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Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.

For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:

  1. Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
  2. Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open for at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.

Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.

When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.


Scope

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CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.

Current discussions

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Discussions awaiting closure

See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.


How to use CfD

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Nomination procedure

Twinkle

You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.

Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, see § MassCFD.

MassCFD

You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massCFD to automatically make mass nominations.

Manual nominations

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Preliminary steps.

Before nominating a category:

In the following special cases:

For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style.

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Edit the category.

Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.

Otherwise, if nominating a single category:
If nominating a group of related categories, use a bundled nomination:
  • For deleting, use {{subst:Cfd|CfD section name}}
  • For merging, use {{subst:Cfm|Other category|CfD section name}}
    • For merging to two categories, use {{subst:Cfm-double|Other category 1|Other category 2|CfD section name}}
  • For renaming, use {{subst:Cfr|Proposed name|CfD section name}}
  • For splitting, use {{subst:Cfs|Proposed name 1|Proposed name 2|CfD section name}}
  • For converting the category into a list, {{subst:Cfl|Proposed name|CfD section name}}
  • For other options (containerization, etc.), use {{subst:Cfd|type=nature of proposed discussion|CfD section name}} (see Template:Cfd/doc#Optional parameter)
  • Include "CfD", "CfM", "CfR", "CfS" or "CfL" in the edit summary, and do not mark the edit as minor. Preview before saving.
  • To add the template for previous nomination days, use the "full" version of the template by appending "full" to the template name, i.e. {{cfd full}}, {{cfm full}}, {{cfr full}}, {{cfs full}} and {{cfl full}}. Use the |day=, |month= and |year= parameters to make the banner link to the correct CfD page.
  • Consider adding {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2024 May 21|CfD section name}} ~~~~ to the talk page of the category's creator.
  • For details about these templates, see each template's documentation.
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Create the CFD section.

Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries.

Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the text= parameter, omit the Category: prefix and do not use wikilinks, as the template takes care of this.

If nominating a single category:
  • For deleting, use {{subst:Cfd2|Obsolete category|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~}}
  • For merging, use {{subst:Cfm2|Origin category|Destination category|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed merge. ~~~~}}
    • For merging to two categories, use {{subst:Cfm2|Origin category|Destination category 1|target2=Destination category 2|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed merge. ~~~~}}
  • For renaming, use {{subst:Cfr2|Current category|Proposed name|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed rename. ~~~~}}
  • For splitting, use {{subst:Cfs2|Current category|Proposed category 1|Proposed category 2|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed split. ~~~~}}
  • For converting the category into a list, use {{subst:Cfc2|Current category|Proposed article|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed conversion. ~~~~}}
  • For other options (containerization, etc.), use {{subst:Cfd2|Current category|type=other type|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed conversion. ~~~~}}
For a bundled nomination, use one of the standard templates to build the "Cfd section name" for the first nominated category. After saving that, the second and subsequent nominations must be inserted manually, as follows:
==== Cfd section name ====
* 1st category
* 2nd category [Make clear whether you propose deletion, merging or renaming]
* Your reason for nominating the categories, and signature.
  • If a bundled nomination is too long, consider using {{hidden}} to hide some of the nominated categories.
  • In your reason, use links if mentioning articles or categories. To link to a category, use the colon trick by adding a colon (:) to the beginning of the link, e.g. [[:Category:Foo]].
  • Preview before saving to check that your nomination is formatted correctly, and remember to include your signature at the end of the nomination.

Stub types

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Preliminary steps.

In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:

  • Read and understand guidance for creating stub types and stub type naming conventions.
  • Review the list of existing stub types—be advised, this list may not be comprehensive.
  • If you wish to:
    • Create a new stub type—follow the procedure for proposing new stub types.
    • Delete, merge or rename a stub category only, without deleting or renaming the associated stub template—follow the instructions above this section.
    • Delete or rename a stub template—continue to section II.
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Edit the template.

Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.

  • For deletion, use {{subst:Sfd-t|Section name}}
  • For renaming, use {{subst:Sfr-t|Proposed name|Section name}}
  • Please include "SFD" or "SFR" in the edit summary, and don't mark the edit as minor. Preview before saving.
  • Consider notifying the template's creator on their talk page. To find the contributor, check the page history of the stub template.
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Create the CFD section.

Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries.

Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):

  • For deletion, use {{subst:sfd-t2|TemplateName|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~}}
  • For renaming, use {{subst:sfr-t2|TemplateOldName|TemplateNewName|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~}}
  • In your rationale, mention how many articles currently use the template to help other editors. When linking to a category in your rationale, always add a colon (:) to the beginning of the link, like [[:Category:Foo]]. This makes a category link that can be seen on the page, and avoids putting this page into the category you are nominating.
  • Preview before saving to check that your nomination is formatted correctly, and remember to include your signature at the end of the nomination.

Notifying interested projects and editors

In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.

Notifying related WikiProjects

WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2024 May 21|CfD section name}} ~~~~ or write a personalized message.

Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.

Notifying substantial contributors to the category

While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}} to inform the category's creator and all other editors.

Notifying other interested editors

It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}} for this.

Closing procedure

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After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.

Redirecting categories

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"WP:CAT-R" redirects here. For the guideline on categorizing redirects, see Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects.
For an essay on this topic, see WP:Category redirects that should be kept.

In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can create a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}} to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.

In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.

A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.

Speedy renaming and merging

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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.

  1. Determine which speedy criterion applies
  2. Tag category page with {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}} or {{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
  3. List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page

Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.

Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.

Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.

To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:

  • Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~

You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.

Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.

If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.

Speedy criteria

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The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:

C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes

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  • Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
  • Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
  • Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.

C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices

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C2C: Consistency with established category tree names

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Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names

  • This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
  • This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
  • This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).

C2D: Consistency with main article's name

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  • Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
  • This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
    • unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
    • uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
  • This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
  • Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.

C2E: Author request

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  • This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
  • The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.

C2F: One eponymous page

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  • This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{subst:cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).

Admin instructions

When handling the listings:

  1. Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
  2. With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
  3. Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.

If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.

Applying speedy criteria in full discussions

  • A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
    • The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
    • No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
  • If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.

Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here

If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.

If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.

Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list: 

* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use: 

* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use: 

* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}

A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 12:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 82 open requests (refresh).

Current requests

Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).

  • @Smasongarrison: unfortunately the entire 19th-century architecture by country tree is by 21st-century countries and so are the subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:34, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    gotcha! Move to full? Mason (talk) 12:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Smasongarrison: moving it to full will be a brave act. Be ready for opposition, other editors will argue that buildings are currently in Turkey. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:15, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Ugh, I don't have the bandwidth for that right now. I'm fine with this becoming stale. Mason (talk) 22:25, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Opposed requests

  • Oppose, not all articles in the category are about clergy. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Move to full? Mason (talk) 12:35, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Smasongarrison: fair enough, but I would advocate "religious leaders" rather than "clergy" per the other parent category. Religious leaders is broader than clergy. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I'd be fine with religious leaders. Mason (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On hold pending other discussion

  • None currently

Moved to full discussion

  • Oppose, this is a category of princes, not so much of rebellions. Perhaps split. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe. Move to full then I guess? NLeeuw (talk) 22:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PLEASE NOTE: I have moved all of the following Categories here pending adequate confirmation of their eligibility under C2C. I made a serious effort to look for that, but was unable to find such confirmation. There is a massive jumbled welter of Categories in this realm, with no prevailing pattern that I can discern. Anomalous+0 (talk) 07:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose for now to all by ethnic or national origin nominations. 46.229.243.187 (talk) 08:35, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Your opposition needs to have a reason. Mason (talk) 13:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The existing wording sounds more natural and is easier to understand. 46.229.243.187 (talk) 14:34, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Moved to full discussion:
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_March_30#Category:English_people_by_ethnic_or_national_origin
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_9#Category:Swedish_politicians_by_ethnic_or_national_origin
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_27#British_people_by_descent
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_6#Actors_by_ethnicity
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_7#People_from_British_Overseas_Territories_and_Crown_Dependencies_by_ethnic_or_national_origin
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_8#People_from_Overseas_France_by_ethnic_or_national_origin
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_9#Caribbean_people_by_descent
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_17#Category:Romanian_people_by_ethnic_or_national_origin_and_occupation
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_17#Category:Northern_Mariana_Islands_people_by_ethnic_or_national_origin
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_17#Category:East_German_people_by_ethnic_or_national_origin
Marcocapelle (talk) 06:53, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Except in the United States, the "by descent" format seems to be standard everywhere. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:16, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ready for deletion

Check Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion for out of process deletions. In some cases, these will need to be nominated for discussion and the editor who emptied the category informed that they should follow the WP:CFD process.

