Talk:Grand Theft Auto IV

release date?

i work at a video game store in australia and today we recieved the release date sheets and on there it said that gta iv was set to be released in australia on march 15. Can anyone else tell me if there is any truth to this?

There are loads of release dates floating around at the moment. Various different on-line games stores have dates ranging from Jan 08 to June 08. A number of the editors have decided that the only date that matters is a release date stated by either Rockstar or Take-Two. So far the only valid date we have is that Take Two stated that it would be released in their financial second quarter of 2008 which gives us a window of Feb to Apr. This is the most exact, reliable and (most importantly) trustworthy information that we have so far. - X201 15:56, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, and March 15 is equally away from the start of January and the end of April (So they wouldn't be too far away from the real release date).padddy5 19:57, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

That February-April release is a fake. on that page is written "Coming October 2007". And the press release was August 2. It's been almost a month and it ain't updated. Yoosq 07:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Almost all other other evidence suggests somewhere in that February-April range. We shouldn't change it just for one source, which probably has been forgotten or won't be updated until the final date is known. John Hayes^talk 08:24, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry. So now ROCKSTAR THEMSELVES state that it will be released in spring http://n4g.com/News-71922.aspx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Interpol007 (talk • contribs) 22:16, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Its official the release date for the ps3 is back at october. Says the official uk magazine. http://uk.playstation.com/games-media/release-calendar/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Interpol007 (talk • contribs) 22:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

No that means nothing, they just haven't updated. John Hayes^talk 22:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

amozon say that it is coming out april 25 for the uk. - chris 16 october 07

Best Buy and GameStop both have the release date as March 3, 2008. - joel 17 december 07 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.79.175.5 (talk) 22:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Source that.  ? Klptyzm ^{Chat wit' me § Contributions} ? 22:53, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I came across this today: [1] I wonder if we can use this source to reduce the timeframe for release. It seems relatively reliable to me. Though I wouldn't mind another source to back it up. John Hayes^talk 11:32, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Still financial Q2 according to Take Two press conference yesterday [2] - X201 (talk) 13:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. Though I assume the conference call refered to in the article I linked to is [3]. As I can't be bothered listening to 54 minutes of it I can't confirm what it says. So I can't be sure if they went into more detail and actually said Feb - March, or if the guy who wrote the article assumed that. Oh well. John Hayes^talk 14:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

PC version

The has been no references or announcements saying that there will be a PC version! Msman (talk) 13:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

We know. that's why it isn't in the article. - X201 (talk) 15:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

That actually seems noteworthy to me. It's a divergence from the norm for the series. Malefic 20:29, 10 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Malefic (talk • contribs)

Not really. Since the new generation of GTA games (GTA3 onwards) the PC version has only been announced after the Playstation version has been released, and the last two GTA games (Liberty City Stories, Vice City Stories) saw no PC release at all. 88.109.31.235 (talk) 22:35, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Box Art

Correct me if i am wrong, but aren't things like cover art supposed to be in low res? Right now the logo is pretty big... Perhaps it needs changing? ? Algonquin 12:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

That usually happens only when someone points it out and tags the image.. silly bureaucracy. --nlitement ^[talk] 15:44, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

He's still right though. John Hayes^talk 22:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Protection

I know that the vandalism doesn't seem to have been very heavy, at least not what I've seen but on a game this big we're bound to have idiots coming through here on a regular basis screwing it up. Especially as we get closer to a release date. Should this page not be protected from unregistered users?Darkwarriorblake (talk) 00:29, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

We already do have idiots coming through as any trawl through the history will show. One of the rules of protection is that it can't be used as a pre-emptive move. So it's a case of grin & revert it until we get a constant volume and then apply for protection. - X201 (talk) 09:01, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

You an never be too careful when it comes to protection. ~~`` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.156.66.110 (talk) 09:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Why the fuck were my edits reverted????!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!! Pippy Bongstockings (talk) 09:50, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Because it was poorly written, purely opinionated and featured a person's name which could almost be interpreted as a personal attack. If you want your contribution to remain then perhaps look at this and this. .:Alex:. 10:06, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi Pippy, could you please remember to be civil and assume good faith. Ranting and swearing at other editors gets you nowhere. mattbuck (talk) 11:45, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Pippy, you're going to get no where by swearing, take your mistake and know what you done wrong, making sure you don't mess up again.Liquinn (talk) 16:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Can someone please tell me who voices Niko Bellic if you know, please!!!!!!!!!!

