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It is good to communicate! |
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Sarah – just thought I'd explain my reversion at [[Windgap, Kilkenny]]. I moved the content there from [[Windgap]] a little while ago, because of the liklihood of confusion with other places called Windgap or Wind Gap, and also with the geographical feature itself. If someone was looking for information on one of those other meanings, they would be confused if taken to the Irish village (lovely as I'm sure it is). On the other hand, with the current arrangement ([[Windgap]] redirecting to [[Wind gap (disambiguation)]]), everyone can see clearly what the choices are and decide which they really want. It also puts all the several Wind(_)gap places on an equal and fair footing, which is the usual WP arrangement. Having said all that, I'm not sure now whether the geographical feature is best called [[Wind gap]] as now, or (by the same argument as for the village), something like [[Wind gap (geographical feature)]]. What do you think? [[User:Richard New Forest|Richard New Forest]] ([[User talk:Richard New Forest|talk]]) 21:23, 21 September 2008 (UTC) |
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:My problem with the changes is that I don't agree with dabbing when the names are not the same. There is no other article called "Windgap" and I think there is a clear difference between the name and the geographical thing. Other places called Windgap (but not Wind Gap) need some sort of dab and in the absence of a prime location the first to have an article is valid if there are very few examples. [[User:Sarah777|Sarah777]] ([[User talk:Sarah777#top|talk]]) 08:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Typo in template name == |
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::Well, yes in fact there ''is'' another place called "Windgap": [[Windgap (Pittsburgh)]] – enough for a dab by itself. I do agree that there's no point in dabbing when the names are sufficiently different to avoid confusion – however, "Wind Gap" and "Windgap" are so extremely similar that they are bound to get confused, and so I can't really see how we can avoid a dab in this case. We can't expect people to know in advance which of these uses are one word and which are two – for example they might well want the Irish village and type "Wind Gap", or want the Pennsylvanian borough and type "Windgap". (To be honest, I'm already having trouble remembering which way round they are...) |
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In [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AWplanet&diff=192621189&oldid=prev this edit] to [[AWplanet]], you misspelled <nowiki>{{primarysources}}</nowiki>, leading to a busted template instantiation, as seen [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AWplanet&oldid=192621189 here]. Just a minor typo, but I wanted to let you know. — [[User:Alan De Smet|Alan De Smet]] | [[User talk:Alan De Smet|Talk]] 23:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::Thinking further about the name of the geographical feature, I don't think we can disambiguate that solely by capitalisation, so I've changed its title as above. |
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*Thanks! I was going too fast. --[[User:Stormbay|Stormbay]] ([[User talk:Stormbay#top|talk]]) 03:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::I saw you'd changed [[Windgap, Kilkenny]] to [[Windgap, County Kilkenny]] – that looks sensible, and is what I'd have done myself if I'd been less ignorant of Irish county naming. I've changed the dab to match. [[User:Richard New Forest|Richard New Forest]] ([[User talk:Richard New Forest|talk]]) 12:47, 22 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Deletion review == |
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:::Yep, the "X, County Y" is the standard format. [[User:Sarah777|Sarah777]] ([[User talk:Sarah777#top|talk]]) 20:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Hi sarah, you removed the history section from [[Windgap,_County_Kilkenny|Windgap]] article [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Windgap%2C_County_Kilkenny&diff=240301509&oldid=240300748 diff], why and what ''hoax''; thanks [[User:Mrchris|Mrchris]] ([[User talk:Mrchris|talk]]) 09:49, 23 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Archiving Your Talk Page == |
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:Ooops - I assumed it was a hoax - it isn't? Really need inline refs for stuff like that - the reference linked back to the article so I assumed it was a hoax. Apologies if I'm wrong. [[User:Sarah777|Sarah777]] ([[User talk:Sarah777#top|talk]]) 22:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Would you like me to archive your talk page?'''''[[User:Truco9311|<font color="black">T</font><font color="blue">r</font><font color="black">U</font>]][[User talk:Truco9311|<font color="blue">C</font><font color="Black">o</font>]][[User:Truco9311/Guestbook|<sup><font color="black">9</font></sup><small><font color="blue">31</font></small><sup><font color="black">1</font></sup>]]''''' 20:47, 1 March 2008 (UTC) |
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:{{done}}, I archived discussions older than February 2008.'''''[[User:Truco9311|<font color="black">T</font><font color="blue">r</font><font color="black">U</font>]][[User talk:Truco9311|<font color="blue">C</font><font color="Black">o</font>]][[User:Truco9311/Guestbook|<sup><font color="black">9</font></sup><small><font color="blue">31</font></small><sup><font color="black">1</font></sup>]]''''' 20:59, 1 March 2008 (UTC) |
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Above discussion copied from [[User talk:Sarah777]] [[User:Richard New Forest|Richard New Forest]] ([[User talk:Richard New Forest|talk]]) 13:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== Cadillac Records == |