Once the renaming has been completed, copy and paste the listing to the Ready for deletion section of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual.

Empty categories awaiting deletion

The categories listed below have been identified as empty using {{db-catempty}}, and will be speedily deleted after 7 days unless populated. (Note: Due to technical limitations, all contents of the category may not be displayed; view the category directly to see all contents.)

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Speedy nominations

  • Place legitimate candidates for speedy deletion, merging, or renaming (see Wikipedia:Category deletion policy/Speedy criteria) here instead of under a date heading.
  • If a nomination listed here is not a clear case for speedy, re-list it under the current date.

Category:User:Dylan620

Category:Dylan620 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Individual user category, which have an extensive history of deletion. Speedy delete. VegaDark (talk) 04:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Oak Hills High School

Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Oak Hills High School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

High school alma mater cat, which have an extensive history of deletion. Speedy delete. VegaDark (talk) 04:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: The Bush School

Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: The Bush School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

High school alma mater cat, which have an extensive history of deletion. Speedy delete. VegaDark (talk) 04:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: St. Paul's School (Concord, New Hampshire)

Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: St. Paul's School (Concord, New Hampshire) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

High school alma mater cat, which have an extensive history of deletion. Speedy delete. VegaDark (talk) 04:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: The Southport School

Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: The Southport School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

High school alma mater cat, which have an extensive history of deletion. Speedy delete. VegaDark (talk) 04:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:User:Elena85

Category:Elena85 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Ho-hum, another individual user cat. Speedy delete. VegaDark (talk) 05:57, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I asked this about a month ago, but I will repeat it: The sandbox category is Category:X1. Could an administrator please mention the test category Category:X1 at Template:Please leave this line alone (sandbox heading) under "See also"? (This template appears at the Wikipedia:Sandbox.) — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 19:54, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have added a mention of the category sandbox as requested. Hiding T 12:01, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:User:Mrchris-County Kilkenny articles beta

Category:Mrchris-County Kilkenny articles beta (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

See above. Currently speedyable as C1, but I'd prefer a deletion here to bar recreation. Speedy delete. VegaDark (talk) 05:57, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New nominations by date

  • Please list new nominations at the top of the list for today's date.

October 11

Category:Users who urged User:68.39.174.238 to get a new account

Category:Users who urged User:68.39.174.238 to get a new account (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Improper naming convention at best, absolutely useless at worst. Does not help Wikipedia to group these users. VegaDark (talk) 04:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians who ride British motorcycles

Category:Wikipedians who ride British motorcycles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Huh? Is this supposed to be a joke? The category description says "...and contribute to the Wikiproject Motorcycling". Category:WikiProject Motorcycling members already exists. Similar precedent to delete here. Useless category. VegaDark (talk) 04:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as nom. VegaDark (talk) 04:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Give it time. I can understand why it may seem useless to someone in Florida but it's very important to me to do my best to sort out all the stubs and poorly researched articles on British motorcycles. I was hoping to link up with anyone out there who cares. The alternative category you suggest is the motorcycling project which is for anything on two (or three) wheels so far too general. Wikipedia is about collaborative working, so let's have a positive suggestion rather than just recommending to yourself that it is best to delete? Thruxton (talk) 06:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More racing categories

Category:Wikipedians who like Frank Kimmel (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Wikipedians who like Justin Allgaier (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Wikipedians who like Scott Speed (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
and the parent category, Category:Wikipedians who support the ARCA RE/MAX Series (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

First 3 are "Wikipedians by individual" categories, which have an extensive history of deletion here, and a near-identical precedent set recently here. The parent category is a support/oppose category, which have an extensive history of deletion here. VegaDark (talk) 04:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

October 4

Category:Wikipedians who like π

Category:Wikipedians who like π (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Useless category. Does not benefit encyclopedia to categorize these users. VegaDark (talk) 05:57, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians who like Special Pages

