User talk:Targeman

Welcome

I'm surprised to see that nobody has welcomed you! Welcome! It's amazing that you are already making incredible contribution, such as the US$/Euro map. I just have three questions.

• Is Surinamese dollar pegged to the USD?
• Kosovo is also using the euro (exclusively, I suppose?)
• Saint Pierre and Miquelon also uses the euro. An honest mistake, I trust.

By the way, what software do you use to create these maps? I might one day do this myself too. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 11:27, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey ChoChoPK, thanks for your welcome message! :-) About the map:

1. Surinamese dollar: not pegged to anything, at least none of the articles on Wikipedia says so, and exchange rates listed on the website of Surinam's Central Bank suggest it floats freely against all currencies.

2. Kosovo uses the Euro, but I don't know yet how to carve out a border and fill Kosovo with color on the map. I'm using Inkscape [1], which is apparently the free software of choice for SVG images on Wikipedia. I used a blank map template I found on Commons.

3. You're of course right about Saint Pierre et Miquelon, an oversight. I'll try to correct that soon.

--Targeman 14:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, don't worry about where to answer. People have different practices. Some people choose to answer on the same page where it started. Some choose to repond on the other person's talk page. Some choose to copy, like we are doing now. Often times, people put up a banner at the top of the talk page to state their practices. I also include your map on some other relevant pages. Cheer. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 14:54, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Saint Lucia

Saint is said in full, with the long 'a' typical of midwestern English. I hear "Lucia" said with the same sound as Columbian Spanish makes in "gracias" ... not quite a "sh", closer to "sy". I wish I knew IPA better. It's a two syllable word, first syllable the American "loose", second syllable "ya", with a schwa for the vowel in "ya".

Thanks! That was fast :-) I'll insert that in a sec. If you want to learn more about IPA, you can read IPA_chart_for_English, although transcriptions I see around here are far from consistent. I'll raise the issue of standardizing them on Wikipedia when I find out whom to address :-) --Targeman 21:45, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello, the Lucia Saint Lucia is correctly pronounced "Loo-shya". Unfortunately I am not able to copy and paste the correct IPA character. Please could you make the necessary change. Many thanks! --Vivenot 10:46, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for making the correction! --Vivenot 13:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Palau Airport

Airport coordinates are always referred to the geographic center of the runways. For PTRO/ROR it would be the center of the lone runway. Are you sure you want to use the terminal? HkCaGu 06:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I wasn't aware about the coordinates being always centered on the runway. Thanks for the info, I've undone my edit... However, where do you center coordinates for airports with multiple runways? --Targeman 09:57, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:DOLLAR AND EURO IN THE WORLD.svg

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Hi, I saw your new map. I like the new colors better. Allow me to give you some tips that will make your life easier in the future. Both the old and the new maps were already on commons. So the images are also visible on the English Wikipedia (en:) under the same file name. Normally, the image description page on en: would be blank. In this case, the image description displayed is from commons. You requested deletion on the old image, but you happened to do so on en:, not on commons. So the result is that you created another image description page on en:, which only has the deletion request. I deleted the image description on en:. But the old image still exists on commons. I'm not an admin on commons, so the most I can do for you is to tag it, which I will do in a few minutes.

The easiest way to do what you intended to do in the first place is to upload the new map under the same file name. This way, you don't even need to update the articles, and the history of the file is preserved.

A question regarding the content of the new map. IMHO, the Danish krone, the Cypriot pound, and the Slovak koruna are not pegged to the euro. They still float in a narrow band. I also believe the same for the Surinamese dollar.

Cheers. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 06:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually on second thought, I downloaded the new image, and reloaded under the old name. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 06:22, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your suggestions re deletion, I realized all that too late, will pay attention next time. I'm still a newb here and the complexity of Wikipedia procedures is bewildering. :-)

As for the currencies you mention, yes they float within a narrow margin. So I would call them "loosely pegged" for lack of a better term. This could actually be discussed somewhere, we could vote on what to consider pegged or not... Now that I have a better grasp of the software, I could modify the map reasonably fast. Cheers --Targeman 07:40, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

If we include loosely pegged, I fear that it may open up a can of worms. That means we also have to include Hong Kong dollar, Kuwaiti dinar, and possibly more. Central banks may have a unpublished policy to loosely peg against the USD or the euro. In addition, some peg to a basket of major currencies, which is even more problematic when making the map. I'm starting to use inkscape and I do enjoying it. One question, how do you change the color of a shape that was previously grouped, without ungrouping the shape first? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 22:10, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Re:Polsteam

It is certainly a topic to discuss at that page talk's, if you disagree with me. I based my argument on 1) personal experience - being a Pole, I have heard of PŻM, but not of its new name 2) Polish Wikipedia which doesn't even mention the new name and 3) English website of PŻM-Polstrea, which mentions both names. It appears to me that the old name is still more popular - but I am open to counterarguments. Anyway, thanks for the article! -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  15:10, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Dinner Reservations

I know many royals that insist on filling out their own paperwork. In fact, my cousin Pyinsama Singhaya-nasin Sri Pawara Vijaya Nanda Jatha Maha Dharma Rajadhiraja Pagan Min Thaya Gyi Murphy works for Walmart as a greeter. You really should see his name tag. the_undertow ^talk 01:27, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Heritage aircraft

