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General guidelines

Anyone editing the main article should read the WikiProject Computer and Video Games page so that the article remains conformed to the project's guidelines.

Anyone who wants to work on character or game guides should go to the Wikibooks section on MapleStory which is located here. The link can also be found at the bottom of the article in the external links section.

Only notable fansites and guides should be added to the external links section in the main article. Small or new forums and guild websites do not belong there. Wikipedia is not a place to advertise, and adding too many links will clutter the article.

The game issues page located at MapleStory Game Issues should only include factual information about existing scams, without including how to avoid the scams. Also, do not link to scam and/or hack websites.

Information on pricing items does not belong here as it is too volatile and is not encyclopedic. If you want to price items, refer instead to Sleepywood, Hidden-Street and BasilMarket.

The game is called MapleStory, with no space (not Maple Story) so please keep everything under that name.

-- Prod-Me 03:15, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Order of fan sites

It has come to my attention that the fan sites with the most amount of information, features, and etc are being left behind. Sleepywood.net, is a message board, it doesn't contain much information material. Whereas Mapletip has its very own Maplewiki, etc. Sauna and hidden street are also good sources, but not as well as mapletip is.

So the question is order by usefulness or abc, or popularity.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.214.221.232 (talkcontribs)

Here are the distinctions of each site as I see it (comments are welcome):

  • hidden-street.net - most extensive library of game information
  • sauna.gibbed.us - extensive information extracted from the data files of the game
  • sleepywood.net - biggest forums, trading market and largest community
  • mapletip.com - has a wiki-like project
  • happymapling.net - should be deleted, all game information is already in the other site and there forum require registration just to read them plus is not as large as sleepywood's forums

--TheYmode 06:36, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

mapletip is also very extensive, with power search, filtering, skins, commenting (so users can learn more), quest guides, and forum help. hidden-street isn't exactly user friendly, but I'd say it'd both good. Sleepywood MAY BE the biggest forum, but it does not provide quality information. sauna is also fine. 69.214.221.232 06:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hidden-street may be extensive, but it is also highly innacurate on a lot of things (as most of the initial information was simply lifted off of already innacurate jMS websites). I agree that Sleepywood is mostly a forum, but inside the forum is a lot of valuable information (ie. instant updates with things like how to complete brand new quests that won't get added to other sites untill much later). While it may not be organised in the same way as other sites, all the information is still there. Also, with the largest community, it's often the most up to date with new information about not only other versions but with oMS itself. 66.91.204.174 10:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't mean mapletip, the most useful website should be last. 69.214.221.232 13:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The order in not that important, as long as all the sites are notable and have a distinctions. I have rearrange them in alphabetical order. --TheYmode 15:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

my 2 cents is that hidden-street is best on easily accessible, extensive info. sleepywood and mapletip both have large communities, and mapletip has an info database too. sauna is hardly better than machine-readable and most of the sauna content is in hidden-street; don't even list sauna. --Froth 02:36, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another site fans use is basilmarket It has some guides written by players and screenshots and videos for entertainment. Brady1234 20:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA failed

1. Well written? Fail
2. Factually accurate? Pass
3. Broad in coverage? Fail
4. Neutral point of view? Pass
5. Article stability? Pass
6. Images? Fail


Additional comments :

  • No image states its fair use rationale though they should.
  • Various words such as NPC, RPG aren't defined though they should. It is also badly in need of wikilinks.
  • This The minimum possible point level scored when the dice is rolled in a statistic is four and the maximum is thirteen. When creating the character, the player can also choose from a limited variety of faces, hair styles, hair colors and skin colors. These can be modified only through the purchase of special coupons from the Cash Shop. needs a citation.
  • During the earlier levels, only a few minutes or hours of gameplay are required to level up. The higher a character's level becomes, the more experience points one needs to level up. This means that the higher a character's level gets the more time it takes to gain a level. When a character is level 70 or higher, it may take days or weeks to level up once. is the same for every game, so it shouldn't be that long to explain ... it should be cut down or original research may come as a problem.
  • From section Leveling up to Dying the article lacks citations and falls into an in-universe view of the game which is not acceptable for such an article. Many other sections fall into that category.
  • Can Versions and registration be axed down for it is really unimportant.
  • What about development, releases.
  • What about the interface, innovations in the setup.
  • What about earnings of the company making the game.
  • The article should cut down on the gameplay, story.