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:36, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Wikipedians who like Special Pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Useless category. Does not benefit encyclopedia to categorize these users. Note that if deleted, the parent category will be empty and hence, speedyable. VegaDark (talk) 05:57, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as nom. VegaDark (talk) 05:57, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. I imagine most people like special pages. - Icewedge (talk) 07:10, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This is a new category like every other category. It has to grow like every other category. I have a userbox which will add your userpage to the category, so when the userbox goes around, the category will fill up. Wait a month, then if nothing happens to the category, reopen this discussion. Techman224 (talk) 14:29, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Added note, this category isn't supposed to be used on articles, it's designed to be used on userpages, so it tells users, just like every other "Wikipedian's" category, it just hasn't gone around yet. Techman224 (talk) 14:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Notice I'm renaming the Category to Category:Wikipedians who like Special Pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and speedy deleting it, and adding the new category to Category:Wikipedians by Mediawiki software (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Techman224 (talk) 14:56, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've made the name change for this nom. VegaDark (talk) 16:26, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete — doesn't facilitate collaboration. When would this be necessary? "I really need to find another user who likes Special Pages to help me out here." — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 19:57, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. What's next, Wikipedians who like Wikipedia? Hiding T 12:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Unless you can find a user you hates Special Pages. CWii(Talk|Contribs) 04:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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October 1

Category:Patriotic user templates

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The result of the discussion was: wrong venue. Kbdank71 17:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Patriotic user templates to either Category:Nationality user templates or Category:Location user templates
Nominator's rationale: The nominated category duplicates "Nationality user templates" and "Location user templates". There is currently only one userbox in the nominated category. — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 17:02, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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September 29

Category:User es-spa

Propose merging Category:User es-spa to Category:User es
Nominator's rationale: These are categories for speakers of Castilian, known in most places and most contexts simply as Spanish. While I am aware that a technical distinction is drawn between castellano (Castilian) and español (Spanish) in some contexts, this distinction is not significant in the context of "facilitating coordination and collaboration between users for the improvement and development of the encyclopedia" (see Wikipedia:User categories). Note that ISO 639-3 makes no distinction between "Castilian Spanish" and "Spanish", offering the two-letter identifier "es" and the three-letter identifier "spa" as equivalents. At minimum, the subcategories should be upmerged per precedent (see here, here, here, and here). –Black Falcon (Talk) 06:20, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~~~~

  • Comments (Some hopefully helpful links.) - Noting that Castilian language currently redirects to Spanish language (and has since 2004), and Castilian notes that the language is Spanish dialect. Spanish dialects and varieties is an interesting read on the subject, and (finally) Castilian Spanish which notes: "The Spanish language term castellano (Castilian) may refer to the Spanish language as a whole, to the dialects spoken in central and northern Spain or to the Middle Ages language which was a predecessor to modern Spanish. Which this may or may not support. See also Languages of Spain. - jc37 15:10, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Leave As-Is- Please note- that there are indeed some substantial differences between varieties of Spanish/Castilian spoken in Spain vs. Latin America. The pronunciation is vastly different, the vocabulary is quite varied, and even the grammar follows slightly different rules. And, as a native speaker of CASTILIAN- (from the region of Castile), I feel that if categories exist to identify speakers of Mexican or Chilean Spanish, then there should also be a category identifying speakers of the Castilian dialect. This instance refers to the dialect, not another name for the same language. If, however, you feel that it must be merged, then in that case all the other dialects should just be merged into one category for Spanish. WJRod2003 (talk) 03:38, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 15

