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Onfireministries

You have recently created the article Onfireministries. This was deleted in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policies. Please do not re-create the article: if you disagree with the article's deletion, you may ask for a review at Wikipedia:Deletion review. --Onorem 13:03, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Rencin,

I wasn't actually the one who deleted the article, but I did tag it for deletion.

I've found out since then that articles that have been speedily deleted shouldn't be tagged with {db-repost}.

I would recommend that you recreate the article again, but make sure to explain (on the article's talk page) why your organization should have a page.

If someone tags it for deletion again, send it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. That way, there can be some discussion about why your page should be on Wikipedia.

I'm fairly new to Wikipedia, so I can't guarantee that the advice I'm giving you is correct...but it's worth a try. Good luck to you.

--Onorem 11:09, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hey ,houldn't

Thanks a ton for the information that you gave. I do know that some of them may have done it thinking it is personal pages. So need not worry I just asked you to know why they keep doing like that. Our's is an organization that works with young people in helping them know good morals and God Himself. Many of our viewers are eargly searching for our website. Since it is under another banner we thought we might as well post an article here so that people can get in touch with us through this page .

Thanks a lot for the info, we are praying for you. God bless you brother!

Rencin Matthew


Your Occupation?

What is your occupation and what is it that you have got to do with ON FIRE? Are you a part of them too or just another person who is part of wikipedia? Do you really have any another relation with any other organizations too?

Hello friend!! My occupation is nothing but to share the word of God. I have got nothing to do with ON FIRE because it is not my organization, but I do confess that I am part of that organization too and part of wikipedia. I may or may have but right now I am with ON FIRE and I think that will do for you. rencin24 13:05, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


My question

My question is wether are you employed only in this organization alon or do you work some where else too? I f so where is that, Just to know you more? Just consider me as friend. This is Nick.

Hey Nick, I am currently working in an MNC.I Really appreciate you for being straight forward and thanks for putting in your name. I work for General Electrical here in INDIA which is famously known as GE. I am visa processor. I process visa for the employees to travell to USA and UK.


Thanks

hi rencin sheryl here

Thanks Sherly for just saying hi in this forum. Will suerly keep praying for you. Rencin Matthewrencin24 06:24, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


What happened to the site?

Hey what happened to the website that was here or the webpage? I am not able to find it? Please do direct me to the current page you have created. Thanks. Nick.

Pentecostal Mission

The best way forward is to write an original article, supported with references to both your book and the paper that the original article was copied from. Write it in your own words. But remember Wikipedia policies - write it in a way that is neutral. Wikipedia cannot assert that something is true, it needs to report on it - think about writing the article as if it were written by an outsider, one who neither follows the church, nor is hostile to it. I'll try to help if I have time. Guettarda 14:19, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I just got news of a death in the family, so I probably won't be around for a while. You should contact User:Pjacobi, he should be able to figure out what to do next. Guettarda 13:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:.onfire.1.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:.onfire.1.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Nv8200p talk 18:49, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Hey Help Needed

[1]. This page is having some kind of an abuse. Thanks. Nick.


Reply from my talk page

Hi Rencin.

You asked me to look, so I did. What I see is you vandalizing a talk page by removing any comments you disagree with. If you're referring to the article and not the talk page, I don't see where anyone has made inappropriate edits. Is there a specific edit you disagree with, or do you just not like people questioning TPM on the talk page? --Onorem 11:04, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The talk page is there so that people can have discussions about the article. It is an appropriate place to voice concerns about the credibility of things mentioned in the article. I don't know -anything- about the topic you're discussing there and wouldn't be qualified to comment, but to me it looked like "Pastor Alvin" raised a few potentially valid questions which were erased instead of addressed. People are going to make changes to pages you spend time on, and it can be frustrating to see something you've worked hard on changed, but there is no ownership of articles. It's there for everyone to contribute to. --Onorem 13:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


September 27

Hello Rencin,

I've noticed you're helping out by adding {stub} and {cleanup} tags.

A couple of notes for stubs:

  • When adding stubs, please check to see that the page doesn't have a more specific stub tag already.
  • It's preferred that specific stubs from this list are used to help keep things more organized.
  • The {stub} should be added to the very bottom of the page.
  • Talk pages should never be tagged as stubs.

As for the {cleanup} tags...I did remove a couple of them. The article for Island City, Oregon looks very similar to most articles for small towns in the US, and I'm not sure which part of My Early Burglary Years you thought needed to be cleaned up. There's not a lot of information there, but it seems to be presented well.

Thanks for taking an active part in keeping Wikipedia clean and organized. --Onorem 11:52, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Finding the articles that should be tagged for deletion is the tough part. I regularly check for articles with N next to them on the 'Recent changes' link that should be under 'navigation' on the left side of your screen. Those are newly created articles, which I think are the easiest to check. I'll also usually check the 'User contributions' of users that have created nonsense articles or vandalized in some other way.

I'm not sure what you mean by "how do I become a wikipedia User". You're already a wikipedia user. --Onorem 12:26, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

pages for chief pastors

Hi Rencin,

It would be difficult to create articles for each of the chief pastor. You should have enough material about each person. Secondly, it would have to meet wikipedia rules too. You may try if you chose to. I was just thinking of putting a list of all prior chief pastors on "TPM" article.--Spm2006 17:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have rarely seen such chutzpah even on the New Page Patrol. What you did is nothing but vandalism. - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A friendly word

Hi Rencin. You're clearly new round here and part of the joy of being new is making mistakes. You've made a few here...