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== Deleting "Ulf Gartzke" wikipedia entry == |
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Hello! |
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I was just alerted by a friend that you proposed to delete my current Wikipedia entry. That's fine with me as I think it had been tagged for "deletion" for quite some time. (I saw earlier that there were "notability concerns" but (in accordance with Wikipedia policies) never felt compelled to do anything about that... : ) |
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The only think I would ask is that you remove it speedily (that is before 4/12) |
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Thanks again! |
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Ulf <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ulfgartzke|Ulfgartzke]] ([[User talk:Ulfgartzke|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ulfgartzke|contribs]]) 22:54, 9 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I just recommended the deletion; others will make the decision. --[[User:Stormbay|Stormbay]] ([[User talk:Stormbay#top|talk]]) 02:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC) |
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Thanks for the compliment on my talk page. I do my best to contribute useful information in the limited time I have available. [[User:Dirac66|Dirac66]] ([[User talk:Dirac66|talk]]) 02:22, 20 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== [[Syed Ali Akbar]] == |
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re: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Syed_Ali_Akbar&curid=3826839&diff=207704485&oldid=197900252 your PROD], I only removed the prod because it just came off AfD and am pretty sure it needs to go back there. FWIW, I'd support deletion as the previous keep wasn't that convincing. <small>'''TRAVELLINGCARI'''</small>'''<sup>[[User:Travellingcari|My story]]</sup>'''<sub>[[User talk:Travellingcari|Tell me yours]]</sub> 23:47, 23 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:No worries, just happened to notice because it's still on my watchlist - and I remembered it because I was the one who took it to AfD the first time. I'm hoping for a non COI miracle improving that article, but there isn't much out there. <small>'''TRAVELLINGCARI'''</small>'''<sup>[[User:Travellingcari|My story]]</sup>'''<sub>[[User talk:Travellingcari|Tell me yours]]</sub> 03:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC) |
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==Charles de Biencourt de Saint-Just== |
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I removed your unsourced statement in the [[Charles de Biencourt de Saint-Just]] article that said: "Both Charles and his father had a vision of a flourishing agricultural settlement in Acadia." I could not find any information on agricultural development by him, only his extensive fur-trading activities. Perhaps you have your source for this and can insert the information details and reference. Thanks. [[User:Jonathan Logan|Jonathan Logan]] ([[User talk:Jonathan Logan|talk]]) 15:14, 14 May 2008 (UTC) |
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* I perhaps overstated the reference that I found. It was in the last paragraph of the DoCB reference provided. The "off and on" policy of the French was to provide a sustainable and growing agricultural base in Acadia. However, the greed for furs and fish seemed to over-ride the effort to send out genuine farmers to the area. Include a reference or not - your call! Cheers! --[[User:Stormbay|Stormbay]] ([[User talk:Stormbay#top|talk]]) 17:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC) |
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::Thanks. Biencourt was all about fast profits from furs and never promoted agriculture which was fundamental to sustaining a colony. The neglect by the French aristocrats in charge at that time was such that they were constantly short of food and [[Habitation at Port-Royal|Port-Royal]] went into severe decay. Biencourt survuived in his elder years because the natives took him in. 12:28, 15 May 2008 (UTC) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jonathan Logan|Jonathan Logan]] ([[User talk:Jonathan Logan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jonathan Logan|contribs]]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Cross Country Flying == |
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Hello -- In accordance with the guidelines for proposed deletion, I have removed your tag from the [[Cross-country flying]] article. I believe I can fix it by adding information to it, and that the article itself is notable once my content has been added. I have elaborated further on the article's talk page. Thought you might want a heads up! [[User:Dan Parnell|Lumbergh]] ([[User talk:Dan Parnell|talk]]) 03:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC) |
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*Thanks for the note. Cheers! --[[User:Stormbay|Stormbay]] ([[User talk:Stormbay#top|talk]]) 04:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Removed prod from [[Nicolas Cowan]], see [[Talk:Nicolas Cowan|talk page]] for explanation. == |
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* That is fine by me. It really could use work to make the article work. Cheers! --[[User:Stormbay|Stormbay]] ([[User talk:Stormbay#top|talk]]) 20:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC) |
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==Saekson Janjira and other kickboxing articles== |