Actually for Eurowhite and some of the other articles that are see also in this article might be better included in a Aircraft livery article. I think having the bits and pieces that concern livery in one place may actually result in a good sized article. If one aspect grows to a point that it is too large, then it could be split back out. Vegaswikian 19:32, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Filomena Hanas

The newspaper link seems to be real ... but even if she is real, she's well wide of the notability mark. What seems bogus about that newspaper? Blueboy96 19:11, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

• I asked on the AfD for this article: "Are User:Zd123as, User:83.27.31.131, and User:Russian Pop connected in any way, or is it just a coincidence?" Bearian 02:42, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

AfD

Hey, I moved the proposal to talk, so that people would know where to comment and such. I believe this is the more general practice... we can move it back, but I'm afraid it is making kind of a mess, where people were voting down in the proposal section, etc. Mackan79 15:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

N/p. Hope it helped. Thanks, Mackan79 16:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of street gangs. Bearian 01:48, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Je crois que je n'ai jamais vu un tel niveau de n'importe quoi sur WP. Je savais qu'il faut parfois 1 ou 2 ans pour mettre un terme à des tentatives d'entrisme sectaire, ou ce genre de chose, dans la mesure où personne ne viole aucun principe de base (qui se réduit en fait à ne pas insulter les autres, ne pas faire plus de 3 revers en cas de conflit). Mais je n'avais jamais vu 20 contributeurs agir de manière concertée pour imposer leur point de vue en déstabilisant l'idée même de savoir encyclopédique. Dans ce cas là, ils sont nécessairement majoritaires, et peuvent faire n'importe quoi. Les mécanismes auto-correcteur n'existent tout simplement plus, puisque fondamentalement ils se fondent sur le consensus, et en fait la capacité à être majoritaire (ou faiblement minoritaire). Donc, ils suffit d'être nombreux pour faire ce qu'on veut. C'est vraiment une honte. Et je crois que moi aussi, j'ai perdu toute foi dans WP. Gedefr 15:46, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

• You are going to purgatory for this: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philippians 4:13. Bearian 16:28, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

A Note

Hey Targeman:

Sorry you got frustrated. I like Wikipedia a lot myself, but it’s very far from perfect. I edit a fair amount in political areas, and sometimes have to take a break and edit other things. There are many Wikipedians, however, who won’t touch Middle Eastern/Jewish/Muslim/Christian articles with a ten foot pole. There’s just too much posturing and politicizing and name-calling. I have finally come to the idea of embracing this struggle, in the hopes that a synthesis will emerge thereby. I find it happens on some articles, partisans on both sides whack away at each other until finally the result resembles something pretty close to an encyclopedia entry.

Anyway, a cool head with an ability to maintain editing neutrality, which you seem to have, will be sorely missed. Happy editing elsewhere, and hopefully I’ll see you around (if you’ll pardon my use of the word “hopefully” where I perhaps ought to have written “it is to be hoped”). IronDuke 22:26, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Please change this vote

Please change this vote. There are a lot of people who would find that offensive. --Deskana (talk) 19:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

That's some nice wikilawyering. WP:NOT applies to articles, not to people's comments. I asked you to withdraw it because it was unnecessarily confrontational. That you refused says a lot about you. --Deskana (talk) 22:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

I found it hilarious...--User:Atomic Religione

Exchange with a frustrated vandal (User:Dcs1)

you edited relevant info on pinkfloyd on july 27 2007 kindly dont do this again unless you want me to go revise anything you have written. if you think something i say is wrong talk to me first and tell me what u think needs changing i can be resonable thanks

hello i only state my blog so people can read more info on the subject than could be put on wikepidia..simple really, dont edit me again it wastes my time, i have far more relevant info on syd than anyone on the world, anyone ! it would be petty for us to get into an editing war so lets not..you leave my info alone and ill leave your info alone simple.

how on earth is living next to syd for 25 years original research!!!! like i said go write other articles ,if u mess with my contribusions ever again i guarantee anything you contributed to will also be altered..is all your info unbiased??? and not original research as you put it???????? i have unique insight into syd so leave me be. my info is both acurate and of use to floyd/syd/waters fans you removing it is a very stupid thing to do..im not wasting anymore time dealing with you, i know plenty of people who edit wikipedia and we can just as easily edit your work..would you like us to do that?? theres a million wiki articles blatently biased and wrong go mess with those if youve nothing better to do leave my efforts alone , thats my final warning before i decide to edit your work goodbye

fool i warned you i more edit of me and my army of helpers will edit ALL work you have done, yoll have all your work edited..see how you like it :) , leave my info alone or else...

Ġnejna Bay

I have withdrawn this AFD, because of your great additions to it: it is now sourced, and has substantial content proving notability. Thanks, -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 15:58, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for stepping up to protect Ġnejna Bay. lamato 16:19, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Agreed

I fully agree with your position. /Blaxthos 15:07, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Revert

I just heard that the HDI in 2007 would be around 0.850 on news paper the other day. Anyway how do you revert an article?

Apartheid arbitration

Following your previous involvement in this mess, you may be interested to see Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Allegations of apartheid. -- ChrisO 19:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)