely related to Wikipedia but i trust you and is something delicate.
I found a girl that i like, we have hobbies in common and get along pretty good, but there`s a problem, SHE`S A TROLL!!!!, she has been vandalizing for a while now, now acording to the wikipediholic test, i should hit her repeatedly with a Baseball bat, but i like her, what should i do? Zidane tribal (talk) 03:32, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I see that back on April 2008 you were dealing with a user that had a user page that lookedlike an article, and insisted on moving it from one user to other. I have nominated both her pages for deletion, you might leave on Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Super Baby Princess personal page a comment on how you dealt with her. --Enric Naval (talk) 05:29, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
He's being very uncooperative and pushy about his editing, I saw your note on his user page and I figured you should know about it. Zazaban (talk) 23:19, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. You may wish to tell the blocking admin this. He has changed his name and is now to be found at User:Caulde. --Moonriddengirl(talk) 23:43, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Abd
I hope you don't mind, MoonG. I brought the things you'd said about AfD into a discussion. I think it's all very interesting. Um, at User talk:Abd#Minor point. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 01:25, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
documenting-please be patient with me
I haven't been on Wikipedia for two days, the accusation of plagiarism was killing me and I couldn't sleep. I found the e-mail from Gregg Sablic where we have permission to use his site, from the summer of 2006. Please don't continue to assume bad faith on me, I can't be angry with you, I'd look suspiciously at me too, but it's simply not true. I have asked the Scouting Project admins to help me to get this permission documented once and for all. I know I've been testy, and sometimes ugly. The two-day Wikibreak has helped, but the truth is I am really doing good things and don't want to leave Wikipedia or be forced to. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 08:47, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your note. I've replied at your talk page. Which I'm sure you'll see. But I don't want to run across this two years from now and wonder why I never answered. :) --Moonriddengirl(talk) 11:45, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