Lincher 02:31, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"* This The minimum possible point level scored when the dice is rolled in a statistic is four and the maximum is thirteen. When creating the character, the player can also choose from a limited variety of faces, hair styles, hair colors and skin colors. These can be modified only through the purchase of special coupons from the Cash Shop. needs a citation." This is common knowledge. You can't make a stat go below four unless you use client-side hacks. As for hair styles, colours, and skin colours, I think the citation can point to the cash shop page of the official game. OhanaUnited 03:03, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nicknames(楓故事)

楓故事 is not the general nickname in Japan. It is no more than a name of one fan sight or the information sight.

Isn't 楓故事 kanji for MapleStory. And how come OMS appears in both kMS and gMS nickname section?Lancerex6 01:37, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OMS is in both kMS and gMS because both of them are referred to as "Official MapleStory". This is inaccurate, however, because the first Maple was actually jMS. Ryuugaki 03:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

nexon-MTV networks partnership

I just think that it should be mentioned about the new partnership. Not too much about about prospective future,since maplestory is nexon's major project in america. (though we will see upcoming games like Audition Online) I didn't check but hopefully all the links are updated.

Would be cool if GlobalMS got an exclusive area with a MTV theme, the way KoreaMS has a Coca-Cola theme area. - Takiten 05:20, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sharenian.

Sharenian is specifically, just the Guild Quest. The new path in Perion's mountain range (The excavation site, and the skeleton+castle maps) is not called "Sharenian". It's just a new section of perion, even uses the perion icon in the mini map. So shouldn't that be taken off the "town availability" chart? I realize the sharenian guild quest and the new perion maps are patched together, but I personally think the "sharenian" part of the chart should be removed, since it's not a town (return to town scrolls don't drop you off at the excavation site if you are training in that area). Further proof at sauna.gibbed.us, shows the excavation site is part of victoria road, and not sharenian. Anyway, just thought I'd throw that out there. - Takiten 01:52, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If this is the case, shouldn't Helios Tower and Aqua Road Dungeon be taken off as well, seeing that they are not a town, they are just additional maps. - Lancerex6 12:08, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well my argument for that is, Helios Tower and Aqua Dungeon were seperate patches. Sure they are not towns, but they are new area addons that should be listed. So I suppose in this case, maybe a "Perion Excavation Site" row should be replaced in "Sharenian"'s spot. - Takiten 04:12, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TaiwanMS, does it have the Guild Quest?

I was looking through the TaiwanMS information sites listed on the main artical. I didn't see any monsters or maps of anything from Sharenian Guild Quest. The only thing TaiwanMS has is the few maps leading up to Perion Excavation Site. They don't have any of the skeleton monsters in their monster list or maps past the excavation site, or the obelisk npc for the guild quest. Obiously if this is the case, then they must patch the perion excavation site seperate from the perion castle ruins and the guild quest, much the same way that helios tower was patched seperate from korean folk town. So I was thinking, we need to split the excavation site into to halfs on the town availability chart. Plus I was thinking since grave of mushmom, iron boar land, and the forest of golem are also areas in their own way (same as helios tower), that they should be included on the chart to show which versions have them or not. If anyone can confirm if TaiwanMS has the guild quest or not, that would be a start. - Takiten 00:02, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I should have checked the main site before checking a fan information site. My bad. Anyway, any thoughts on adding "The Grave of Mushmom", "Iron Boar Land", "The forest of Golem" to the town availability chart? Should they just be 1 row, or 3 seperate rows, or just not mention them at all? As far as I know, they all get patched into a version in 1 single patch when they are released. There's also the ant tunnel additions with the ice and winged drakes. I suppose it would be too much to add all this to the chart. -- Takiten 03:20, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup

Well, I accidentally removed this from my watchlist about a month back, and the page went crazy after that >.> I've tried to cleanup what I could but there are a few things left.