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I saw you tagged [[Saekson Janjira]]. I've been contributing here on [[muay thai]] and kickboxing a lot, i got about 2700+ edits on kickboxing. I know the guy is notable fighter and trainer but the problem i'm having is all these low quality articles been created here in wikipedia about the sport. So i have no problem that its being cleaned up and deleted. There's a few others u wanna take a look at. All these are non notables: [[Wilver (Rio) Johnson]], [[Walter (Von) McGee]], [[Pete(El Dorado) Ortega]], [[Christopher Allen]], [[Alejandro DasCola]], [[Bernardo Jua]], [[Willie(KO) McGee]], [[Gilberto (Gil) Diaz]], [[Frederico Vega]], [[Carlos Andino]], [[Jonathan (Johnny) Spinks]], [[Robert Visitacion]], [[Robert Duttman]], [[Ronnie Deleon]], [[John Roycroft (kickboxer)]]. Cheers. [[User:Marty Rockatansky|Marty Rockatansky]] ([[User talk:Marty Rockatansky|talk]]) 04:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:Quite a list! I'm always hesitant to tag these because my knowledge is limited but I ran into this on a clean up. I will look at some of the others tho. Thanks for your interesr! --[[User:Stormbay|Stormbay]] ([[User talk:Stormbay#top|talk]]) 14:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC) |
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==[[:Wilver (Rio) Johnson]]== |
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I have removed the {{tl|prod}} tag from [[Wilver (Rio) Johnson]], which you proposed for deletion, because its deletion has previously been contested or viewed as controversial. [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] is not for controversial deletions. For this reason, it is best not to propose deletion of articles that have previously been de-{{tl|prod}}ed, even by the article creator, or which have previously been listed on [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion]]. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{tl|prod}} template back to the article, but feel free to list it at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion]]. Thanks! <!-- [[Template:Deprod-reprod]] --> --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 18:14, 11 June 2008 (UTC) |
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: I missed the previous action and understand the rules....probably should simply be kept....not a big deal either way! Cheers! --[[User:Stormbay|Stormbay]] ([[User talk:Stormbay#top|talk]]) 15:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC) |
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Hi Stormbay, I'm found your name listed as a member of the [[Wikipedia:Canadian_wikipedians%27_notice_board/Dictionary_of_Canadian_Biography|Dictionary of Canadian Biography project]]. Would you be able to help me out by taking a quick look at the new article, [[Angelina Napolitano]] to check if it is in line with the project requirements? I did read [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Canadian_wikipedians%27_notice_board/Dictionary_of_Canadian_Biography this page], but I don't know enough about Wikipedia terminology to be sure I did everything right – didn't understand how to fill in the bio template, for example, so I tried one from another page, but it is currently commented out because I could not get all the lines to show. Thank you for any advice or pointers in the right direction. [[User:WikiJedits|WikiJedits]] ([[User talk:WikiJedits|talk]]) 01:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC) |
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: Ah, that's good to know, thank you for taking the time. I'll stop worrying about that infobox :) [[User:WikiJedits|WikiJedits]] ([[User talk:WikiJedits|talk]]) 19:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC) |
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* not my article - check your posting! --[[User:Stormbay|Stormbay]] ([[User talk:Stormbay#top|talk]]) 02:48, 17 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== [[Harvard-MIT Joint Center for Urban Studies]] == |
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Hi Stormbay, |
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you [[WP:PROD|prodded]] this article on July 4th, but someone contested it. I think it fails [[WP:N]] because I haven't been able to find any substantial secondary sources, and I've put it up at [[WP:AFD]]. Just thought I'd give you a heads-up. [[User:Reyk|<font color="Maroon">'''Reyk'''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:Reyk|'''<font color="Blue">YO!</font>''']]</sub> 09:00, 24 July 2008 (UTC) |
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*I added some references to [[Harvard-MIT Joint Center for Urban Studies]]. --[[User:Eastmain|Eastmain]] ([[User talk:Eastmain|talk]]) 14:58, 24 July 2008 (UTC) |
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== John Ontario Miller == |
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The claims in the article, plus the sources, not all of which are likely to be online, seemed enough for notability. I did search and find some things I think, but then some urgent nonwiki business came up and by now I am so tired I don't think I can remember or say anything coherent. I'll see tomorrow. Regards,[[User:John Z|John Z]] ([[User talk:John Z|talk]]) 13:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC) |
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== Luis Miguélez == |
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You tagged [[Luis Miguélez]] for speedy deletion. I suspect that he is notable, with so many records and a comparatively long career, but I find the article quite confusing. Anyway, I removed the speedy tag. --[[User:Eastmain|Eastmain]] ([[User talk:Eastmain|talk]]) 03:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC) |
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* Fair enough! Confusing and lacking references...did you find anything usable? --[[User:Stormbay|Stormbay]] ([[User talk:Stormbay#top|talk]]) 14:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC) |
