Talk:Daria
Trent Lane and Trent Reznor
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if i'm not entirely mistaken, the character Trent Lane was actually patterned (unofficially) after Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails fame. their faces, voices, and attitudes almost match, and MTV had Nine Inch Nails music videos in high rotation around the time Daria was in syndication (late 1997). if that's not proof enough, check out the following pics; the first is Trent Lane (standard), next is Trent Lane as done by a fan (fanart), and lastly we have Trent Reznor. compare these and judge for yourself (those eyes O.O !).
Hey, this is an encyclopedia, y'know!
Come on everybody, this is an encyclopedia. Whilst Daria is my favourite TV show too, I can't help but feel that the W. article on the subject far too closely resembles a fansite. I really feel it needs to be tightened-up, given a more formal tone and have all the character's individual articles merged into the main Daria one. I mean, what would Daria say to a great international project like this being turned into a TV archive?
- I think the character articles are fine just where they are. We don't want to have the entries get too long, splitting it up like this is good. james_anatidae 10:12, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
- The point I was trying to make is that if people are really interested in that level of detail, then they would be able to see the same information - if not more of it - by clicking on one of the external links given in this article. The point of the Daria entry is to give a basic overview of all aspects of the show in a formal manner and without too much focus on the more trivial aspects. It is possible to give too much info' in this kind of context. Plus merging the character articles with the main one would mean that casual readers are likely to learn more about them, since they probably wouldn't click on each character's W-link.
- But the same could be said of several other television shows that have articles on this wiki. I don't recall real limits on what can listed here (unless it belongs at one of the other wikis, wikiquote, etc.). Look at these two examples I was able to find in less than five minutes: Category:Simpsons characters, List of characters from Family Guy. Why pick on Daria when these both have more content? You talk about going to fan sites, but those tend to be very fluid, being created and disappearing quite often. Wikipedia is supposed to be permanent. I say leave it alone and let it grow naturally. Anyway, if we merge the character articles, won't that be "too much info" in the main one? james_anatidae 01:11, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
- The point I was trying to make is that if people are really interested in that level of detail, then they would be able to see the same information - if not more of it - by clicking on one of the external links given in this article. The point of the Daria entry is to give a basic overview of all aspects of the show in a formal manner and without too much focus on the more trivial aspects. It is possible to give too much info' in this kind of context. Plus merging the character articles with the main one would mean that casual readers are likely to learn more about them, since they probably wouldn't click on each character's W-link.
- Not to mention the article on Harry Potter. This has the potential to be the most extensive encyclopedia in the world. What's wrong with articles on characters?
If you want, I'll merge them myself and then post the results here. Then those that care enough can decide. Aaron Jethro
- Please do, this entry reeks of fancruft. It needs to have its language cleaned up, and the individual character pages should either be merged into a daria_characters page or deleted altogether.
Censorship?
Most of the Censorship part of this article is not grounded in reality and simply reflects the opinons of the author. First, as of March, there were significant noises towards releasing Daria as a box set. Second, the "official" reason given by MTV was a lack of consumer demand (which is likely considering Daria's audience was loyal but small). Thirdly, another highly probable reason for MTV's decision not to produce the DVD is the high cost of obtaining the rights to much of the music found in the series (in fact, it was high enough that MTV replaced all the copyrighted music in the DVD movies with generic music). See here: [1] and here: [[2]]
Incredible POV & Inane Conspiracy Theories
From the article: "This conflict of interest may explain why the mainstream media is uncomfortable with a show such as Daria, which is savagely critical of its goals and method of achieving them." Whoa, someone needs to take off the tinfoil cap. Because Daria showed one episode mocking the business world, there is an entire conspiracy to prevent the release of an uncensored Daria DVD? Get over yourself! Daria, an original production of a Viacom channel, is the mainstream media! The mainstream media loves faux-rebellion, as long as it sells. That's the bottom line. Yeah, I'm sure the corporate world is really scared of an animated series about high school kids that aired on the most corporate channel in the world, MTV. Look, The Simpsons & South Park make similar "anti-business" statements constantly. It's the profit that matters. Daria hasn't seen uncensored DVD release simply because they're not sure about its profitability.
Re: Censorship?/Incredible POV & Inane Conspiracy Theories
Points well taken, objectionable segment deleted, some material about the censoring of the show moved to an appropriate place earlier in the article.
Author of "Incredible POV & Inane Conspiracy Theories," please refer to Wikipedia:Etiquette.
Happy thanksgiving!
RudolfRadna 23 November, 2005 4:18 (UTC)
Lane Family section fragmented
Seems rather random to put the Lanes who only appeared occasionally in the Other section rather than the Lane Family section. It seems more natural to inculde them in the Lane Family section with a note of their irregular appearences. I'm going to go ahead and be bold and change this, if anyone feels strongly about it I'm open to different opinions. Grimm 17:55, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Specific Citings of Pop Culture Refs
Could someone reword the opening paragraph of this section? I think the point about the caricatures in the closing credits is a really good point, but I think it could be articulated better. Satchfan 02:56, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
External Links removed
I have removed a bunch of links from the External Links section that do not comply with Wikipedia's policy on External links (see External_links). Fan sites, forums, and blogs are not allowed under the External Links policy. Please do not replace them.
- I think it's a bad idea not to link to Outpost Daria or PPMB. They are the two major sites related to the show. -Jonathan D. Parshall 11:36, 4 July 2006 (UTC)