Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2006 October 30

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30 October 2006

Ghost ramp

AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ghost ramp

A terrible example of verifiability being totally optional (despite the foundation's wishes) as we turn Wikipedia into a blog, this AfD shows people arguing that we should base an article almost entirely on looking at satellite images in Google maps (on my user page you can find some other articles we could include, according to this silly logic). The AfD presents no evidence that the term "Ghost ramp" has ever been used except on "numerous web-sites". Academic and news searches turn up nothing, no one but a handful of internet discussion people care about this term. A neologism and original research, this article was kept because of the results of a vote, despite the fact that AfD is supposedly not a vote. If verifiability is actually important, this article has no place on Wikipedia. This article clearly goes against WP:NEO, "If the article is not verifiable... then it constitutes analysis, synthesis and original research and consequently cannot be accepted by Wikipedia." and "Support for article contents, including the use and meaning of neologisms, must come from reliable sources. Wikipedia is a tertiary source that includes material on the basis of verifiability, not truth. To support the use of (or an article about) a particular term we must cite reliable secondary sources such as books and papers about the term — not books and papers that use the term." They don't even have books and papers that use the term, just some websites and usenet groups. --W.marsh 14:41, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse closure. I'm not seeing a consensus at all, either. --badlydrawnjeff talk 15:23, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thankfully that's not needed to delete unverifiable information. --W.marsh 15:26, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't be opposed to removing what's believed to be OR and keeping it at stub level for the time being, or moving it to a better known/more accurate title, but I see no reason to remove it outright, nor was there a consensus to do so. --badlydrawnjeff talk 15:54, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ashanti White

A recently added page for Ashanti White, Miss Johnston County, has been requested for deletion. The issue is that the pageant is a county pageant. However, I argue that the page remain because the Miss Johnston County Pageant is an official preliminary to the Miss America Pageant. A contestant must win a local pageant before advancing to the State and National Pageant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vcwoods (talk • contribs)

Wrong place, the article still exists, just simply read the text in the grey box, which mentions that you can remove the notice if you disagree with it. ~ trialsanderrors 07:41, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]