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State highways in Warren County, New York

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Template:FAList of highways in Warren County, New York New York State Route 8 - U.S. Route 9 in New York - New York State Route 9L - New York State Route 9N - Template:FA New York State Route 28 - New York State Route 28N - Template:FA New York State Route 32 - New York State Route 149 - New York State Route 254 - New York State Route 418 - Prospect Mountain Veterans Memorial Highway

I worked my dang head off on this Featured topic for about 5-7 months. The articles are all at GA or FA and is probably one of my best works to date. As a little background, this is all the highways maintained by New York State Department of Transportation and have touring route shields. This topic has 12 articles, 3 of them FAs, and 9 GAs.Mitch32contribs 13:57, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Update - Can I have this postponed for a week. 911E is going to merged in for a new article on something else. If its possible this can be postponed, it would help.Mitch32 17:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
    • The easiest way to do this would be to withdraw this nom and nominate it again when it is ready. Also, if you plan to choose a new article for the topic, then there is clearly no strictly-defined topic. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:01, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Can you justify the recent merging of New York State Route 911E and New York State Route 912Q into New York State Route 32B and Interstate 87 respectively? rst20xx (talk) 22:39, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • 911E and 912Q shouldn't have existed in the first place per notability guidelines, the best thing to do was to merge them. This is my fault and I surely regret it. Oppose this FTC if you wish, just please, give me a chance - I don't wanna see 5-7 months of work go out the window.Mitch32 22:55, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
  • These are roads that are maintained by the state but are unsigned as such. They are primarily remnants of realignments of other state roads and their history is tied to those other roads. Merging is a perfectly appropriate course of action here. --Polaron | Talk 23:21, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, that's fine, though I'm not convinced you carried across as much information as you could have when you merged them in, in fact what you did was simply redirect them to the other articles. (And I don't see how any of this is sending 5-7 months' worth of work out the window :/) rst20xx (talk) 11:55, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What about U.S. Route 4 and U.S. Route 9W? Surely if we're to include some former routes, such as New York State Route 32B, we should include them all? (Well I guess the former should be included via the U.S. Route 4 in New York article, so that's one of the two dealt with) rst20xx (talk) 12:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We can, but you'd have to give me some time to work on it, along with a possible New York State Route 9M, but that along with New York State Route 9K (which is redundant to 9N), would be very hard to work an article for.
Addendum: We've decided after a discussion to remove 32B from the topic and just leave it for current routes, all fo which are GA or higher. This should be enough - (12 articles at 20% = 2.4 or 3 FAs).Mitch32 14:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Former routes probably don't need to be included at all. US 4, US 9, and NY 32B are already described in the history section of another current route. The roads used by the above former routes are still state highways although numbered differently now. --Polaron | Talk 14:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But doesn't this now mean 911E isn't dealt with by any of the articles currently in the topic? And I still don't think you've addressed my concerns that you just redirected 911E and 912Q, as opposed to merging them into other articles, anyway. (Though I'm contented with not including 4/9/32B and would say that that could be a possible future expansion should you choose to make it :P) rst20xx (talk) 14:56, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
911E is discussed in New York State Route 254. 912Q is really just a long exit ramp, which probably shouldn't have its own article anyway. In any case, I agree that the merging wasn't quite done as well as it should have been and should be fixed. However, these two reference routes aren't really "routes" in the sense that one is supposed to follow them to go someplace and is only tangentially related to the topic in that they are roads maintained by the state. --Polaron | Talk 15:24, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Seems to meet the criteria, at least for a few minutes until you decide to mess with it again. ;) Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 14:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]