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Re:VG Barnstar

Thank you for the barnstar. It's always nice receiving one and it is much appreciated. Thank you. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 22:54, 2 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Happy Independence Day!

As you are a nice Wikipedian, I just wanted to wish you a happy Independence Day! And if you are not an American, then have a happy day and a wonderful weekend anyway! :) Your friend and colleague, --Happy Independence Day! Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 03:45, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

King Arthur & the Knights of Justice GAN

I have fixed the issues for the GAN, please take a look when you have the time. Thanks! Kariteh (talk) 08:42, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Aerith

Well, if that's the case then go ahead and unhide it. I originally tried to add the info for {{cite web}}, but the link and gametrailers website would only return an error. Based on that and the incomplete reference info, I figured it'd best to hide it until it could be completed and verified. If you could add the missing info it would be much appreciated. The only thing it's missing is the title and accessdate. If the date it was posted is available that would help too. Thanks for the heads up. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 15:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Thanks for finishing that it up. In regard to the citation template, I think either one is fine. If there's specific information that needs to be cited like time a specific scene occurs or an isbn, then I'd use cite video. But since it's a short web video embedded on a webpage, I normally use cite web. But either one can convey the appropriate information. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 15:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Re: Fina Fantasy VII AC

Hmm... I'm not sure. I'd say some of those would be best to avoid, but others look like they should be OK; like the interviews. I've been meaning to try to hunt down some of the issue information. Like the Nomura interviews on those fan sites. The proper/safe thing to do would be to cite the magazine, and provide the fansite link as a translation. But few people seem to know which issue these come from, just that it's the latest issue. I guess try contacting the website and see if they can provide the information.

In regard to RS, it has been getting tighter over time. The unfortunately thing about it is the amount of grey area in the description and other policies. I do wish more editors would try to talk things out more to come to a real resolution. Not taking the time to communicate and explain things normally leads to edit warring, arguments, and hostility. That's one reason I stopped posting on WT:VG, the amount of bickering that takes places there is more than I care to deal with. I guess see if you can start a discussion on the talk pages. Not sure what else to do. :-\ (Guyinblack25 ^talk 17:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Nah, it's no bother man. I just wish I had more time to try and address some of this stuff. I'd like to get back to pushing articles to FA and GA. I guess we just do what we can for now. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 18:18, 3 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Silver Star Story Complete GA review

I've made the requested changes to the article. You can take a look at them when you have a chance. Thanks! Nall (talk) 04:24, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Final Fantasy VII

Looks good to me, although to sum up the entirety of development you might want to compress the N64->PlayStation switch and add a sentence or two about the other topics covered in development. It's a shame most video game articles don't have comprehensive leads, considering the WP:LEAD is supposed to sum up the entire article... Cheers, Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 15:59, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Final Fantasy VIII

Hi there. I'm writing to give you my rationale as to why I'm undoing your edit under the reason of "too detailed." I have corrected and/or given more detail to a noticeable amount of ambiguity and errors in the article that I have deemed necessary. For instance under 'Story', in the current revision that you have reverted to, there is an obvious error in "President Laguna apologizes for the incident and announces Dr. Odine's plan to let Ultimecia possess Rinoa and use Ellone's power to compress time, as it would allow Squall's group to confront Ultimecia in person." From your 'user page' I understand that you have indeed "completed" Final Fantasy VIII. That is why you should be aware that Ellone in fact, cannot "compress time", for it is the ability of Ultimecia. Ellone, rather, can only send the consciousness of individuals into the past, for instance, Squall's experience of Laguna's past. This is why you should notice that it is necessary to bring Ultimecia into discussion and which is why I included a short description of the Time Compression process (believe me, that is short compared to the full details of Time Compression).

Another error I've spotted: "A conclusive battle with Edea forces Ultimecia to transfer her powers to Rinoa; Edea survives, but Rinoa enters a coma. Squall becomes obsessed with waking her and seeks the help of Dr. Odine". It wasn't Squall who was seeking Dr. Odine, but rather it was Edea, who sought his aid to rid of her sorceress powers. Squall wanted to travel to Esthar in order to find Ellone (he learned this while on the white SeeD vessel) as he believed that she can remedy the situation. I've included a character reference (quote) in my revision as well.

Also, this character quote reference, "There iz only only one way to defeat Ultimecia." seems to have been taken from [1]. Of all other game scripts I have checked, they have only a single "only", which is why I have deleted the duplicate command. The last "Story" revision I will be detailing to you is "After the team escapes, Galbadian missiles destroy Trabia Garden." While each separate part of the sentence is true, the Galbadian missiles were only seen fired from the missile base; Trabia Garden was not yet hit (considering the distance between the Galbadian Army Base to Garden and Trabia, Trabia was hit much later than "after the party escapes").

Under junction, I have corrected "...and usable items. Spells are then stocked on characters as quantified inventory (up to 100 at a time) and are consumed one by one when used." because "usable items" implies that items that can be used (ie. potions, phoenix downs, tents) are magic spells. I have added "through refining" for clarification. On a similar note, "(up to 100 at a time)" implies no restrictions on the amount of distinct spells that each character can carry. I included necessary information to correct this.