  1. I haven't gone through all the external links, but that section looks way too long. The non-English websites should be moved to their own languages.
  2. Criticisms section needs to be cleaned up and shrunk. Move all the junk to the MapleStory game issues page, since that page is already full of junk (I may get around to cleaning it up >.>).
  3. Get rid of some of the excessive headings. The ToC at the top is two screens long for me, which I feel is too long.

Finally, I archived this talk page cause it was getting waaay too long. -- Prod-You 01:42, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with all three points.
  1. The external links has expanded and now looks like it did a few months ago, with all those separate language sections.
  2. The criticism section has grown since I last saw it -- the sections are pretty strange, too. "Boredom"? Wouldn't that eventually become an issue in every game? It should go back to how it was, and all the new stuff should go to the game issues page.
  3. The ToC is definitely stuffed up. Let's clear that nasal congestion and shrink it.
Kalani [talk] 00:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Whats with all the non-English sites?! This is the English Wikipedia, for English readers. They contribute nothing more than the english sites already do. All the others belong at there respected languages Wikipedia's, not here. TheYmode 16:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism

I notice "Boredom" and yet there's no mention of the extraordinarily rude, cruel, and obnoxious player base, I've never played an MMO with even equally obnoxious and cruel users, shouldn't the unusual level of malignant behavior be mentioned in place of something as commonplace as Boredom?--Revrant 19:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just add it if you feel like. But I don´t think it would fit in "Boredom". But you indeed got a valid point.
Well I meant that Boredom gets mention, something every MMO suffers from, and yet not the especially maligned attitude of the players here, not that they should be combined.--Revrant 19:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question on System Requirements

Since MapleStory is only playable on Internet Explorer, should that be made part of the System Requirements? 140.142.190.217 01:04, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That makes no sense. You don't play MapleStory through Internet Explorer. Sure, the website can only be accessible through IE (well, you can access it through Firefox as well if you know what to do), but it's not really part of the game. enochlau (talk) 01:05, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Anyway, not all MapleStory websites have to be viewed on IE; for example, MapleSea allows the user to view its pages using Firefox. --Jellyfisho 11:23, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but kMS requires Internet Explorer, because you start the game from their website. But that's pretty much it, so no, it shouldn't be part of the req's. Ryuugaki 03:46, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IE comes with all windows computers. MapleStory only runs on windows so that is a given. Redskunk 00:21, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anime?

Article lacks info on this and the "Maple Girl" series.

http://www.animenewsservice.com/archives/novx.htm

Also, the info is on Madhouse's website, but in Japanese and I can't find it myself. 70.119.79.88 21:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In-game music question for KMS players.

I don't know if this is the right place to ask this or not. I was just curious to what in-game music does Xi Men Ding (town and outside areas) and Thai Floating Market (town and outside areas) has. I'm kind of a maple story music fan and these are the only music tracks I have not heard yet. If anyone that plays KMS or any other version with these areas, could either tell me if these towns/areas have unique music or not, and or maybe even fraps some of the music and upload the video to youtube, It would be great. I haven't found any maplestory fan sites that have music of these two areas. -- Takiten 03:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I might be able to help you with this. Send me an email and we can discuss this through there. -- Prod-You 06:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I found out that JapanMS data.wz has music for Shanghai City, and Night City, but no Xi Men Ding Music, which doesn't make sence since the only way to night city is through xi men ding. So this tells me that there must not be any new music for xi men ding. Can any KoreaMS or TaiwanMS players confirm this? Maybe xi men ding just uses kerning city's music? -- Takiten 01:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What is Maple Island Adventurer Course?

In Town Availability, I saw an area called Maple Island Advanturer Course and What is it? And can the players which left Maple Island come back to Maple Island to go to that area?