Category:User fr-qc

Category:User fr-qc - Template:Lc1
Note: This nomination also includes Category:User fr-qc-1, Category:User fr-qc-2, Category:User fr-qc-3, Category:User fr-qc-4, Category:User fr-qc-5 and Category:User fr-qc-N.
Nominator's rationale: These categories are for speakers of Quebec French, the variety of French that is spoken in Quebec. Quebec French is not an ISO-recognised language, and "fr-qc" is a made-up combination. There is a fairly strong precedent (see here) for deleting regional dialect categories; the few discussions that did not result in a "delete" outcome were for national dialect categories. At minimum, the subcategories should be upmerged per precedent (see 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6); we currently have seven categories for c. 15 users.
  • Delete all as nominator, or at least upmerge the subcategories. –Black Falcon (Talk) 22:06, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose deletion [Category:User fr-qc] category, neither [Category:User es-cl]. I know the main French Quebec dialect too well, for it is my mother tongue. (I know the peculiar Chilean dialect as well.) It is also the mother tongue & daily language of another approximately 5.5 to 6 million Quebecers, and since this dialect has its very own spelling & varying loose syntax (compared to French from France), i therefore strongly suggest that this category be validated & permanently preserved in the non-ISO languages/dialects directory.
    Socio-historic background: Michel Tremblay "broke the ice" from the French-speaking elite's disdain with the common language of the vast majority of the Quebec population, with his play "Les Belles-Soeurs" (written in 1965 & first performed in 1968 in Quebec French). Since then, many underground & mainstream Quebec authors have been writing their novels/plays in Quebec French (AKA "joual", Quebec's slang term for this dialect, which derives from French "cheval" and aims to illustrate how different from French from France this dialect is). Its use has historically been exclusively to the working-class segment of society, but nowadays it is part of Quebec's mainstream culture, all social classes included.
    Dialect specifics: it is merely as different from French from France as Catalan is different from Spanish, if not more. Tourists/immigrants from France or other International French-speaking origins typically do not understand a great deal of what Quebecers are saying, while Quebecers generally have an easier time understanding French from elsewhere. This could be explained by the fact our education is done in International French, as well as French or dubbed movies & television series. For outsiders, many variants (distinct regional pronounciation) of this dialect may sound like "gibberish", as a lot of syllables are systematically eliminated in order to shorten sentences. In some areas, the "j" sound is pronounced like in Spanish, thus "manger" may sound like "mah-hey" (with a slightly nasal-sounding pronounciation).
    Examples (pronounced & written differences):
    "Je suis" (French from France) becomes "Chus" (Quebec French);
    "Je suis allé à la maison" > "Ch't'allé 'à meson";
    "Il fait froid" > "'Fa frette";
    "Elle a déguerpi tout à l'heure" > "'A sacré l'camp talleure";
    "Je vais à la salle de bain" > "J'm'en vas 'à bécosse" ("bécosse" is derived from American English "back house", a small building behind a house which used to house a toilet).
    Userboxes: one reason why there may be so few users here on WP registered with "fr-qc" is that the category seems not to be "officially" listed in the directory of non-ISO language/dialects userboxes. (Shall a favorable decision be made to keep it, then it sould be added, and users may be more numerous to register, unless they can't understand the unilingual English WP syntax pages?) It was a pure coincidence that i found it right here on my very first day as a Wikipedian! I was reading about tutorials and clicked a link to ongoing discussions. I had previously spent about 1/2 hour searching for it & had given up, hopeless. --Francsois (talk) 06:58, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Francsois , regarding your point that non-Quebecois speakers of French do not understand a lot of what Quebecois say—the same could be said for regional variants of English. Many Canadians/Americans find it difficult to understand someone from Ireland, England, Scotland, Australia, New Zealand, etc., because of their accent and their idioms. However, the category shouldn't be deleted because it doesn't have an ISO code, but because it doesn't facilitate collaboration. The category is there in case one editor wants to find another who understands the French language—it isn't too important if they're from Quebec, France, Haiti, or the Congo. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 07:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Twas Now, i agree with your relevant point about people who understand International French (slightly different from French from France) needing a way to find each other on WP. I do assume that most people adding the "fr-qc" userbox will most likely also add the "fr" userbox, since they also understand International French, and use it for writing/editing on WP. However, if this category was to be removed we would not easily be able to find other editors who understand Quebec French. This would also be detrimental, for instance, to people speaking/writing International French needing some translation while writing articles about Quebec and its litterature/folklore/geography/etc., which in some instances has vocabulary, expressions and names more closely related to Basque, Breton, Catalan, English, Norman and Occitan than Modern International French!
    To add substance to my other point below, i think it should not be people who are "less knowledgeable" to a given dialect's uniqueness or similarities who should make the decision to delete the category. Thus, personally not knowing enough about the uniqueness or similarities between various English dialects, i shouldn't be the one making any such decision. In this case, i believe this should be debated among Francophones and/or users knowing the specificities of International French in comparison to Quebec French.
    Idea/suggestion: perhaps there should be an explicit way to invite users/contributors to add the userboxes of the basic languages they understand, speak and write, on top of any regional dialects to which they might identify more closely? (This could be added to the directives on the use of userboxes in the Language/Babel directory.) --Francsois (talk) 19:20, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Another global suggestion is that Syops/active Wikipedians should try to have a discussion with at least some "critical mass" of users of any given dialect (if possible a minimum of 4-5 active users), before making any irreversible decision. Are there any complementary voting/surveying features on WP? (I mean, complementary to discussions.) --Francsois (talk) 06:58, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • No outcome reached here is irreversible, as long as there is consensus to reverse it. If a particular action is determined to have been made in error, any changes can be undone. This is especially easy in the case of these categories because they are template-populated, so one would only need to undo changes made to a handful of templates. –Black Falcon (Talk) 17:00, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment — What about everything in Category:Wikipedians by regional dialect? — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 04:16, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. VegaDark (talk) 17:55, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep (perhaps rename) - One might argue that this is roughly equivalent to fr-ca (See Quebec French), which may make this a national dialect. If kept or renamed, UpMerge the subcats. - jc37 02:46, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as national dialect (Quebec being officially recognized as a nation within Canada). — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 06:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep distinctive and recognizable dialect, of frequent relevance to the project.DGG (talk) 02:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar recipients

