Talk:Insomnia
US Bias
I've removed this from the introductory copy: According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, approximately 60 million Americans each year suffer from insomnia. Insomnia tends to increase with age and affects about 40 percent of women and 30 percent of men [1].
It seems to presuppose that this entry is disussing insomnia in America alone, rather than in general terms. Perhaps it can be reintegrated if someone can find pertinent statistics from other countries that be included in a sub-section.
Fatal insomnia
Sorry if this sounds stupid, but couldn’t a person help to cure fatal familial insomnia by getting nightly injections of a sedative?- EKN
Primary Insomnia
The article should address all forms of insomnia in a single location. I added a link to the June 2005 (August 2005 final report) of the NIH state of the science consensus report on manifestations and management of chronic insomnia. The report recognizes the term "co-morbid insomnia" rather than secondary insomnia. I also added a link to a nicely written entry from the National Sleep Foundation (U.S.) on insomnia. ~~Les Schmaltz~~
Fixed wording
I changed the double 'such as' statements which were awkward, if not grammatically incorrect.
Reverted useful info on using meditation to alleviate this problem
Someone removed the earlier section on the use of metta meditation to alleviate this problem, claiming: "Removed Occult Buddhist meditation advertising from middle of medical article."
Some points:
1) I have now included a VERIFIABLE PUBLISHED SOURCE for the information in this section.
2) Wikipedia (WP) is not a 'medical' encyclopaedia, or even a 'scientific' one - it is a compendium of human knowledge. Not all the information has to be formally scientific.
3) Which leads to the most important point: people often seek out WP because it provides just that kind of 'commonsense', USEFUL knowledge that isn't provided in formal encyclopaedias because such knowledge is regarded as too informal and perhaps even 'unscientific'. Yet it is still useful. And that is my main point in including this info: it is USEFUL for people. The person who cut the section out should think for a moment and realise that people actually do seek out articles like this one for help in relieving these kinds of things, including, but also beyond, their doctors' STANDARD, FORMAL advice. If they want exclusively MEDICAL, or SCIENTIFIC information, there are plenty of other sources. Wikipedia is an OPEN, BROAD compendium of ALL the human knowledge that has a reasonable amount of agreement as to it's validity and relevance. THAT is is it's strength. Otherwise, why bother? To read, or to write.
4) Buddhism is not 'occult'! This person clearly demonstrates not only their prejudice here, but also their ignorance. It's obvious from what they've written that they need to examine their real INTENTIONS in changing the page. Were they based on a desire to help other people by providing accurate, relevant and useful information - or was it something closer to prejudice, arrogance and possibly even a bit of enmity?
5) The section did not attempt to 'advertise' anything. For a start, it's author (myself) doesn't belong to any religious tradition, even though he has studied many. Simply reading the text makes this quite clear.
6) Returning finally to the point about people using WP as a source of the broader, less formal, more commonsense/everyday, more USEFUL knowledge, the reason I included this information is because I personally, and many others, have EXPERIENCED this technique to be actually useful, in the actual world! I've included it to HELP and INFORM people in the REAL WORLD, based on ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE. If you have proof that it DOESN'T WORK, provide it and I will happily remove it. Until then, the information is sufficiently agreed-upon, mainstream and useful to be included in this common-person's shared compendium of knowledge, Wikipedia.
Seeking insomniacs
Hey I am doing a project on insomnia, it really has to be good. I need an insomniacs point of view on it , If someone could help me I be very apprciative. :)
I think you should do your own research without asking random people on forums. I find that rude when there is information all over the internet.
"Pay no attention to worries, fears and perhaps phobias. Such concerns are likely to prevent the mind from resting and may be exaggerated. It may help to accept that these problems will have wait until tomorrow before being dealt with." I changed this a bit because it is stupid to suggest that a person simply pays no attention to things which are obviously bothering them when they are trying to get to sleep. I added a suggestion to write down any worries or plans that the insomniac is thinking about, where it can be out of the mind, and revisited later if need be. This will help with anxiety. PS. Anjela was here!!!
merge
Found a stub article that may have info to merge here, see links. xaosflux Talk/CVU 02:06, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Insomnia Cure (Trial) , Flinders University, Australia
"So far, 17 people have been through the trial. Preliminary results show most of them have vastly improved sleep following the treatment. It’s early days, but Leon hopes this could be a genuine breakthrough."
"Imagine being desperate enough to sign up for this. For 24 hours you’re not allowed to sleep for more than 4 minutes at a time. Every time you do fall asleep you’re woken up, but this tortuous sleep therapy could be the cure for chronic insomnia."
"Far from feeling tortured says Leon, insomniacs can actually find this experience exhilarating. For the first time, they realise they can learn to fall asleep. At the beginning of the trial, Lynn was taking more than 20 minutes to fall asleep. Now she’s taking just a few minutes."
See: http://www.abc.net.au/ra/innovations/stories/s925385.htm
This information could be useful...
~~JohnI~~
Editor.../?
Any reason why my addition on Psychophysiological Insomnia was deleted? An explanation would be very helpful to me.
Sleep Onset Awareness Prevention Paradox
Did you receive the comment?
My point was that sleep is a trick, a sort of paradox, in that in order to fall asleep, you cannot be aware that you're falling asleep as you're falling asleep.
If you doubt this, try to fall asleep while staying aware that you're falling asleep, or stay aware of swallowing the saliva in your mouth, or of your breathing depth and rate. You'll never get to sleep with this torture. I would guarantee it. RB Feb 06
"Alleviating insomnia" section
I've placed a cleanup tag on this section because it is written in such a way as to give advice to the reader. This is unacceptable for two reasons: it is not encyclopedic in tone, and all the advice is unverified. The information about the techniques for alleviating insomnia seems solid, but the entire section needs to be rewritten so it is clear that the article is describing advice commonly given by therapists and other authorities (with citations whenever practical), not giving the advice itself. (Remember that Wikipedia does not advance opinions, even opinions as simple as "People who want to sleep better should avoid caffeine.") I plan to do such a rewrite myself, but if anyone else would like to get started (or further discuss the issue), please feel free. –Sommers (Talk) 03:28, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- It appears I never made the edit adding the tag in question. I guess it got lost before I hit the "Save page" button. Anyway, it's there now. –Sommers (Talk) 17:36, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Added treatments + have a question
I just added some antidepressants and an atypical antipsychotic to the list of treatments.. + The article says that benzodiazapines are the most commonly prescribed medications for insomnia, and I'm wondering if this is talking about situational insomnia or chronic insomnia, and whether this is still true. Anybody? It would also be nice to know the differences between the treatment of chronic and temporary insomnia..and whether there is a difference in treatment for different forms of insomnia.. (for example, is treatment for insomnia caused by anxiety different from treatment for insomnia caused by bipolar disorder...) 216.106.49.131 19:28, 2 May 2006 (UTC)