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==Obama relatives==
{{Football club infobox |
Are [[Sarah onyango obama]] and [[Madelyn Lee Payne]] notable for anything other than being relatives of Barack Obama? If not, they should be merged into [[Barack Obama]]. [[User:Jfire|Jfire]] ([[User talk:Jfire|talk]]) 04:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
clubname = KS Elbasani|
image = [[Image:KS Elbasani.png|185px]]|
fullname = Klubi Sportiv or KF Elbasani|
nickname = Tigrat Verdheblu|
founded = 1923 |
ground = [[Stadioni Ruzhdi Bizhuta]],<br />[[Elbasan]], [[Albania]] |
capacity = 14,000|
chairman = {{flagicon|Albania}} [[Arben Laze]] |
manager = {{flagicon|Albania}} [[Mirel Josa]] |
league = [[Albanian Superliga]] |
season = 2007-08 |
position = 4th |
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As far as I know, that's their only relevance. They are the living grandparents of Barack Obama. (But I can't edit him because he's locked.) However, the details of Sarah Obama's life are interesting, as is the fact that she lives in a remote Kenyan village and that Obama has visited her. [[User:GreekParadise]]
'''Klubi Sportiv or KF Elbasani''' is an [[Albania]]n [[football (soccer)|football]] club, which plays in the city of [[Elbasan]]. The club was founded in 1923, from the fusion of two teams, "Aferdita Elbasan" and "Perparimi Elbasan", under the name "Klubi Futbollit Urani Elbasan".
:Ah, I see, it's semi-protected. I will tag them as candidates for a merge, and then when your 4 days are up you can merge them there. I agree that that's interesting, it's just that per our [[WP:N|notability]] guideline, unless they're notable on their own account, they should be covered in the [[Barack Obama]] article rather than in standalone articles. Anyway, welcome to Wikipedia, hope you like it here! :-) [[User:Jfire|Jfire]] ([[User talk:Jfire|talk]]) 04:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


== Bridge over troubled waters ==
In 1932, the club renamed themselves "KS Skampa Elbasan", in 1939, "KS Bashkimi", in 1949 "KS Elbasani", in 1950 "Puna Elbasan", and from 1958 to 1991 they were named "KS Labinoti Elbasan". The club plays at the [[Stadioni Ruzhdi Bizhuta|Ruzhdi Bizhuta]] stadium (capacity 13.500).


I will write an introduction in an attempt to address your concerns. If it doesn't satisfy you, I would suggest you propose an alternative on the article talk page. I respect your views and certainly think they should be taken into consideration. Let me play around with it a bit, and then see what you think. [[User:Slrubenstein|Slrubenstein]] | [[User talk:Slrubenstein|Talk]] 01:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
In the season of 1984-85, the team participated in a European cup competition for the first time. The club played in the first qualifying round of the 2005-06 [[UEFA Cup]], but were eliminated by [[FK Vardar]] of the [[Republic of Macedonia]] (1-1 aggregate).


Thanks. As you know, I very much respect your views as well. I look forward to seeing what you come up with. The section was stable for 2 1/2 days (a record?) but seems convoluted now. I must agree with Ferrylodge, who wrote in history "Restoring bridge section. This section was the subject of extremely lengthy discussion. Changes need to be discussed at talk page, because they raise problems." He and I worked hard on a compromise. Once an editor (and it wasn't you, it was one before you)disturbs a consensus, the section quickly grows with lots of editing. Then I'm sure folks will want to condense again. Such is wikipedia. My main goal is that no content is deleted. So I'll wait a day or two and then look it over when things calm down a bit. I generally don't delete content unless, as with Ferrylodge, folks insist on deleting content because it's "too long." Then I work to condense the material, tighten it to prevent redundancies while keeping everything that's verified, relevant, and NPOV.[[User:GreekParadise|GreekParadise]] ([[User talk:GreekParadise#top|talk]]) 12:59, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
During the 2005/06 season, the team of Elbasani dominated the [[Kategoria superiore|Albanian Superliga]] and won the second title in their history, finishing the competition with 11 points more than their rivals in [[SK Tirana]]. The city of Elbasan celebrated the fact in a unique way in [[Albania]], by bringing the players downtown in an open bus, where tens of thousands of fans congratulated them.

In the 2006-07 1st qualifying round for the [[UEFA Champions League|Champions League]] they were eliminated by [[FK Ekranas]] from [[Lithuania]] (1-3 aggregate). On 24 December 2006 coach [[Luan Deliu]] was fired and replaced by [[Edmond Gezdari]].