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== Woophy == |
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Hi, I've removed the {{tl|prod}} tag that you added to the article [[Woophy]] due to the fact that the article has survived a previous deletion discussion (see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Woophy]]). Cheers, –'''[[User:Black Falcon|Black Falcon]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Black Falcon|Talk]])</sup> 04:24, 7 August 2008 (UTC) |
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Thanks! I missed it. --[[User:Stormbay|Stormbay]] ([[User talk:Stormbay#top|talk]]) 14:38, 7 August 2008 (UTC) |
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==AfD nomination of Newswire (news music)== |
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== Re: Keith Schengili-Roberts (Notability) == |
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When I added the original entry the criteria was lower/non-existent. I would not miss the article should it need to be deleted, but in support of it, here are some other references: |
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* http://www.cbp.ca/eventsPages/judges.asp Judging Committee for the Canadian Business Press Awards |
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* http://plc.fis.utoronto.ca/about/plcinstructors.asp List of instructors at the University of Toronto's Professional Learning Centre |
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If you decide this and the books are insufficient (or sufficient) grounds, so be it. |
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I know this is all about making Wikipedia better, so no big deal either way. |
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Cheers! [[User:Captmondo|Captmondo]] ([[User talk:Captmondo|talk]]) 15:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC) |
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* Thanks! --[[User:Stormbay|Stormbay]] ([[User talk:Stormbay#top|talk]]) 20:28, 18 August 2008 (UTC) |
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== [[Na Píobairí Uilleann]] == |
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I just speedied this. I couldn't see anything much that would be usefully merged, but I'm ignorant on the topic and if you'd like me to recreate the article so you can merge material, please let me know. --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] ([[User talk:Dweller|talk]]) 16:29, 21 August 2008 (UTC) |
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==[[Amikam Balshan]]== |
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I have just added references into the article. Shalom, [[User:Mibelz|Mibelz]], 11:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Sarah – just thought I'd explain my reversion at Windgap, Kilkenny. I moved the content there from Windgap a little while ago, because of the liklihood of confusion with other places called Windgap or Wind Gap, and also with the geographical feature itself. If someone was looking for information on one of those other meanings, they would be confused if taken to the Irish village (lovely as I'm sure it is). On the other hand, with the current arrangement (Windgap redirecting to Wind gap (disambiguation)), everyone can see clearly what the choices are and decide which they really want. It also puts all the several Wind(_)gap places on an equal and fair footing, which is the usual WP arrangement. Having said all that, I'm not sure now whether the geographical feature is best called Wind gap as now, or (by the same argument as for the village), something like Wind gap (geographical feature). What do you think? Richard New Forest (talk) 21:23, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- My problem with the changes is that I don't agree with dabbing when the names are not the same. There is no other article called "Windgap" and I think there is a clear difference between the name and the geographical thing. Other places called Windgap (but not Wind Gap) need some sort of dab and in the absence of a prime location the first to have an article is valid if there are very few examples. Sarah777 (talk) 08:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, yes in fact there is another place called "Windgap": Windgap (Pittsburgh) – enough for a dab by itself. I do agree that there's no point in dabbing when the names are sufficiently different to avoid confusion – however, "Wind Gap" and "Windgap" are so extremely similar that they are bound to get confused, and so I can't really see how we can avoid a dab in this case. We can't expect people to know in advance which of these uses are one word and which are two – for example they might well want the Irish village and type "Wind Gap", or want the Pennsylvanian borough and type "Windgap". (To be honest, I'm already having trouble remembering which way round they are...)
- Thinking further about the name of the geographical feature, I don't think we can disambiguate that solely by capitalisation, so I've changed its title as above.
- I saw you'd changed Windgap, Kilkenny to Windgap, County Kilkenny – that looks sensible, and is what I'd have done myself if I'd been less ignorant of Irish county naming. I've changed the dab to match. Richard New Forest (talk) 12:47, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi sarah, you removed the history section from Windgap article diff, why and what hoax; thanks Mrchris (talk) 09:49, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- Ooops - I assumed it was a hoax - it isn't? Really need inline refs for stuff like that - the reference linked back to the article so I assumed it was a hoax. Apologies if I'm wrong. Sarah777 (talk) 22:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Above discussion copied from User talk:Sarah777 Richard New Forest (talk) 13:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)