    1. tagging a well-grounded article for deletion
    2. tagging it for "speedy" deletion compounded the error
    3. you've then left a message on czrussian's talk page accusing him of being uncivil, when in my opinion he wasn't really (if in the cold light of day you disagree with me, strike this as a mistake by you)
    4. you've then deleted czrussian's warning message from your own talk page, which you're not supposed to do (someone else can, but you can't do it yourself)

Unfortunately for you, the worst thing about all of this is actually pure bad luck and not your fault - the editor you've accused (incorrectly IMHO) of being uncivil is in the middle of a sensitive nomination for becoming an admin again and his civility or lack of it is rather critical.

May I suggest... if, now things have calmed down, you agree with me on all of the above points, please go to czrussian's talk page and erase your comment, along with an edit summary that says something along the lines of you changing your mind and he wasn't uncivil. I'm sure that if you do this, czrussian will return the favour and return here and blank the warning. After all, you are a newbie.

I hope you take this in the genuine spirit in which it is intended. It's not so long since I was a newbie. --Dweller 10:20, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Picture yourself in the shoes of PastFinder (talk · contribs). He's brand new, and has written a short article. Not two minutes later another user comes along and slaps a speedy deletion tag on the article without articulating any reason whatsoever. How would that make you feel? Not only that, I for one don't think the article merits deletion at all, neither speedy nor any other kind. Deleting other people's work is serious business and should be done gently if the writer wrote the article in good faith, as here. I think an apology to PastFinder is in order. I have removed the useless warning. - CrazyRussian talk/email 12:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

License tagging for Image:Pastor Don.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Pastor Don.jpg. Wikipedia gets thousands of images uploaded every day, and in order to verify that the images can be legally used on Wikipedia, the source and copyright status must be indicated. Images need to have an image tag applied to the image description page indicating the copyright status of the image. This uniform and easy-to-understand method of indicating the license status allows potential re-users of the images to know what they are allowed to do with the images.

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This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. If you need help on selecting a tag to use, or in adding the tag to the image description, feel free to post a message at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 12:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

by the way...

If you end your comments on talk pages with 4 "tildes" (~~~~) the system will automatically sign and date your comments.

Image copyright problem with Image:Pastor Don.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Pastor Don.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}. If you have not already done so, please also include the source of the image. In many cases this will be the website where you found it.

Please specify the copyright information and source on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, or ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. thunderboltz(Deepu) 06:20, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Images uploaded need to have a copyright tag and a source (a link from where you got it), so we can verify that the image is suitable for use on wikipedia. Adding the tag is pretty easy too. Click on the "edit this page" button on the top on the image's description page. Then, replace the {{no license}} tag that I added, with the appropriate tag from WP:ICT. If you created this image yourself, add {{gfdl-self}} to it to release it into public domain. Only images under a free license (as described on the page), are usually allowed. However, if your image comes under any of fair use criteria, then please add the appropriate tag and an explanation underneath on why it qualifies as fair use. Hope this helps. Need any further help, please contact me.-- thunderboltz(Deepu) 06:40, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I am a Mallu. :-) Where are you from? I'm curently in Kochi in Kerala. Have you been to (or are you from) this part of the world?
Regarding email, go to Special:Preferences. There you find an option to enable email. You should authenticate your email by following the instructions. Then, select the checkbox where it says "Enable e-mail from other users". Click save. That should do the trick. Then on, people can email you using the link : Special:Emailuser/Rencin24.-- thunderboltz(Deepu) 07:11, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
He put a GFDL liscense on it, even though he didn't take it. I might nominate this for deletion. NauticaShades(talk) 07:16, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Pastor Don.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Pastor Don.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. NauticaShades(talk) 07:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Pastor Pages

Hey, I saw that you were expressing dismay at the fact that some of your pages were being deleted (and yes, I voted for deletion of the Pastor Don page). You didn't seem to understand why these deltions are occurring, claiming that you had asked for help to make the article better. I thought I'd explain why these articles are going up for deletion to help you out so when, in the future, you make other articles you can avoid having your work deleted.

Wikipedia is a secular/objective encyclopedia with a very strong policy of requiring all articles to fit in the Non-Point of View policy. You clearly stated, in your defense of the article, that you are simply 'trying to promote the word of God.' Evangelism does not fit in NPOV policy; wikipedia articles can't take a stance on whether or not God exists or which religion's God's exists. Thus you can't make an article that assert things like "Right from an early age, he had a Passion and a love for things of God and a desire to serve Him." This language is infused with a Christian viewpoint. A more proper way of phrasing it would be something like "From an early age he was raised in a Christian setting which led him to develop strong religious feelings." Not all readers of the Wikipedia believe in God and putting things in overtly religious language amounts to pushing one point of view over others.

Furthermore, even if the article had been written in an objective manner, the fact remains that the man was not sufficiently notable to get an article on the wikipedia. This is not to say that he wasn't a good man, I'm sure he was. However, the Wikipedia can't be a repository of information on every Past whose ever lived. That would open it up to being available to offer a memorial to every person who'd ever lived, which simply isn't possible. This is not a place for a memorial. An individual has to be relatively famous to justify having an article on the wikipedia and this person simply didn't meet this requirement. --The Way 10:18, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"welcome" reply

I've replied to your query of Cattlegirl. Jpe|ob 11:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcoming- reply

Hello Cattlegirl I just want to know how to find out new users and give them a welcome note. Would be great if you can help me.Thanks. rencin24 rencin24 11:18, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be happy to help!
When you welcome new users, you can either do it through the Recent Changes page, but a quicker way is Special: log/newusers, which is a page of just the new users. To welcome them, put one of these templates on their pages:

{{Subst: Welcome}} ~~~~ This is for I.P. addresses. {{Subst: Welcome2}} ~~~~ This is a longer welcome for registered users. {{Subst: Welcome3}} ~~~~ This is a shorter welcome for registered users.

Happy to help- CattleGirl 11:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm from Australia... got some good Angus over here! :) CattleGirl 11:33, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]