Talk:Love–hate relationship

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a Love-Hate relationship is a troubled one where both emotions, Love and Hate, are present at the same time in a relationship.


What should you do if you are in a Love-Hate relationship

It is generally agreed that you should just let the hate go away and concentrate on the love. 

amanda

See also:

This is a ridiculous article. Should something be done to improve it, or should it be deleted? - Montréalais

Should be deleted, IMHO.
Delete

Is there any reason at all that this article deserves to be on Wikipedia? - Manika

KEEEP! 68,100 Google hits can't be wrong. The thing exists in reality and is also depicted in numerous movies.

improve yes but not to delete.

Keep! I created a stub from a long not working link in Love and within 24 hours lots of people participated ;-). Now, to the points by other people made here.

  1. Can this page be improved? Certainly, this page have less than one day old.
  2. Is this page really necessery? I've no idea, let's try to improve it and we shall see.
  3. Google test show over 68100 hits for love-hate relationship. Granted, this is usually figuratively meaning (like love-hate relationship with MS Windows), this is however undoubtly a state of human emotion. Some background searching in imdb.com for a love-hate string in imdb's plot descriptions shows some 16 examples, most notable is "Sister, sister" sitcom, describing the love-hate relationship between Lisa and Ray.
    1. I personally think that love-hate relationship can be described in fiction as a relationship between Sheperd/Willis in Moonlighthing, Ron/Hermione in Harry Potter series, Gable/Colbert in It Happened One Night. Those examples are of course a positive ones, i.e. leading to future romance.
    2. On the other hand love-hate relationships are also those relationships which form in sociopatic situations: examples include abused wife, who does not want to leave her husband claiming that she can change him etc.
    3. Sometimes fighting siblings can be described as having a love-hate relationship.
  4. However, love-hate relationship seems to be very broad term. Certainly it one can name sub-emotions of love-hate relationship.
  5. Additional point to consider. Even my Oxford's Learners Dictionary have an entry for love-hate relationship ;-)
  6. See also Love-hate song by Dion & Pavarotti [1]
  7. There is possibility of having more appropriate name for emotions exemplified above. In that case this page can be a redirect to such name.

Przepla 23:06, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Love/Hate Relationships in Fiction

Should Elaine and George of Seinfeld be listed here? I don't think there is any justification for the "hate" part of their relationship.

Moe and Marge?

I don't think the Calvin and Susie from Calvin and Hobbes has much foundation as a love-hate relationship. (sign you're posts!) NeoChrono Ryu 00:27, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Insomuch as the idea of the "love-hate relationship" commonly exists and is discussed and portrayed in works of fiction the subject deserves an article. This article, however, is possibly one of the stupidest articles in all of wikipedia (and I just finished reading though the "Sex moves" category). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.83.169.10 (talk • contribs) 17:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC).[reply]

It definitely deserves an article, but not one that reads like original research, which the following section undoubtedly does (bolding mine to show what makes it OR and not statement of facts, I'll explain how immediately afterward):
A love-hate relationship is between two people who refuse to accept the liking of each other or the enjoyment of one another's presence. The couple usually holds a weak grudge towards one another creating a feud between emotional depression and happily ever after. The relationship is held together by the hatred each person conjures when feeling incomparable to the other's perfection. This anger is the cover up for the "love" part of the relationship because the couple dislikes society's knowledge of the affair. The hate is also powered by the teasing of each person while the frustration reaches its maximum level through the restriction on releasing their sexual tension and intimacy.
The above section says it is this, it is that... no. It's not. "Love-hate relationship" is not a scientific law or well-supported scientific theory. It is an idiom, a linguistic construct used to describe a social or psychological concept ; in other words, it's a concept, or rather, multiple specific concepts that are described using the same idiom. I know that bit I just wrote is redundant, but I feel like saying it again, just as I did for the Mary Sue article: you CANNOT and should not say that something is or is not something that is a subjective term. One person's "love-hate" relationship is another's "passionate romance" or in some cases normal "sibling rivalry", etc.. The term is a description of one or more concepts of emotional states, not a scientific term. Do not say that "love-hate" is or is not something; instead, say can refer to something, "describes" something, etc., because that is the only kind of fact there is about and idiom such as this that describes subjective emotional states.

This, too - argh!:

On the other hand, the relationship may be held together entirely by insecurity; the people in the relationship may believe that (for some reason or another) they are "unable to live without" one another, and knowing no other existence but with each other, choose the certainty of staying together over the risk of leaving. The two people in such a relationship are totally incompatible, but believe that they are both with the best person for themselves that they are going to get.
Again, reeks of original research in lieu of stating the facts about the term. -RW 63.21.32.196 22:37, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The two quoted passages are not only original research (well, probably) but the first one is almost completely incomprehensible. "...creating a feud between emotional depression and happily ever after." What does that even mean? Call me clueless but the whole latter half of this article needs to be removed. --Bk0 (Talk) 04:47, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? Nice example........

The article begins as a description of a type of romance, and then its first example of a love-hate relationship is about a person's feelings towards a computer. It sounds like what some parent would say to their inept nerdy son in order to explain a love-hate relationship. I suppose it should be removed or moved downwards in the article, though I can't decide which one is a better edit.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 03:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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