== Achievements ==

The club has won:

*[[Kategoria superiore|Albanian Superliga]]: 2
(1983-84, 2005-06)

* [[Kategoria e parë|Albanian First Division]]: 3
(1933, 1958, 2001-02)

* [[Albanian Cup]]: 2
(1975, 1992).

== KS Elbasani in Europe ==
* QR1 = 1st Qualifying Round
* R1 = 1st Round
{| class="wikitable"
! Season
! Competition
! Round
! Country
! Club
! Home
! Away
|-
|[[European Cup 1984-85|1984/85]]
|[[UEFA Champions League|European Cup]]
|R1
|{{flagicon|DEN}}
|[[Lyngby BK]]
|0-3
|0-3
|-
|[[UEFA Cup 2005-06|2005/06]]
|[[UEFA Cup]]
|QR1
|{{flagicon|Macedonia}}
|[[FK Vardar]]
|1-1
|0-0
|-
|[[UEFA Champions League 2006-07|2006/07]]
|[[UEFA Champions League]]
|QR1
|{{flagicon|Lithuania}}
|[[FK Ekranas]]
|1-0
|0-3
|-
|}

== Current squad ==
''As of [[July]], [[2008]].''
{{Fs start}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Ilion Lika]]|pos=GK}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Orges Shehi]]|pos=GK}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Irakli Toci]]|pos=GK}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Bledar Vashaku (Albanian footballer)|Bledar Vashaku]]|pos=GK}}
{{Fs player|no=|nat=BIH|name=[[Adin Mulaosmanovic]]|pos=DF}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Stavrion Lako]]|pos=DF}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Arjan Sheta]]|pos=DF}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Egert Bakalli]]|pos=DF}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Merdian Kasollja]]|pos=DF}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Endrit Vrapi]]|pos=DF}}
{{Fs player|nat=Kosovo|name=[[Shpëtim Babaj]]|pos=MF}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Elton Basriu]]|pos=MF}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Endri Duka]]|pos=MF}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Sokol Bulku (Albanian footballer)|Sokol Bulku]]|pos=MF}}
{{Fs mid}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Edlir Tetova]]|pos=MF}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Eriol Merxha]]|pos=MF}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Marsid Dushku]]|pos=MF}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Oriand Abazaj (footballer)|Oriand Abazaj]]|pos=MF}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Erbim Fagu]]|pos=FW}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Skerdi Bejzade]]|pos=FW}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Aldo Bello]]|pos=FW}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Armando Mehmetaj]]|pos=FW}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Renato Hyshmeri (Albanian footbaler)|Renato Hyshmeri]]|pos=FW}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Fjodor Xhafa]]|pos=FW}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Julian Gërxho]]|pos=FW}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Gentian Stojku]]|pos=FW}}
{{Fs player|nat=Cameroon|name=[[Bernard Tchoutang]]|pos=FW}}
{{Fs end}}

<span onmouseover="_tipon(this)" onmouseout="_tipoff()"><span class="google-src-text" style="direction: ltr; text-align: left">=== Incoming transfers 2008/09 === {{Fs start}} {{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Orges Shehi]]|pos=GK|other=from [[Partizani Tirana]]}} {{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Egert Bakalli]]|pos=DF|other=from [[KF Tirana]]}} {{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Endrit Vrapi]]|pos=DF|other=from [[KF Tirana]]}} {{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Merdian Kasollja]]|pos=DF|other=from [[KS Shkumbini Peqin|Skhumbini Peqin]]}} {{Fs mid}} {{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Oriand Abazaj]]|pos=MF|other=from [[KF Tirana]]}} {{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Erbim Fagu]]|pos=FW|other=from [[KF Tirana]]}} {{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Gentian Stojku]]|pos=FW|other=from [[KS Shkumbini Peqin|Skhumbini Peqin]]}} {{Fs player|nat=Cameroon|name=[[Samuel Bernard Tchoutang]]|pos=FW|other=from [[Hapoel Petah Tikva]]}} {{Fs end}}</span> === Próximos transferencias 2008/09 === ((Fs inicio) () (F jugador | nat = Albania | nombre = [[Orges Shehi]] | pos = GK | otras = de [[Partizani Tirana]])) ((F jugador | nat = Albania | nombre = [[Egert Bakalli]] | pos = DF | otros = de [[KF Tirana]])) ((F jugador | nat = Albania | nombre = [[Endrit Vrapi]] | pos = DF | otros = de [[KF Tirana]])) ((F jugador | nat = Albania | nombre = [[Merdian Kasollja]] | pos = DF | otros = de [[KS Shkumbini | Skhumbini Peqin] ])) ((F mediados)) ((F jugador | nat = Albania | nombre = [[Oriand Abazaj]] | pos = MF | otras = de [[KF Tirana]])) ((F jugador | nat = Albania | nombre = [[Erbim Fagu]] | pos = FW | otras = de [[KF Tirana]])) ((F jugador | nat = Albania | nombre = [[Gentian Stojku]] | pos = FW | otras = de [[KS Shkumbini | Skhumbini Peqin]])) ((F jugador | nat = Camerún | nombre = [[Samuel Bernard Tchoutang]] | pos = FW | otras = de [[Hapoel Petah Tikva]])) ((F final))</span> j

