Template talk:Talk header

what is the purpose of the Talkheader?

Why would one put it on a talk page? Why would one NOT put it on a talk page? Why not just automatically have it displayed on all talk pages? Kingturtle (talk) 22:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

The header gives basic information to new users, like how to sign and the guidelines. I remember an old discussion about why the template should not be put in all talk pages (not all pages need them, just articles in the main space, and only those that may attract a good number of users). And the fact that MediaWiki:Talkpagetext exists is not enough, apparently, to deprecate this template. Check the deletion discussions linked above to read why people think this template is necessary. -- ReyBrujo (talk) 03:44, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

There has been discussion about doing that, perhaps putting it inside a css block so that experienced editors can turn it off. I know this template really annoys a lot of established users - myself included - so it's a shame that nothing happened. On Wikipedia, things can move extraordinarily quickly (wikidrama) or extraordinarily slowly (inertia, failure to get consensus etc). C'est la vie. My guess is this template won't be around forever....

As for why put it on a talk page and why not, please see the instructions. I think it's very clear that the template should not be added as a default and should only be added when undesirable talk page activity demonstrates that it's needed. --kingboyk (talk) 13:19, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk-Header on Meta-wiki user talkpage

Is it permitted for the talkheader code to be placed on my wikimedia "meta-wiki" user talkpage which would say this, the links i've changed because of it being on the wikimedia site and not wikipedia, but am i allowed to have it on, if so could you leave a message on my user talk via this Link which will lead to my userpage on meta-wiki.SKYNET X7000 (talk) 15:23, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[template code removed]

The {{talkheader}} template, like everything else on Wikipedia, may be copied and used however you like, provided you comply with the terms of the GFDL. Reusing Wikipedia content has details. • I had to remove your template code from this page, as there was an unclosed element (I couldn't find which) that was grabbing everything else after it (like my comment, here. You can retrieve the code from the page history (click edit to get the source; just don't save). —DragonHawk (talk|hist) 20:29, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. SKYNET X7000 (talk) 15:31, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

much less anything else

On the draft, Jake the Editor Man changed "This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject" to "This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject, much less anything else". While I agree with the sentiment, I believe past discussion (here, and at the TfDs) shows a clear consensus for keeping this template as concise as possible, and that addition would make that line long enough to almost always wrap. • I'm also not sure how productive it really would be to put it in, though that's just a comment, not an objection. • If people think I'm off-base in my interpretation of consensus, by all means add it to the draft again, and/or comment here. Thanks! —DragonHawk (talk|hist) 02:36, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Please indent replies

Having been looking for a template to post on a messy article talk page frequented by loads of what I assume are IP newbies it's good to find this template. However it's missing a comment about indenting replies, such as Please indent replies using a colon - : Your reply ~~~~ -- John (Daytona2 · Talk · Contribs) 20:25, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmmmm. I know where you're coming from on that. I've toying around with the draft right now with some ideas for it. My only concern is that there has been a lot of previous desire to keep this template concise and brief, i.e., covering only the bare minimum and letting links do the rest. I'm not sure where indentation falls in that consensus. I suspect it makes the template too wordy. Information overload is a concern. —DragonHawk (talk|hist) 20:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Suggesting move of "not a forum" message

If you take a look at the draft page, I move the "not a forum" line inside the box, where a free line was already available. This way it doesn't heighten the box at all. Please check it out. Note that this line doesn't normally appear anywhere but on article talk pages, so I also added the text explicitly so it would appear on the draft page. Take a look at an article talk page (like Talk:I Am Legend (film) to see how it normally appears right now -- notice the extra line that currently gets created in the topmost section of the template. This change eliminates that extra line. Equazcion •✗/C • 09:26, 1 Feb 2008 (UTC)