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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by The Crying Orc (talk | contribs) at 08:16, 21 November 2006 (→‎[[Shoreline Christian Center]]: delete this garbage). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Shoreline Christian Center

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No notability asserted for this obscure Christian Center in Texas (although it assures us that "The growth of the church is growing rapidly".) wikipediatrix 03:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. MER-C 03:36, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - it has 6000 members, making it as notable as any of the high schools on Wikipedia. -Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 03:53, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It claims to have 6000 members. Big difference. (My family church still "claims" me as a member even though I literally have not attended since I was eight or nine. With many churches, simply being on their mailing list makes you a "member".) wikipediatrix 03:59, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There are also churches, however, which go the other way around, with many attendees not being members. And if it makes the claim, we probably should go with "innocent until proven guilty" and not assume they're lying, but check it out. -Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 04:10, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I can't give unsourced claims the benefit of the doubt, especially in an article written with such POV. wikipediatrix 04:20, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. The size of the church (unless backed up with sources demonstrating that this is somehow an unusual number) isn't a claim to notability vis a vis schools anyway. What makes a school notable - when it is - is a different set of criteria. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 04:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - in view of this: [1], an independent, and non-local source. I they have seating of 5000, high on the source's list (and likely more than 1 service), that qualifies as a mega-church, and a keep. -Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 04:31, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, advertising tone, bare assertion of notability which is not near enough to pass WP:ORG. Source provided by Patstuart is about a sound system, coverage of the church is limited to "This sound system, that we're talking about, happens to be in this building", which is a trivial mention. Seraphimblade 04:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Additionally, the source that Patstuart cites simply proves that the church exists. The fact that it exists doesn't make it notable, and neither I think does the fact that it's a megachurch - since there are lots of these. If it was shown to be the first, oldest, biggest or something else-ist Megachurch, then we'd be in business. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 06:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as shameless 'vanispamcruftisement'. Badly written to boot: 'Shoreline Christian Center has nursery, children, youth place where they can get closer to their relationship with God.' — which is not only not English, but barely conforms with NPOV etc. Just make it go — could this not have been speedied? The Crying Orc 08:16, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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