=== Outgoing transfers 2008/09 ===
{{Fs start}}
{{Fs player|nat=Macedonia|name=[[Nikola Karcev]]|pos=DF|other=to [[FC Terek Grozny|Terek Grozniy]]}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Julian Ahmataj]]|pos=MF|other=to [[Dinamo Tirana]]}}
{{Fs mid}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Endri Dalipi]]|pos=MF|other=to [[KS Bylis Ballsh]]}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Edlir Tetova]]|pos=MF|other=to [[KS Teuta Durrës]]}}
{{Fs end}}

== Former notable players ==
{{Fs start}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Nevil Dede]]|pos=DF}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Dorian Bylykbashi]]|pos=MF}}
{{Fs mid}}
{{Fs player|nat=Ghana|name=[[Seth Ablade]]|pos=FW}}
{{Fs player|nat=Albania|name=[[Migen Memelli]]|pos=FW}}
{{Fs end}}

== External links ==
*[http://kfelbasani.com KF Elbasani website]
*[http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/club=50048/domestic.html KS Elbasani at UEFA.COM]
*[http://www.eufo.de/football/alb/kf_esani.htm KS Elbasani at EUFO.DE]
*[http://www.weltfussball.de/teams/kf-elbasani/ KS Elbasani at Weltfussball.de]
*[http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=club_details&clubID=1323 KS Elbasani at Playerhistory.com]
*[http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/verein/6983/kselbasan/uebersicht/startseite.html KS Elbasani at Transfermarkt.de]
*[http://www.soccerpedia.net/db/index.php/KS_Elbasani Soccerpedia schedule KS Elbasani]
*[http://www.albania-sport.com/index.php Albania-sport.com]
*[http://www.freewebs.com/albsoccer/ Albanian Soccer News]
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[[Category:Football (soccer) clubs established in 1923]]
[[Category:Albanian football clubs|Elbasani]]
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Revision as of 12:59, 10 October 2008

Obama relatives

Are Sarah onyango obama and Madelyn Lee Payne notable for anything other than being relatives of Barack Obama? If not, they should be merged into Barack Obama. Jfire (talk) 04:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

As far as I know, that's their only relevance. They are the living grandparents of Barack Obama. (But I can't edit him because he's locked.) However, the details of Sarah Obama's life are interesting, as is the fact that she lives in a remote Kenyan village and that Obama has visited her. User:GreekParadise

Ah, I see, it's semi-protected. I will tag them as candidates for a merge, and then when your 4 days are up you can merge them there. I agree that that's interesting, it's just that per our notability guideline, unless they're notable on their own account, they should be covered in the Barack Obama article rather than in standalone articles. Anyway, welcome to Wikipedia, hope you like it here! :-) Jfire (talk) 04:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Bridge over troubled waters

I will write an introduction in an attempt to address your concerns. If it doesn't satisfy you, I would suggest you propose an alternative on the article talk page. I respect your views and certainly think they should be taken into consideration. Let me play around with it a bit, and then see what you think. Slrubenstein | Talk 01:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. As you know, I very much respect your views as well. I look forward to seeing what you come up with. The section was stable for 2 1/2 days (a record?) but seems convoluted now. I must agree with Ferrylodge, who wrote in history "Restoring bridge section. This section was the subject of extremely lengthy discussion. Changes need to be discussed at talk page, because they raise problems." He and I worked hard on a compromise. Once an editor (and it wasn't you, it was one before you)disturbs a consensus, the section quickly grows with lots of editing. Then I'm sure folks will want to condense again. Such is wikipedia. My main goal is that no content is deleted. So I'll wait a day or two and then look it over when things calm down a bit. I generally don't delete content unless, as with Ferrylodge, folks insist on deleting content because it's "too long." Then I work to condense the material, tighten it to prevent redundancies while keeping everything that's verified, relevant, and NPOV.GreekParadise (talk) 12:59, 10 October 2008 (UTC)