Wikipedia isn't a forum. Plus, it hasn't been released yet.  ? Klptyzm ^{Chat wit' me § Contributions} ? 04:09, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey Klptyzm, I just wanted to know so we could add it to the article. You don't have to be so harsh. You have to stop being so obnoxious to people. I read you user page and you sounded like a cool guy because i also love pulp fiction, sin city, GTA, hitman and have an older brother but you are extremely obnoxious to everybody on the talk pages. get a grip, man. 19 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.124.58.112 (talk)

I answered your question. Simple as that. Also, don't deduce my character from discussions on this talkpage, especially when you don't fully understand the situation. How else do you expect someone to react when users, for one, ignore polices and do things that basically go against reason. You're acting like I called you a bad name or something, and if you were asking this information on behalf of the article, you should have reworded your question. The way you asked it makes it appear you were asking it merely for your benefit, i.e., using Wikipedia as a forum.  ? Klptyzm ^{Chat wit' me § Contributions} ? 22:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I totally agree with Klptyzm on this one. It sounded like you were discussing the subject not the article. And from now on if you have a personal issue with someone use their talk page. John Hayes^talk 22:44, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

sorry, I did overreact and i did ask the question like it was a forum. sorry. --69.124.58.112 (talk) 22:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Age rating?

The age rating would probably be a 18+, however there's no sources, shall we wait for the game to come out, and then add the information on the age rank to buy the game to the article? Liquinn (talk) 16:18, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

We should wait for sources, whenever they come out and however they come out. ♣ Klptyzm ^{Chat wit' me § Contributions} ♣ 18:22, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Its gonna be rated M ... obviously —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.144.112.197 (talk) 05:09, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Obviously how? do you have a source for "obviously"? John Hayes^talk 11:57, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

There's no source, but simple deductive reasoning and extrapolation will tell you beyond any reasonable doubt that the game will be rated M (17+) by the ESRB. All games in the Grand Theft Auto series have been rated M, and almost all retailers in the United States and Canada refuse to carry products rated AO (18+). Rockstar couldn't and wouldn't allow the game to achieve an AO rating (it would be corporate suicide to produce an undistributable game), and dropping the rating to T (13+) would be insulting to the GTA series' loyal adult fans. --Jtgibson (talk) 00:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

No source = not in article John Hayes^talk 09:37, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Agreed - X201 (talk) 11:44, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Release Date Confirmed

According to www.gtagaming.com it is april 22, 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.109.178 (talk) 02:51, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Where did they get it from? ♣ Klptyzm ^{Chat wit' me § Contributions} ♣ 03:06, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

It's still not confirmed, here's the quote they based that from:

"Games industry publication MCV has the scoop today on Grand Theft Auto IV's release date, claiming that the title will go on sale in the final week of April 2008. Citing sources "close to the game's publisher" they say that the game will go on sale in the United Kingdom on April 25th.

This appears to follow recent trends for Grand Theft Auto release dates, which have almost always been pushed back to be in the final week of Take 2 Interactive's fiscal quarters. Yesterday, the company said that the game would go on sale some time in its second fiscal quarter of 2008, which ends on April 30th.

A UK release date of April 25th would indicate that the game would release just prior to this in North America, with Tuesday April 22nd most likely. As usual though, Rockstar Games said that it does not comment on "rumours and speculation". 203.211.126.222 (talk) 04:29, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

King Ring = King of the Ring

This may sound pedantic, but could somebody registered change Seryoga's song's translation for Король ринга from 'King Ring' to 'King of the ring' please? Ринга is the Accusative form of ринг and not nominative, so whilst translation between Russian-English will never be one hundred percent, 'King of the Ring' is a lot closer and less silly sounding then 'King Ring'. I'd do it myself, but I'm not a registered user, and don't intend to become one. Thanks if someone could do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.245.125.99 (talk) 10:24, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