By the way KoreaMS(KMS) does not have access to that area. - wkkim9292

It's a new beginners area in JMS. Theres this studio looking stage map that has back drops and props for each town of Victoria, and tv's showing each class fighting some monsters. I guess it's a way to show beginners what each class looks like and what victoria's towns look like. Then there's another map with some stage props of orbis, el nath, aqua road, and ludibrium. On this map you can fight some monsters for 1 exp each that don't attack you. Basically they switched out all mushroom town maps (the old tutorial) and replaced it with this adventure course tutorial. All the old beginner quests from the old tutorial are still there though. There's also some new in game music for this area. And as far as I know, you cannot go back to this area once you leave, so you can only check this out with a brand new character. After leaving this area, you end up on the first map with green snails on maple island. -- Takiten 03:04, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This info would be useful on the MapleStory world page. Can you add a short description there? -- Prod-You 03:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Added, Might be too long though, edit away. I'll see if I can get a screenshot added too. -- Takiten 03:55, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Picture Requests/Edits/Removals

This discussion applies to all of the PC MapleStory articles (1, 2, 3)

These articles, however many pictures they may have at the moment, are still lacking some key screenshots that I believe would illustrate the certain sections of the articles much better. There are also some pictures that I think could be replaced with better or more informing ones. Feel free to add to the list what you want, and if you'd like to contribute screenshots yourself (which would be greatly appreciated), check out Wikimedia Commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org commons.wikimedia.org). Be bold. The Captain Returns 00:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Picture Requests

  • Character at Beginner 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th job.
So, this is how it would work; five pictures of the same character, white background, horizontally aligned, maybe with the job advancement typed in a caption underneath each one, somewhat like this. In the beginner one, it would show the character's default beginner clothing, in the first job picture, it would show the character with 1st job armor, etc. The Captain Returns 00:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested Picture Edits

This picture shows pretty much everything it should, attack animation, damage, and experience being gained. It would be even better cropped though. The Captain Returns 00:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]







Suggested Picture Removals

Riprey rename to Leafre? And Xi Men Ding rename to Taipei City?

Someone added to the world artical that Leafre will be the English name in GlobalMS. Anyone have a source if this is true or not? The only logical reason I can see it being called Leafre, is because that's the filename for the map icon, AND it's the filename for the town music track. Should we just change it to Leafre on all articals? Second, I came across a Japanese website with music tracks, and the music track for Xi Men Ding is called "YoTaipei.mp3". Taipei is the capital city of Taiwan. So I suppose it would make sence that "Xi Men Ding" will probably be called "Taipei City" in an English version of MapleStory. If ChinaMS made a exclusive map for Shanghai called Shanghai City, then Taiwan could probably do the same with Taipei. -- Takiten 03:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Ximending is a district of Taipei after reading about it. And the map icon for Ximending even says "Ximending" in Chinese. Not sure what to say now. Guess just leave it as is until an English version of MapleStory get's it. -- Takiten 03:31, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, Found another thing. I suggest we just keep it as Riprey anyway, unless someone has a definite source that it will be Leafre in an English version. Korean Folk Town was changed from "Down Town" in the Japanese version, and the music track for Korean Folk Town in all versions data is called "DownTown.mp3", so it's not really reliable to say that the music track filename will be the English name of the town. -- Takiten 04:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

party quest?!

I'm pretty sure the kerning city and ludibrium party quests aren't exclusive to only koreaMS and JMS. Please fix this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.107.17.71 (talk) 00:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

There's no mention of a exclusive kerning city pq anywhere, and the Ludibrium Maze PQ is exclusive to JapanMS for now. Just because we have it listed as exclusive doesn't mean it will stay exclusive forever. It means that it's exclusive for now. Same with the Henesy PQ. -- Takiten 05:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kerning and Ludibrium party quests are available in GMS and MSEA. Orbis Party Quest is not. It will eventually come though. Brady1234 20:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Minigame"

