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This whole article needs a rewrite. It's more of a eulogy than an article. Making assumptions about him being a hero or about the survivors of the holy grail honoring is not appropriate when writing a factual artice. [[User:Seektrue|Seektrue]] 11:46, 23 December 2006 (UTC) |
This whole article needs a rewrite. It's more of a eulogy than an article. Making assumptions about him being a hero or about the survivors of the holy grail honoring is not appropriate when writing a factual artice. [[User:Seektrue|Seektrue]] 11:46, 23 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:Agreed. The article is ''terrible'' and very un-encyclopedic. I started deleting the obvious POV stuff and cute asides and personal opinions but only a few paragraphs in it just becomes overwhelming. A ''thorough'' rewrite on the whole article is needed. Anyone interested in collaborating? [[User:Inoculatedcities|Inoculatedcities]] 01:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC) |
:Agreed. The article is ''terrible'' and very un-encyclopedic. I started deleting the obvious POV stuff and cute asides and personal opinions but only a few paragraphs in it just becomes overwhelming. A ''thorough'' rewrite on the whole article is needed. Anyone interested in collaborating? [[User:Inoculatedcities|Inoculatedcities]] 01:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC) |
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This whole article needs a rewrite. It's more of a eulogy than an article. Making assumptions about him being a hero or about the survivors of the holy grail honoring is not appropriate when writing a factual artice. [[User:Seektrue|Seektrue]] 11:46, 23 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:Agreed. The article is ''terrible'' and very un-encyclopedic. I started deleting the obvious POV stuff and cute asides and personal opinions but only a few paragraphs in it just becomes overwhelming. A ''thorough'' rewrite on the whole article is needed. Anyone interested in collaborating? [[User:Inoculatedcities|Inoculatedcities]] 01:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC) |
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==The Wehrmacht wasn't strong enough to win a war against Britain, but it was useful for propoganda reasons for Britain to portay tself as ''Little England'' standing alone against great odds, and there was certainly a propoganda advantage to the Nazis portraying Britain this way (in motivating Axis soldiers and citizenry). |
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This article seems also to have been written by someone with an inexpert grasp of English and needs to be re-written simply to be readable. |
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The main problem of this article is that it reads like it was written by Borat.
At the start of the article Beck's death is recorded as being on July 20th, 1944, the day of the plot to assassinate Hitler. However, at the end of the article, it claims that he commit suicide during the morning of the 21st. The 21st appears to be accurate, so I've changed the date of death at the top. --Solinox 20:36, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
Who says that the Wehrmacht was not strong enough to win a war against Britain? I'm fairly certain that's debatable.
Beck's Date of Death
I, too, noticed the discrepancies in the Date of Death for Beck. I searched through every source Google could throw at me, and the only one showing the July 21st date was Wikipedia. All others state it as July 20. I did find one that stated he was arrested very close to midnight on the 20th. I believe we would need to look at the time sequence involved: the time of day the assassination attempt on Hitler occurred; having to identify Beck as one of the perpetrators; find and arrest him, etc. Perhaps it was late in the day by the time all of this was accomplished. Perhaps, after his own unsuccesful attempts, he was actually shot by the guard after midnight. Enough speculation. I would like to know the source of the present Wikipedia article. I believe that's where the answer lies. What are your thoughts? Michael David 22:36, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Picture
The picture is of really bad quality and should be replaced. Search 10 secs at google and you´ll find a better one. This one remembers me to Don Corleone but not a general.
Biased
This whole article needs a rewrite. It's more of a eulogy than an article. Making assumptions about him being a hero or about the survivors of the holy grail honoring is not appropriate when writing a factual artice. Seektrue 11:46, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed. The article is terrible and very un-encyclopedic. I started deleting the obvious POV stuff and cute asides and personal opinions but only a few paragraphs in it just becomes overwhelming. A thorough rewrite on the whole article is needed. Anyone interested in collaborating? Inoculatedcities 01:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
This whole article needs a rewrite. It's more of a eulogy than an article. Making assumptions about him being a hero or about the survivors of the holy grail honoring is not appropriate when writing a factual artice. Seektrue 11:46, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed. The article is terrible and very un-encyclopedic. I started deleting the obvious POV stuff and cute asides and personal opinions but only a few paragraphs in it just becomes overwhelming. A thorough rewrite on the whole article is needed. Anyone interested in collaborating? Inoculatedcities 01:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
==The Wehrmacht wasn't strong enough to win a war against Britain, but it was useful for propoganda reasons for Britain to portay tself as Little England standing alone against great odds, and there was certainly a propoganda advantage to the Nazis portraying Britain this way (in motivating Axis soldiers and citizenry).
This article seems also to have been written by someone with an inexpert grasp of English and needs to be re-written simply to be readable.