As you can see, my revision was not solely on the grounds of detailing, but rather correctly several blatant mistakes in the article. I hope this rationale is satisfactory. PS: Thanks for the welcoming on my talk page. --Sokari (talk) 16:25, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for providing constructive commentary for your edits. I have only played the game once, so I'm not too familiar with it. The reason I reverted you is that the article is an FA, and because of that, the story and gameplay sections can't be overly detailed with trivial information. If this happens, it will be sent to WP:FAR, and there goes another Final Fantasy FA. However, after reading your response, I realise you were correct. But please keep in mind as a future reference that gaming articles can't include too much in-universe-information. Try to only include the most important factors, and leave out the unnecessary stuff. Thanks. The Prince (talk) 16:58, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Xnoegars

I'd forgotten to unwatch Almathea's talk page, so noticed your request about this article. I've tagged it for speedy deletion. In case you didn't know, you can find the criteria for speedy deletions at WP:CSD. --Ged UK (talk) 15:42, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks. I really need to read through all those WP guidelines at some stage. Just can't seem to find the time or the motivation. The Prince (talk) 15:45, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to explain my rationale at Talk:Xnoegars—let's discuss it there instead of scattering it across three talk pages. :)
Cheers, Amalthea^Talk 15:54, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another image request

Hey Prince. Is it possible to get me a gameplay image for Super Mario Strikers, please? If not, then that's fine. Ashnard _Talk ^Contribs 13:46, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I added one. Does it look alright? The Prince (talk) 15:32, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great. Thanks:-). Ashnard _Talk ^Contribs 15:56, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Final Fantasy VII to GA

Ah, it's nice to see someone else finally finding interest in working on the article. I've been trying to get it to GA for over a month now, so any help I can get is nice. You've done some great work on the article so far! Gary King (talk) 02:31, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the kind words. It's ridiculous that one of the greatest games ever was in such a poor state. Anyway, I feel the article is very close to GA, and it only needs another copy edit, and some additional sources. The Prince (talk) 11:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's ridiculous that the greatest game ever was in such a poor state. Fixed. Oh well, it would have been good for me as a reviewer if the article would only have had some wording and reference issues, but a little more work is obviously needed. If you look closely at the text you find some cloudy statements in every paragraph. --Novil Ariandis (talk) 20:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's a shame that the article is so damn long... Anyway, you're right about the fact that it's not greatly written; unfortunately I'm not any good at spotting prose issues. But it's weird though, as the article used to be an FA. Maybe it's not even GA worthy. The Prince (talk) 13:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have started a discussion over at the ocarina of time page over GameRankings

I have addressed your problems and issued my thoughts on the matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HeaveTheClay (talk • contribs) 17:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have condensed the information having read your concerns. Hopefully this is more appropriate. There is a sentence about both the universal commercial and critical success. Following that, there is the sales data but no mention of it's reception. I hope you can see why I'm adamant about including this.--HeaveTheClay (talk) 19:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that looks a lot better. The Prince (talk) 21:26, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notice

Re: Final Fantasy VII (2)

Hey, you did some great work on the article – it was quite the monster to tackle! Now that that's done, yeah, I'll get started on FFXIII. And yeah, I think we should remove the two extra games from the topic. Gary King (talk) 00:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You wanna list some of the problems with the article somewhere? It isn't in that bad shape, so it shouldn't take us too long to clean it up. I think the biggest problem is the original research in the article; we have to weed those out. Gary King (talk) 15:12, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is there anywhere we can point to that's official and actually shows that only the 13 games that we have in the topic make up an official series? We had this problem with The Legend of Zelda titles. Gary King (talk) 17:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alright if you find one, then let me know. Preferably more than one so we have a few that agree with each other. Gary King (talk) 18:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll ask around. If you take a look at the Zelda link I gave above, you'll see what could potentially happen if we nominate this topic. Gary King (talk) 21:11, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good job

		The VG Barnstar
		For your regular edits to improve numerous video game articles and push them up the quality scale. And most recently, for getting a former Featured article, Final Fantasy VII, up to GA. Your efforts do not go unnoticed and are greatly appreciated. Please keep up the good work. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 14:23, 10 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Thank you very much, Guy. It's always nice receiving a barnstar, especially from such an accomplished editor. The Prince (talk) 14:52, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yuna

Sorry, was removing edit summary vandalism and forgot to restore. Back now. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Final Fantasy (video game) was just delisted

Final Fantasy (video game) was just delisted from GA. We need to work on it. Gary King (talk) 17:32, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. I'll see what I can do. The Prince (talk) 18:50, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've cleaned it up quite a bit. There's a lot of information in these old video game articles that are a bit too detailed for a general encyclopedia; a lot of stuff can be cut, and some information probably do not even have references available. Gary King (talk) 18:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you created Development history of the Final Fantasy series. To be quite honest, I don't really think it's necessary. If we can just trim out all the excessive details of the re-releases, I believe it can fit nicely into the article. The section would probably have to be renamed "Re-releases" or something similar, as it doesn't mention any development info. The Prince (talk) 19:12, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well if you want to, feel free to do so. It can perhaps be useful to have the article down the road, though, similar to something like Development history of The Elder Scrolls series or something. Gary King (talk) 19:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, when I was working on FF7, I thought about splitting the development to a standalone article, so it may come in handy. Are you planning on expanding it? The Prince (talk) 19:23, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]