Should it be capitalized or not? The Captain Returns 02:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As the writer of "A guide for Mini-games", I would say that it doesn't matter. Generally, you don't need to capitalize it. In my guide, I am simply using conventions set by other game companies (e.g. Runescape) since they got more knowledgable staff than me. But if you are referring to a specific mini-game (e.g. Omok), you have to capitalize it. OhanaUnited 19:56, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Giant Smiley Face on MapleStory Wiki

When I first loaded the Wiki for this game, there appears to be a giant "smiley" face in place of the MapleStory logo, cutting off some text, and in most instances, stretching the page horizontally. Whenever I loaded the page again, however, it reverted back to the way it was... 205.237.151.108 06:13, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gachapon a mini-game?

I don't think Gachapon qualifiy as a mini-game. Mini-game are 1 or 2 player in-game features that entertain players. I highly doubt that Gachapon is a mini-game. It's more like a feature that gives advantage to cash shop users. OhanaUnited 06:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MapleStory Versions content template

It seems to me as if this template takes up a bit too much of its fair share of space on the article. Would it perhaps be better to provide a link to the template instead of including it? Kalani [talk] 08:16, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be better to shrink it... maybe use font size 1 for the entire grid, and shrink the checkmarks and X's to 10-15px instead of 20px. I'll try working on something. -- Takiten 23:59, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Still, it would probably still be very bulky even if it were shrunk. Another recommendation might be to remove the entire EuropeMS column; it has none of the listed features. A note could possibly be placed saying "Note: EuropeMS has none of these features at this time." or something. Removing eMS would shrink the table a small bit. (I still vote for a link to the template, however.) Kalani [talk] 06:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think it should be added to the template which versions have the 1.25% EXP bonus callicojack 11:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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How about something like this? This is just a sample, this would make it a lot less wide. -- Takiten 02:06, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Has ThailandMS got Pianus Boss Area?

Has ThailandMS got Pianus Boss Area and Pianus Boss? - wkkim9292

ThailandMS didn't get it now. We've got Papulatus only. - PiPU 08:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Has JapanMS didn't get Yu Yuan Garden in Patch 1.19?

I heard that JapanMS got Shanghai City, Xi Men Ding and Night Market in Patch 1.19. Does anyone know if JapanMS got Yu Yuan Garden in Patch 1.19? - wkkim9292

I will check when the patch is up. -- Takiten 00:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
JapanMS did not get Yu Yuan Garden. -- Takiten 16:40, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

World Tour NPC locations?

Trying to find where all the World Tour NPC's are located. So far I know she is in Henesys, Kerning City, Perion, Ellinia, Lith Harbor, Orbis, El Nath, Ludibrium, Riprey, Mushroom Shrine, Shanghai City, Xi Men Ding and Thai Floating Market. Anyone know if she is in Omega Sector and Korean Folk Town? I know she is not in Sleepywood or Aquarium in JapanMS. -- Takiten 17:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

She is not in Sleepywood and I dont think that she is in Korean Folk Town either. - wkkim9292 20:29, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I checked every town, the World Tour NPC is only (In JapanMS anyway) Lith Harbor, Henesys, Kerning City, Perion, Ellinia, Orbis, El Nath, Ludibrium, Riprey, Mushroom Shrine, Shanghai City, Xi Men Ding, and (Thai Floating Market, which JMS does not have yet). She is not in Sleepywood, Aquarium, Korean Folk Town, or Omega Sector. -- Takiten 22:21, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maple game room glitch

There's this common, but hard to reproduce glitch in MapleStory that causes players to turn a game room into moving signs. It's like this, if you press a certain combination of keys and mouse clicks, the game glitches and throws both players out, but the game room sign remains and the Mapler is free to do what they want while this "sign" is still up except talk, unless they have a pet that is able to talk.[1]
--205.237.151.108 21:50, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DELETION???

Why is thsi article being DELETED?? This makes no sence at all. Please remove the deletion tag.Davud363000 23:31, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]