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete all. Kbdank71 20:01, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:WikiProject Mississippi Barnstar Recipients - Template:Lc1
Category:Wikiproject Ohio Barnstar Recipients - Template:Lc1
Category:Missouri Barnstar of Merit Recipients - Template:Lc1
Category:WikiProject Harry Potter Award Recipients (third class) - Template:Lc1
Category:WikiProject Harry Potter Award Recipients (second class) - Template:Lc1
Category:The IC Star Recipients - Template:Lc1 - added 21:44, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: Delete - such categories are routinely deleted. See this partial list of such deletions. There is also Category:The IC Star Recipients but it is currenly listed for speedy rename. I've suggested bringing it here but did not feel it appropriate for me to list it. Otto4711 (talk) 21:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since UCFD has its own "Speedy nominations" section, this belongs here even as a speedy renaming nomination. However, since the proposed destination name goes against the guidance that all user categories should include either "Wikipedian" or "User" in the title, and since there is not a single exception to the precedent to delete these types of award categories, I think it's safe to add the IC Star category. –Black Falcon (Talk) 21:44, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as unhelpful categorization. Also delete Category:The IC Star Recipients. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 21:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per nom, precedent. Any user or project that wishes to maintain a list of award recipients for whatever reason should do so as a list, in a section of a project or user page or on the barnstar's talk page. –Black Falcon (Talk) 21:44, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all - per nom, precedent, comments, etc. - jc37 21:47, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all it has been decided over and over again that Wiki awards do not merit there own categories. They serve no benefit really as the awards have no set parameters for recipients and so the category is little more that a random selection of Wikipedians. - Icewedge (talk) 23:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep all Just because such cats have been deleted before, doesn't mean they can't eventually not be deleted. Many of the project awards do have set parameters for recipients. The cats serve as an easy house-keeping method as opposed to a manual entry list within the project itself. WikiProjects themselves are valid inclusions in Wikipedia and so should be their related cats/pages/subpages - ✰ALLST☆R✰ echo 13:14, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per nom. Anybody can create their own wikipedia award, so to allow categories for these would leave the door open for potentially infinite categories. VegaDark (talk) 17:55, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep any with an actual criteria per Allstar and individually re-evaluate. I have no opinion on the others. -- Ned Scott 04:01, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedian poets

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:


Many valid points.
In the end, no consensus
Defaulting to keep. (Yup, Haiku. I went there.) Wizardman 15:30, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedian poets

Most anyone can write doggerel verse, some a bit better, and some a bit worse.

I could see keeping if this was restricted to those of a profession, but it's rather been utilsed for those of this particular obsession, and when obsession cannot be discerned from profession, it should be deleted, at the closer's discretion. - jc37 21:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as nominator. - jc37 21:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Annotated ode to consensual deletion debates:

The bit is either on or off.
Distinctions, made, can soon be unmade;
or with resonant voices be heard awhile.
But things pass; small collisions cease,
the bit, once on, is felt off.
Authority by license granted
determines
my purposeful omission. Hiding T 10:32, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I regret not discerning in my reading,
(my lack of certainity, conceding)
your opinion in this proceeding. - jc37 02:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For those who see these deathly deeds, awash

with anxiety for those who sweep;

the choice is clear for all to hear.

My mark is made, I choose to Keep.

Thor Malmjursson (talk) 15:02, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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