No, you may very well be correct, but the only source on that statement says it is called 'King Ring'. If you can provide a source for 'King of the ring' then it can be considered. John Hayes^talk 09:29, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

That's true, if it was "king ring" to begin with, it would be "ринг королей". --nlitement ^[talk] 14:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

It could of course be that it was released in English language countries with a slightly different title. Either way we need a source to change it. John Hayes^talk 13:52, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I'd have to agree with John here for the most part. So far everything I've seen with the English name has called it King Ring, including Rockstar in an interview with IGN. OptimumPx (talk) 17:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I wouldnt suppose to change it into 'King of the ring', it's right. Seryoga owns a label called KingRing, it maybe refers to that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.171.92.131 (talk) 19:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

From the original poster: Yeah I'm a little crummy with this setup, so I don't know if this is the correct way to go about replying to... myself. Quite simply, Король Ринга would (by all means it at least 'should') mean King of the Ring, so I don't think it refers to his label as such. I had a look at Seryoga's lyrics, he uses two English words... King Ring :D . I have a feeling all this confusion stems from Seryoga's own mistranslation. Unless he just thought King Ring sounded so cool :P . I have a feeling his label King Ring as you describe is the same mistranslation... pfft, even the gals in T.A.T.u can speak some English :D . No, you are correct to leave it, I suggested the change based on the language itself, not a Slavic-Eminem's version of things :) Aw well, at least some of you learnt a bit of Russian from it all. By the way, I should have said 'Genitive case' before, not 'accusative case'... if anyone cares :P —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.145.201 (talk) 12:41, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Fourth Trailer Confirmed

A spokesperson for Rockstar Games has confirmed to German gaming site Cynamite that a fourth Grand Theft Auto IV trailer will be released prior to the game appearing on store shelves. According to the unnamed employee, the trailer retains the style of the previous three in that it is movie-like and contains no direct gameplay footage.

The site makes no specific mention of any release date for the trailer.

Source: Cynamite.de (Via Forums) www.gtagaming.com/ www.planetgrandtheftauto.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.109.178 (talk) 19:30, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't really call it confirmed until Rockstar comes out and announces that there will be a 3rd trailer. Just because one site claims that Rockstar told them something doesn't make it so. OptimumPx (talk) 20:53, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

And the "unnamed employee" thing makes it suspect enough. These aren't national secrets, so why would the employee hide his name? ♣ Klptyzm ^{Chat wit' me § Contributions} ♣ 22:05, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

1080p resolution?

The article states that the trailers were done on an XBox360 in 720p resolution, but I have seen rumours (e.g. this one) in some forums that the PS3 version will be in "true" 1080p resolution. Is there a verifiable source confirming what resolution / frame rate the final game will be (both 360 and PS3)? Cheers, Onesecondglance (talk) 11:56, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

That I've seen....no. The only resolution that's been confirmed at this point is the 720p they used for the trailers. OptimumPx (talk) 17:56, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

PC version

Anyone knows if rockstar games is gonna release a pc version? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.165.22.162 (talk) 17:33, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

No. ♣ Klptyzm ^{Chat wit' me § Contributions} ♣ 17:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

wrong price for uk special edition

uk special edition is priced at 59.99 it is 69.99 even the source linked to it says that it is wrong can some one please change it. thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.105.186.184 (talk) 12:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

If you go as far as mentioning it on a discussion page, why don't you CHANGE IT yourself? --nlitement ^[talk] 15:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

The page is semi protected so anon IPs can't edit it. ●BillPP ^{(talk|contribs)} 15:23, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I've removed the prices. WP:NOT states "Wikipedia is not a price guide to be used to compare the prices of competing products, or the prices of a single product across different countries or regions."
I've also removed "limited" from the start of the sentence as there was no citation to support it.- X201 (talk) 15:56, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hate to point it out butone all this needed was for someone to change the price and 2 the guy that responded first really needs to work on his attidue her you have someone who is trying to make a contribution to wikipedia being lectured about something. all it needed was a meantion to get about about being semi editable and you give the person a going over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kobol (talk • contribs) 16:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

My removal of the info wasn't aimed at the original poster in any way, shape or form. - X201 (talk) 19:26, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

PS2 version

After a few months and/or years, will there be GTAIV on PS2?